No Aussies In British Speedway 2018

[britmet]

 

Warsaw 274.1m, Horsens 272m, Cardiff 272m, Malilla 305m, Gorzow 329m, Teterow 314m, Stockholm 272m, Torun 325m, Melbourne 346m

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Half of those are not real tracks;

- Czestochowa 402yds, Rybnik 390yds, Wroclaw 423yds, Grudziadz414yds. . . . .. .

[False dawn]

 

 

Yes keep going

You can ride in the British Championships but don't have the temerity to imagine you're going to Cardiff if you win.

[Perton Wolf]

If people are genuinely worried about the supposed (negative) influence that Australians are having on British Speedway then the best way to counter balance that is to get more Swedes, Poles and Danes to ride over here so you're not overly reliant on one nationality of rider.

[False dawn]

......so you're not overly reliant on one nationality of rider.

 

As in English (sorry British) you mean?

[robinsgirl]

Get rid of those Aussies! They had the audacity to be selected as they only nationality in heat 15 of our Premiership .

[BobC]

Not read the whole thread, but surely there is one very simple solution.

 

Anyone who needs a visa, MUST sign to say that the British club that sponsors them, will be their priority over any other fixtures, worldwide. Dont sign, no visa. Before anyone says about restrictive trade, etc, Poland do it, so why cant we?

[Ghostwalker]

Not read the whole thread, but surely there is one very simple solution.

 

Anyone who needs a visa, MUST sign to say that the British club that sponsors them, will be their priority over any other fixtures, worldwide. Dont sign, no visa. Before anyone says about restrictive trade, etc, Poland do it, so why cant we?

 

Priorities isn't always for the rider to decide for themselves. AFAIK there are international rules that says which kind of meetings that has priority.

Scheduled meetings have priority over postponed meetings and national and international championship meetings have an even higher priority.

 

[Perton Wolf]

 

Priorities isn't always for the rider to decide for themselves. AFAIK there are international rules that says which kind of meetings that has priority.

Scheduled meetings have priority over postponed meetings and national and international championship meetings have an even higher priority.

 

 

I think the poster was referring to priority for British meetings when they clash with others and they are on the same footing in terms of international priority. Jack Holder should've rode for PBoro for example, not in Poland.

[RebelDan]

Banning Aussies on mass is frankly ridiculous. There have been a few well documented issues with certain Aussie riders but don't tarnish them all with the same brush. I agree if their not committed they shouldn't be here, but you can say that about any individual regardless of their nationality.

 

In the main, Aussie riders have ensured we have enough quality to fill 7 man teams - they made up about 14 of the starting 56 team places in the Top league (25%) and 14 also in the Championship (20%)- so would someone like to explain how we fill 28 team places across two leagues if we ban Aussies !! That's effectively 4 entire teams.

 

Seriously get a grip people - we will all be watching National league racing in a few years if a few of you get your way.

 

I'm all for developing British talent but we simply don't put the investment in at Grass roots to attract and support British youngsters. The Young Aussies leave home, travel half way around the world and take a gamble in making it work and for that I take my hat off. Try and put yourself in their shoes for a minute - think about it.

 

Attitude is everything regardless of your nationality, Promoters need to do there homework but banning riders based on their nationality is not the answer - especially Aussies .

[BobC]

 

Priorities isn't always for the rider to decide for themselves. AFAIK there are international rules that says which kind of meetings that has priority.

Scheduled meetings have priority over postponed meetings and national and international championship meetings have an even higher priority.

 

As Perton Wolf says, I am referring to Club fixtures, be that Pairs,4tt Cup and League, plus Riders Championship Finals too.

 

I would never want to hold a rider back in his quest to better himself, but not at his Club/sponsors expense.

 

World Champs, Internationals, U21 team or individual are fine.

[Gr8scot]

Edinburgh (& Glasgow) would have been much worse off over the years without a steady flow of Ausy riders

 

Some Southern based riders (with notable exceptions!) don't want to travel so far North

 

Both teams have had some great and some not- so- great Ausy lads in our squads and ended up forging amazing friendships with some amazing characters

 

IMO If you treat people properly you will reap the rewards

[The White Knight]

Edinburgh (& Glasgow) would have been much worse off over the years without a steady flow of Ausy riders

 

Some Southern based riders (with notable exceptions!) don't want to travel so far North

 

Both teams have had some great and some not- so- great Ausy lads in our squads and ended up forging amazing friendships with some amazing characters

 

IMO If you treat people properly you will reap the rewards

A very good point Gr8tscot, and so true.

[ray c]

Brittish speedway would be in poorer state without Australia riders jmo

[Dave Jones]

Brittish speedway would be in poorer state without Australia riders jmo

Not if they conduct themselves in the same manner as Holder & Batchelor. IMO

[SCB]

Brittish speedway would be in poorer state without Australia riders jmo

How?

 

Nobody would notice any negatives if we did ban them. Yet we'd have less meetings called off. Just what do the Aussies add that would make the league poorer without them? The ability to complain as soon as a track is not dry and snooker table smooth?

[The White Knight]

Everyone seems to be generalising here. That is wrong.

 

Some Australians are a positive influence on our Speedway, some are not. I would agree with not employing those who are always moaning as claimed by a few on here - but the others are not guilty by association, they are all individuals and some are great assets to our Sport. Josh Grajczonek has done nothing wrong as far as I know - why should he, or others like him, be treated as pariahs due to he actions of a certain few of their Countrymen..

 

Those who behave themselves should be welcomed as they bring something different and add colour to our Sport.

[ray c]

Not if they conduct themselves in the same manner as Holder & Batchelor. IMO

they dont though do they and you know it

[Dave Jones]

they dont though do they and you know it

 

I didn't suggest that they all did.

My point was simply that if any Aussies wish to conduct themselves like Holder & Batchelor did , then British Speedway would be no poorer without them.

[The White Knight]

Have you some sort of crystal ball to tell you which ones will and which ones won't ,? none of them play up within the first few years only once they are established ,

So once they are established and they 'kick off' - refuse to employ them the following Season. Easy really.

 

But it won't happen because if a Team finds itself in trouble and needs a top Rider - we all know what will happen.

 

Don't we?

[topsoil]

Edinburgh (& Glasgow) would have been much worse off over the years without a steady flow of Ausy riders

 

Some Southern based riders (with notable exceptions!) don't want to travel so far North

 

Both teams have had some great and some not- so- great Ausy lads in our squads and ended up forging amazing friendships with some amazing characters

 

IMO If you treat people properly you will reap the rewards

I will add Berwick to that list. Rich tradition of Australian (and New Zealand) riders in our history. Our greatest rider (IMO) Wayne Brown, Mike Fullerton, Roger Wright, Bruce Cribb, all the way throuh the ages, right up to the modern day, where the likes of Kozza Smith and Kevin Doolan have been big fan favourites.