mikebv Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Bagpuss said: I’m afraid I’ve been guilty in the past of watching on TV rather than going to Lynn, just felt that the best part of an hour’s round trip along with the best part of twenty quid to get in plus petrol and other bits and pieces tipped the balance towards watching from home. I think a lot of the issue goes back to to the lack of a 'tribal' following now within Speedway.. Why follow with passion a team when over a season your own riders could prevent their own team qualifying for the play offs by scoring points for competitors? Imagine if Poland did the same thing? If they did, you could guarantee crowds would plummet and sponsors would leave overnight. . Betard would be delighted I am sure for Woffy and Majic to have top scored for Lublin in a win during the season and those points ultimately cost Wroclaw a play off place... The hundreds and thousands of Euros they put into both team and individual sponsorship would soon be pulled and disillusioned fans would leave the stadiums empty.. Over here, Speedway has very much become a 'just go and watch the racing' night out for many who, given the way the sport is allowed to be ran, and the lack of kudos in winning anything, don't take the team aspect too seriously Unfortunately these (and I include myself) fans will usually be ex regulars who go far more infrequentlly, as watching on TV delivers a similarly 'emotional' experience as being there.. Meaning sitting in your living room with a beer in hand offers a pretty decent night in (whoever you're watching), without paying out anything like the costs incurred of attending in person. . Get some 'tribal rivalries' back (as a team sport should have), give winning a UK Speedway title some credibility and reward, and maybe then being there will become the "only" choice to make rather than being sat in front of the TV just appreciating the racing that you're watching.. Edited September 23, 2020 by mikebv 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 I completely agree with on this matter,fans have voiced their opinions for years regarding this,but just falls on deaf ears and excuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) Can't wait to see some live speedway again, particularly supporting my team Lost interest, no way!!!! I have watched a few of the Polish meetings etc on PremierTV but apart from watching the form of a few riders they do nothing for me, I feel no passion for any Polish team lol I am quite excited about the prospect of British Speedway streaming, particularly if the BSPL somehow have meetings streamed on a regular basis next year, would love to be able to watch Lynn's away meetings and I would certainly pay for the privilege ....... Edited September 27, 2020 by Trees 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 On 9/23/2020 at 8:44 AM, iainb said: in the future I think £5 - £7.50 would be my limit for a streamed match, compare this to Eurosport, BT Sport or Premier Sports and it's poor value, and before anybody comes back to me explaining the costs involved, I know this and all I'm really interested in is the cost to myself. Couldn't agree more but I suspect that taht might involve more common sense than we usually see from the BSPA ( pricewise ) as they prefer, it seems 500 - 800 people at £18 than, possibly double that at £10 - 12 . At more than a £1 a heat and with the certainty ( in my experience ) of only 4 - 5 heats incolving real racing after turn two, lap one it has become poor VFM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 On 9/23/2020 at 8:44 AM, iainb said: For me you just can't beat being there live, there's absolutely no comparison. It'll be interesting to see how the new streaming takes off for the BSPL, at the moment they seem to think that £13 is a fair price, I suppose market forces will decide what the price should be. For me that's far too much and only around a £5 saving on actually being there and having the "live" experience. I know there's other costs associated with attending a meeting but for me I'd often make a day of attending meetings further away from home and pull in some other local attraction. As a one off I will be re-investing my £20 to watch this weekend's British Final as I've paid it out already and want to help them covering their costs as they've been done up like a kipper but in the future I think £5 - £7.50 would be my limit for a streamed match, compare this to Eurosport, BT Sport or Premier Sports and it's poor value, and before anybody comes back to me explaining the costs involved, I know this and all I'm really interested in is the cost to myself. You would like to think the price would come down if they done it on a more regular basis.As a one-off event it wasn't a too bad a price.They can't charge that price for example if they were showing one every week imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedwayTShirts Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 You'd think each match would on average be watched by at least 2 people in the same household, in my case 3 of us watched the British Final so it worked out cheap as chips. With the demise of speedway in the UK it might be just what the sport needs. With plenty of back up material to keep people entertained during breaks etc it makes for a solid few hours of entertainment compared to freezing your bits off on the terraces waiting for an ambulance to come back or watching a tractor go around and nothing else to entertain you. It's sad the sports come to this but I fear it's best days are behind it from a live point of view apart from the odd meeting like Cardiff or a Testimonial. I thought the coverage was excellent, thoroughly professional, there was one tapes view that was a bit dodgy a few times but in the main 10/10, credit where it's due. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted October 1, 2020 Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 I’ve just read chris Louis talking about the restrictions they have to put in place to get fans back in stadiums, this is no way a slur on Chris or British speedway and what they are doing but I simply will not attend any speedway meetings while any restrictions of any kind are in place, I’m not going into the rights and wrongs of the covid stuff in this post but I go to speedway to socialise and enjoy the sport, I’m not go to be treated like a naughty little child, sorry I know it’s harsh on speedway and it’s 100% not their fault but it’s how I feel, I’m missing the social aspect of speedway as I am with other things I do but I can’t enjoy live speedway from the naughty step 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted October 1, 2020 Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 2 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: I’ve just read chris Louis talking about the restrictions they have to put in place to get fans back in stadiums, this is no way a slur on Chris or British speedway and what they are doing but I simply will not attend any speedway meetings while any restrictions of any kind are in place, I’m not going into the rights and wrongs of the covid stuff in this post but I go to speedway to socialise and enjoy the sport, I’m not go to be treated like a naughty little child, sorry I know it’s harsh on speedway and it’s 100% not their fault but it’s how I feel, I’m missing the social aspect of speedway as I am with other things I do but I can’t enjoy live speedway from the naughty step 100% agree with that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 14 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: I’ve just read chris Louis talking about the restrictions they have to put in place to get fans back in stadiums, this is no way a slur on Chris or British speedway and what they are doing but I simply will not attend any speedway meetings while any restrictions of any kind are in place, I’m not going into the rights and wrongs of the covid stuff in this post but I go to speedway to socialise and enjoy the sport, I’m not go to be treated like a naughty little child, sorry I know it’s harsh on speedway and it’s 100% not their fault but it’s how I feel, I’m missing the social aspect of speedway as I am with other things I do but I can’t enjoy live speedway from the naughty step You're obviously entitled to your opinion but I don't know why you'd cut your nose off to spite your face, I can't see how wearing a face mask and standing 2m away from somebody effects your ability to socialise and watch Speedway... do you like touching people? Rules on things change all the time and you obviously weigh up the pros and cons on whether to keep doing whatever it is that the new rules effect. I don't understand why you can't separate your enjoyment of Speedway and socialising and punish Speedway for it. If you felt that strongly about it you should be organising a revolution and not taking the easy way out of spitting your dummy out and complaining about it on a Speedway forum where nobody is going to see it and do anything about it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 14 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: I’ve just read chris Louis talking about the restrictions they have to put in place to get fans back in stadiums, this is no way a slur on Chris or British speedway and what they are doing but I simply will not attend any speedway meetings while any restrictions of any kind are in place, I’m not going into the rights and wrongs of the covid stuff in this post but I go to speedway to socialise and enjoy the sport, I’m not go to be treated like a naughty little child, sorry I know it’s harsh on speedway and it’s 100% not their fault but it’s how I feel, I’m missing the social aspect of speedway as I am with other things I do but I can’t enjoy live speedway from the naughty step Your choice, but if every speedway supporter had your attitude and was boycotting meetings then Clubs would soon fold up and there wouldn't be any Speedway to watch I hope to be able to attend meetings soon, as I think the Clubs need support now more than ever ( and I wont be sulking about wearing a mask ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, iainb said: You're obviously entitled to your opinion but I don't know why you'd cut your nose off to spite your face, I can't see how wearing a face mask and standing 2m away from somebody effects your ability to socialise and watch Speedway... do you like touching people? Rules on things change all the time and you obviously weigh up the pros and cons on whether to keep doing whatever it is that the new rules effect. I don't understand why you can't separate your enjoyment of Speedway and socialising and punish Speedway for it. If you felt that strongly about it you should be organising a revolution and not taking the easy way out of spitting your dummy out and complaining about it on a Speedway forum where nobody is going to see it and do anything about it I have joined a revolution(if you want to call it that)although I am not going to protest marches as I think they are pointless, I posted on here because it’s a speedway forum and my point was about speedway, i have posted on other forums about other subjects, the situation is this you either object to these covid measures or speedway will be finished in this country as a professional sport,doesn’t matter if you believe in covid or not, even Godfrey can see it, things like football are only getting through this cause they have financial backers which are going to dry up eventually, they are worried and so should you be, speedway is a social event or at least it should be, take that away it’s just not speedway, IMO there is no point in league speedway without a crowd who are stood together and generally socialising, it’s just not the same, ask the riders or football players, they are still playing the same game but it’s just not the same as with a crowd Edited October 2, 2020 by THE DEAN MACHINE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 hour ago, djr said: Your choice, but if every speedway supporter had your attitude and was boycotting meetings then Clubs would soon fold up and there wouldn't be any Speedway to watch I hope to be able to attend meetings soon, as I think the Clubs need support now more than ever ( and I wont be sulking about wearing a mask ) There isn’t going to be any professional speedway in Britain to watch unless we object to these restrictions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: I have joined a revolution(if you want to call it that)although I am not going to protests as I think they are pointless, I posted on here because it’s a speedway forum and my point was about speedway, i have posted on other forums about other subjects, the situation is this you either object to these covid measures or speedway will be finished in this country as a professional sport,doesn’t matter if you believe in covid or not, even Godfrey can see it, things like football are only getting through this cause they have financial backers which are going to dry up eventually, they are worried and so should you be, speedway is a social event or at least it should be, take that away it’s just not speedway, IMO there is no point in league speedway without a crowd who are stood together and generally socialising, it’s just not the same, as the riders or football players, they are still playing the same game but it’s just not the same as with a crowd I get a lot of what you're saying but one thing is for sure not going to protests to try and get things changed and not going to Speedway is not going to save Speedway during these current times. Basically you're sitting back and punishing Speedway for the governments actions. It doesn't really matter whether I agree with you about whatever you think about Covid or not but if I understand you seem to think the way to get the government to change policy is to not go to Speedway? You say there is no point in Speedway without a crowd and I agree, I think that about any sport but you were saying that even if a crowd were allowed with "any restrictions" you still wouldn't attend because you didn't want to be on the naughty step... well you can't go to Speedway carrying a gun or wearing no clothes, or possessing drugs, they are all restrictions, for the good of society, I'm guessing you don't have any problems with these so why should you with a face mask or 2m distancing, for a short while until things are under control? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, iainb said: I get a lot of what you're saying but one thing is for sure not going to protests to try and get things changed and not going to Speedway is not going to save Speedway during these current times. Basically you're sitting back and punishing Speedway for the governments actions. It doesn't really matter whether I agree with you about whatever you think about Covid or not but if I understand you seem to think the way to get the government to change policy is to not go to Speedway? You say there is no point in Speedway without a crowd and I agree, I think that about any sport but you were saying that even if a crowd were allowed with "any restrictions" you still wouldn't attend because you didn't want to be on the naughty step... well you can't go to Speedway carrying a gun or wearing no clothes, or possessing drugs, they are all restrictions, for the good of society, I'm guessing you don't have any problems with these so why should you with a face mask or 2m distancing, for a short while until things are under control? A short while ?? I’m not getting into where all this is going on this on this topic as we have other topics for that, but this is here to stay for a good while yet, I will fight for my right to be a free person and so should you, I don’t want to see speedway suffer but unless we stop this nonsense it’s finished anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 Just now, THE DEAN MACHINE said: A short while ?? I’m not getting into where all this is going on this on this topic as we have other topics for that, but this is here to stay for a good while yet, I will fight for my right to be a free person and so should you, I don’t want to see speedway suffer but unless we stop this nonsense it’s finished anyway So you're going to fight for your right to be a free person by not going to Speedway and not going to any protests but by letting everybody know on a Speedway Forum that you won't be going to live Speedway? I think you may have been to your last Speedway for a while then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 hour ago, iainb said: So you're going to fight for your right to be a free person by not going to Speedway and not going to any protests but by letting everybody know on a Speedway Forum that you won't be going to live Speedway? I think you may have been to your last Speedway for a while then As have you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedwayTShirts Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 Maybe we could just do what they do in Poland. Absolutely F All lol, the terraces are packed again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 hour ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: As have you No... I'm going to attend a speedway meeting as soon as I'm allowed to following whatever restrictions are required 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 9/27/2020 at 8:07 PM, Trees said: Can't wait to see some live speedway again, particularly supporting my team Lost interest, no way!!!! I have watched a few of the Polish meetings etc on PremierTV but apart from watching the form of a few riders they do nothing for me, I feel no passion for any Polish team lol I am quite excited about the prospect of British Speedway streaming, particularly if the BSPL somehow have meetings streamed on a regular basis next year, would love to be able to watch Lynn's away meetings and I would certainly pay for the privilege ....... I think a lot of fans would pay to watch a streaming meeting of their team at an away venue, I certainly would but would it be viable to set up and stream it at a reasonable cost. I don’t suppose they will know until they try it but recent events seems to suggest it’s a possibility, it would be interesting to know the figures for the recent matches but of course I don’t expect them to be made public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, iainb said: No... I'm going to attend a speedway meeting as soon as I'm allowed to following whatever restrictions are required Yes I’m sure you will,shame there isn’t going to be any unless we stop all this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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