stevebrum Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Najjer said: The Monday meetings were usually bank holidays I believe, which many have said were their biggest crowds of the season. Both 7th and 28 July meetings were bank holiday meetings whilst the 14th July was a regular Monday. So they weren’t a Monday night club as someone laughingly tried to suggest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Lakeside v Glasgow postponed because of England’s World Cup match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 I notice, what is happpening in the world of speedway today, is fans are now desensitised to negative events such as the RH situation. No, they are not the first club to close mid season, but maybe the first top flight club, to my recollection. There doesn't appear to be the same outrage and panic that was felt and expressed in past years, when a crisis occurred. Speedway fans seem to expect the worst and when there is a positive, it's a bonus! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Does anyone know if the riders will get fixed up anywhere else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Ray Stadia said: I notice, what is happpening in the world of speedway today, is fans are now desensitised to negative events such as the RH situation. No, they are not the first club to close mid season, but maybe the first top flight club, to my recollection. There doesn't appear to be the same outrage and panic that was felt and expressed in past years, when a crisis occurred. Speedway fans seem to expect the worst and when there is a positive, it's a bonus! Because it is inevitable .......falling crowds over the last 5-10 years at least , anyway it’s not the promoters fault it’s the fans fault for not flocking to the stadiums. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daytripper Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 hour ago, cityrebel said: The sport just lurches from one crisis to another. Just a couple of days after losing rye, we are hearing that lakeside are having to ditch some of their Friday meetings. This is a very worrying time to be a speedway fan in the South East. The whole point of Lakeside going in the Cl rather than the PL was to retain their Friday race night, so they didn’t go down the same drain as Rye House were clearly going down from the day they agreed to fixed race nights instead of sticking with their tried and tested weekend race night , even if it meant dropping to the CL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, Ray Stadia said: I notice, what is happpening in the world of speedway today, is fans are now desensitised to negative events such as the RH situation. No, they are not the first club to close mid season, but maybe the first top flight club, to my recollection. There doesn't appear to be the same outrage and panic that was felt and expressed in past years, when a crisis occurred. Speedway fans seem to expect the worst and when there is a positive, it's a bonus! Oxford in 2007 was the last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Birmingham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 43 minutes ago, Fred Flange said: It looks like they rode on a Wednesday when they were against other 'monday teams'. I wouldn't be surprised if those Wednesday meetings drew the bigger crowds. Belle Vue's Monday night crowds this season have been the lowest since we moved to the new stadium. I was at Rye v Wolves that was a Wednesday. There were only a few hundred there I'd say 400 at most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Clubs closing in midseason have always seemed to have been run by promoters who are new to the sport and underfunded with delusions of being able to do much better than anyone before them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 16 minutes ago, ouch said: Birmingham. I forgot about Brum, I went there that season as well. That's old age creeping up on me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 I’ve been to all but one Aces fixtures this season, putting much needed funds into the sport as a whole. That ends as of now and with having an Aces season ticket it means no more of my cash will go into the sport this year. I attended Rye to see The Aces achieve a fine win only to see it scrubbed from the records. Why chance it again? I put in a previous post how it takes effort to drive away anorak wearing (I have a nice Aces cost) board waving (I have a few) diehard fans but they’ve managed it with this one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 9 hours ago, The Little Un said: In reality teams had the choice to race in the league that races on the night they want to race. If the Premiership could only attract seven teams that would be their problem as I am sure that the Championship would have loved to have an extra team or two in their ranks because they could have simply scrapped the idea of the Shield competition. The whole situation today is exactly what happened in 1964 when the National League disregarded the wishes of the other clubs around the country and had to beg them to let them join the new British League because few if any Provincial League clubs wanted to ride in the National League. 100% correct! The Shawcross Report (still available online) told the story, sorted the SCB and said speedway was a business. Power was stripped away from the axis of SCB/big league mafia and spread across all promotions, forming the BSPA. Where have you gone, Joe Shawcross? A nation turns its lonely eyes to you........? 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbiter Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 hour ago, lewy said: Does anyone know if the riders will get fixed up anywhere else? Depends if there are some teams looking to chop and change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill94d Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 We are in the situation that pertained in 1960. The biggest success story of my 60 years of an interest in speedway was the Provincial League. The National League was down to about 8 teams and strugling but the PL settled down well. No big stars, some who were but past their peak, but rising talent (Mauger, Monk, Eric Boocock, George Hunter) ensured good if not really top notch racing. We do not need the GP stars. We need one big league with as many teams as there are riders, no doubling up so that the fans can relate to their riders. Accuse me of being a dinosaur if you like but the present path is the road to ruin IMHO.L 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 14 minutes ago, bill94d said: We are in the situation that pertained in 1960. The biggest success story of my 60 years of an interest in speedway was the Provincial League. The National League was down to about 8 teams and strugling but the PL settled down well. No big stars, some who were but past their peak, but rising talent (Mauger, Monk, Eric Boocock, George Hunter) ensured good if not really top notch racing. We do not need the GP stars. We need one big league with as many teams as there are riders, no doubling up so that the fans can relate to their riders. Accuse me of being a dinosaur if you like but the present path is the road to ruin IMHO.L Fans relating to their riders. Got it in one. Can you imagine Coca Cola changing their recipe every year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 hour ago, crescent girl said: 100% correct! The Shawcross Report (still available online) told the story, sorted the SCB and said speedway was a business. Power was stripped away from the axis of SCB/big league mafia and spread across all promotions, forming the BSPA. Where have you gone, Joe Shawcross? A nation turns its lonely eyes to you........? And Joe Dimagio would have been a great attraction at any speedway meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 2 hours ago, topaz325 said: Because it is inevitable .......falling crowds over the last 5-10 years at least , anyway it’s not the promoters fault it’s the fans fault for not flocking to the stadiums. That's right I blame the fans too! They could have all taken the Promoters advice and brought a new friend every week ( sometimes two ) or over the last few years eagerly paid, say £25 or even £30 to get in. That would have given riders a much better living ( no mortgages ) and promoters far fewer headaches and financial stresses. Fans should all be castigated and any over 65 should really pay more, not less. With 2,000people per match at Rye House even BMR would have made it a roaring success. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) 55 minutes ago, bill94d said: We are in the situation that pertained in 1960. The biggest success story of my 60 years of an interest in speedway was the Provincial League. The National League was down to about 8 teams and strugling but the PL settled down well. No big stars, some who were but past their peak, but rising talent (Mauger, Monk, Eric Boocock, George Hunter) ensured good if not really top notch racing. We do not need the GP stars. We need one big league with as many teams as there are riders, no doubling up so that the fans can relate to their riders. Accuse me of being a dinosaur if you like but the present path is the road to ruin IMHO.L If clubs are running at a profit/break even, why should GP riders be done away with? You only have to look at the shambles in the Championship of fixtures being cancelled and moved because teams need guest riders and there aren't any available. What a joke situation that is. Scunthorpe going to Redcar tonight with only 3 of their usual team. There simply isn't enough riders for one big league. I haven't done the maths on whether 6 man teams would seem more logical to try and make it work but even that seems a long shot to me. Edited July 5, 2018 by Najjer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICKAT Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 I see the SGB website has chosen not to make any mention of this and have immediately taken the link off the Premiership clubs links. Guilt do we think! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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