hammer1969 Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said: I agree with this but £10k each meeting is a huge sum, if true. The BSPA release also said BMR notified them of the troubles, as well as riders. As they are the leaseholders, did they sub-let to the promotors and charge a rent? BSPA release doesn't make it sound like the promoters are BMR. As I understand it BMR/Warren Scott is the promoter and bought the lease off Len Silver Steve Jenson is named as co promoter. Depending on how finances are set up it could be that a Bank may be owed money therefore they could take over the assets ie the leasehold. Goodness knows how a this saga is going to end up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisperer Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 1 minute ago, hammer1969 said: As I understand it BMR/Warren Scott is the promoter and bought the lease off Len Silver Steve Jenson is named as co promoter. Depending on how finances are set up it could be that a Bank may be owed money therefore they could take over the assets ie the leasehold. Goodness knows how a this saga is going to end up. An enlarged Go Kart track ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 2 hours ago, screm said: Not quite sure you can put the failing of Rye House solely down to Buster though I will concede it has happened on his watch. Don`t forget Buster needs the rest of the promoters with him to get anything significant done. Buster alone ousted Gordon & Morton in his lone attempt to take over. Gerhard engines was another solo project. He doesn’t do everything alone, his mate Godfrey often helps out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 Someone mentioned have the crowds they gained from Lakeside two years ago gone back to Arena now they are in div 2? well simply put absolutely not, Lakeside have had poor crowds this season, I am talking almost as bad as crowds used to be on a Sky night, if it doesn't improve Lakeside could well follow Rye House. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer1969 Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Whisperer said: An enlarged Go Kart track ! You could be right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 23 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: I REPEAT that any views I express here are my own. But I think in the very near future SS will be expressing its concern not only about British speedway but the magazine itself. The two go hand-in-hand and with attendances dramatically down right across the spectrum of British speedway sales of Speedway Star are inevitably adversely affected. For sure I understand the views are your own Phil, but it must be difficult for people to disassociate the personal comment you back away from the views of a mag where you are a major shareholder. Totally also understand that for the Speedway Star continue it goes hand in hand with a sustainable Sport. Time for an open frank appraisal by your mag on the state of Speedway. I am sure it won’t make for pleasant reading, but I am sure your readership won’t be surprised by what is written. It’s out there for all to see. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner85 Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 Sad to see the demise of Rye House. hopefully a return in 2019 at asuitable level 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisperer Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, ouch said: Buster alone ousted Gordon & Morton in his lone attempt to take over. Gerhard engines was another solo project. He doesn’t do everything alone, his mate Godfrey often helps out. Brothers in arms, and that's just what you know about. This is undoubtedly the poorest performing Management Committee in decades. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseygunner Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 Mr Rising The Star has been part and parcel of speedway as long as I have been attending matches. It’s a great read and provides great insights about some of the riders. When you look at sports like rugby, football etc, there is always an attendance figure shown. The Polish & Swedish leagues clearly have no issues issuing official attendance figures yet British speedway doesn’t. Is there a reason why the promoters don’t do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonsDen Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 1 hour ago, cityrebel said: The awful traffic congestion on the M25 has played a big part in rye's demise this season. Taking on the jams on a work night is a no goer for a lot of fans. That's exactly why I haven't been to a Speedway meeting this year, No chance of me risking the M25 car park mid week for Rye House or indeed Lakeside on a Friday Night 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gresham78 Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 The demise of the Rockets is a severe body blow for British speedway. With the top flight now consisting of just 7 teams will it remain viable? Especially as other tracks must be struggling as well. I find it worrying that Belle Vue with the new stadium and facing large overheads have seen their crowds significantly depleted this season, perish the thought but if they went under I think the sport here would collapse. I have no idea what the way forward is for the sport as Speedway's ills are many but I do think it needs to be independently governed as I feel the BSPA really is really no longer up to the job. Right now Speedway needs somebody with a vision to take it into the future, the trouble is who is that person? Commiserations to all Rye House fans the sport is all the worse for the demise of your club. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 4 hours ago, ReadingRacer2017 said: One big league in 2018 a near on certainty now. Not enough riders 1 hour ago, Whisperer said: Rye House today, Workington, Peterborough and Lakeside next? Who knows just wait for the BSPA's next attempt to close a club or three, how about cancelling some of their fixtures for starters? Don't forget BV! 38 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: I REPEAT that any views I express here are my own. But I think in the very near future SS will be expressing its concern not only about British speedway but the magazine itself. The two go hand-in-hand and with attendances dramatically down right across the spectrum of British speedway sales of Speedway Star are inevitably adversely affected. You'll have your work cut out reporting on this and the goings on at Cov! Another postponement with no reason given... Just like Rye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisperer Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, iainb said: Not enough riders Don't forget BV! You'll have your work cut out reporting on this and the goings on at Cov! Another postponement with no reason given... Just like Rye I've not checked Belle Vue's fixtures but the other 3 clubs have had their Fridays binned, the Official SGB website has those fixtures removed from next week onwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, marko said: Someone mentioned have the crowds they gained from Lakeside two years ago gone back to Arena now they are in div 2? well simply put absolutely not, Lakeside have had poor crowds this season, I am talking almost as bad as crowds used to be on a Sky night, if it doesn't improve Lakeside could well follow Rye House. The crowds were decent at the start of the season at lakeside, but they have slowly dwindled away. With England playing on Saturday afternoon, I half expected the Glasgow match to be called off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, DragonsDen said: That's exactly why I haven't been to a Speedway meeting this year, No chance of me risking the M25 car park mid week for Rye House or indeed Lakeside on a Friday Night I leave my car at work in South West London, and jump on the train to lakeside and rye. I couldn't do it any other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 24 minutes ago, semion said: For sure I understand the views are your own Phil, but it must be difficult for people to disassociate the personal comment you back away from the views of a mag where you are a major shareholder. Totally also understand that for the Speedway Star continue it goes hand in hand with a sustainable Sport. Time for an open frank appraisal by your mag on the state of Speedway. I am sure it won’t make for pleasant reading, but I am sure your readership won’t be surprised by what is written. It’s out there for all to see. IT'S coming and soon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseygunner Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 Mr Rising The Star has been part and parcel of speedway as long as I have been attending matches. It’s a great read and provides great insights about some of the riders. When you look at sports like rugby, football etc, there is always an attendance figure shown. The Polish & Swedish leagues clearly have no issues issuing official attendance figures yet British speedway doesn’t. Is there a reason why the promoters don’t do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blantyre80 Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: The quicker the powers at be realise that the Sport needs a total revamp at a lower level and build up again the better IMO.Its been staring them in the face for the last few seasons.The riders will be getting a little nervous these days.Feel sad for Rye fans,hopefully the can be resurrected by someone next season.Guests ,doubling-up and fixed race nights have to go.The sport has to be creditable. The problem with the powers that be is they are only out for their own clubs interests. Until when the decision making is removed from the promoters (how many of them actually do promote?) to people who are not involved with any club will things change. Sadly by the time the penny drops British Speedway will probably be gone. Hopefully there is someone out there who can find a solution. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 Just now, Blantyre80 said: The problem with the powers that be is they are only out for their own clubs interests. Until when the decision making is removed from the promoters (how many of them actually do promote?) to people who are not involved with any club will things change. Sadly by the time the penny drops British Speedway will probably be gone. Hopefully there is someone out there who can find a solution. BUT the promoters provide the finance so cannot be totally divorced from the process. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisperer Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: IT'S coming and soon It might not be a bad idea to talk to some former Promoters to find out why they got out, oh and how hard they were shafted by their colleagues. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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