Rye House 2018

[Tosh1218]

The Somerset away fixture is now postponed , so I doubt the next home fixture will take place . For the good of Speedway can someone give a statement . If it was riders with holding there services There would be repercussions so come on some one make a statement and let the league move forward for the benefit of every promoter, manager , rider and supporters 

[Haza]

19 minutes ago, Tosh1218 said:

The Somerset away fixture is now postponed , so I doubt the next home fixture will take place . For the good of Speedway can someone give a statement . If it was riders with holding there services There would be repercussions so come on some one make a statement and let the league move forward for the benefit of every promoter, manager , rider and supporters 

One repercussion could be the whole league collapses if BT contract is for 8 teams if Rye was to close will BT honour the contract ? and without BT payments will other clubs survive? Which could mean the whole league collapses .

[DC2]

3 minutes ago, Haza said:

One repercussion could be the whole league collapses if BT contract is for 8 teams if Rye was to close will BT honour the contract ? and without BT payments will other clubs survive? Which could mean the whole league collapses .

 

What BT payments?

[cityrebel]

3 minutes ago, Haza said:

One repercussion could be the whole league collapses if BT contract is for 8 teams if Rye was to close will BT honour the contract ? and without BT payments will other clubs survive? Which could mean the whole league collapses .

I would imagine the payments are minimal compared to the SKY deal. 

[Bald Bloke]

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere it's around £3k per televised meeting. Would hardly cover missing fans i'd say ???

 

Edited July 2, 2018 by Bald Bloke

[Haza]

31 minutes ago, DC2 said:

 

What BT payments?

I’m sure BT pay something even if it is minimal 

[Ben91]

3 hours ago, Trees said:

If, as is always mooted, the majority of Rye's fans are getting on a bit, why can't they support the team on a week night lol. Old habits die hard I guess. 

I do think the management need to put a bit more thought into the viewing though, open up the pits area too. 

Maybe it's all too late, the fans have not used and are going lose their club, we'll see. 

It isn’t the fault of the fans that the sport in this country is a shambles. 

 

[Haza]

14 minutes ago, Ben91 said:

It isn’t the fault of the fans that the sport in this country is a shambles. 

 

Definitely not the fans fault - promotions total failure to promote the sport and the bit that gets me and this is the reason I’ve not been to Kings Lynn for over a year is being totally taken for granted .

[Blazeaway]

23 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

I don’t. He spent 95% of his time on here being abusive to nearly all and sundry.  Puts himself on some kind of pedestal when in fact he is nothing more than a speedway fan, like the rest of us. 

Calling people names in virtually every post that are brimming with venom. Not a nice person.

Absolutely bang on. 

[capone]

40 minutes ago, cityrebel said:

I would imagine the payments are minimal compared to the SKY deal. 

not directed at you city rebel....just wanted to get in on a sky comment

i remember when sky used to sponsor ./ pay  clubs in premier league,...and the amount of slagging off they got on the speedway forums, like how they were doing it all wrong,...how they had dictated the league, meetings only on cos the cameras were there etc,..could be one of the reasons they pulled out,..so when B.T. pull their plug.

is that mission accomplished from the dissatisfied ,who are looking for a scapegoat...not all riders can make a living as a rider...years ago (1970s)most had a day job esp

if starting out as a rider,   maybe needs to be like that again with a re structure...fixed race nights  is just another nail  ect

[GWC]

13 minutes ago, capone said:

not directed at you city rebel....just wanted to get in on a sky comment

i remember when sky used to sponsor ./ pay  clubs in premier league,...and the amount of slagging off they got on the speedway forums, like how they were doing it all wrong,...how they had dictated the league, meetings only on cos the cameras were there etc,..could be one of the reasons they pulled out,..so when B.T. pull their plug.

is that mission accomplished from the dissatisfied ,who are looking for a scapegoat...not all riders can make a living as a rider...years ago (1970s)most had a day job esp

if starting out as a rider,   maybe needs to be like that again with a re structure...fixed race nights  is just another nail  ect

I think it is more to do with Sky restructuring their sports schedule and broadcasting. Falling revenue is another contributor.

[Argos]

What I don’t understand is this, and maybe this is why RH are in such  mess, The new owners buy the club of Mr Silver then put some one in charge who has no experience in Speedway ie Steve Jensen he seems absolutely clueless but why wouldn’t he he’s never been involved in Speedway, do you think RH would be in such a state if they had employed Colin Pratt,   

[waytogo28]

1 minute ago, Argos said:

What I don’t understand is this, and maybe this is why RH are in such  mess, The new owners buy the club of Mr Silver then put some one in charge who has no experience in Speedway ie Steve Jensen he seems absolutely clueless but why wouldn’t he he’s never been involved in Speedway, do you think RH would be in such a state if they had employed Colin Pratt,   

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Only the seemingly "clueless" qualify as potential new promoters nowadays. An essential part of the £9.95p bond they have to put up. The problem really is - how to find such candidates.

[Najjer]

4 hours ago, Shadders said:

It’s pretty obvious the problems at Rye House stem from the move to fixed night racing. Attendances down over 50% would kill any club. Unless the BSPA relent I fear there will be no more Rye House Rockets this year and perphaps for ever. Add to that some of the extraordinary pay deals some of the riders are rumoured to be on, the loss of the Sky TV deal and the infrequent meetings. I’ll be surprised if we’re not the only club in trouble. 

Whilst 6 out of 8 is far from being a success, it seems to be only Rye House and Belle Vue who can't make it pay currently. Like you say, I think the fixed race nights has obviously had a massive impact but there is other big problems too.

5 hours ago, Shadders said:

There a quite a few who know, but have been asked to keep it quiet until something official is announced. 

I would of thought the lack of any news after almost a week would signify negotiations are taking place. 

Surely they could of announced that last week? "There is negiogations ongoing. We will update you further when we can confirm more news."

All they've done now is alienate and pi$$ off what fans they do have left.

[WalterPlinge]

On the subject of Rye House, a dormant limited company, Restart Drinks (UK) Ltd, filed to change its name to BMR Speedway Ltd on 20/12/2015  presumably this is the company promoting Rye House --    However, it has never filed any accounts since.

A sister company BMR Racing Ltd, Hasn't filed any accounts since December 2015, and has since been given notice by Companies House that it is to be struck off.  (This notice has since been stayed in June 2018).   The last (2015) accounts filed by BMR Racing Ltd showed it had debts of £3m.

In football there are tests to ascertain if new club owners are "fit and proper" owners.    Does Speedway make such checks?

 

 

 

Edited July 2, 2018 by WalterPlinge

[Dave Stummings]

Not sure if this has already been posted but doesn’t make good reading from the Dragons Speedway Club  

“Hi everyone, sadly the meeting this Sunday (8th) at Rye House is cancelled. Our next event is Sunday 29th July 12-4pm at Rye House.
If you would like to enter please contact Claire on:
Mob: 07904 234022
email: dragonsspeedway@gmail.com” 

[Dave Stummings]

1 hour ago, WalterPlinge said:

On the subject of Rye House, a dormant limited company, Restart Drinks (UK) Ltd, filed to change its name to BMR Speedway Ltd on 20/12/2015  presumably this is the company promoting Rye House --    However, it has never filed any accounts since.

A sister company BMR Racing Ltd, Hasn't filed any accounts since December 2015, and has since been given notice by Companies House that it is to be struck off.  (This notice has since been stayed in June 2018).   The last (2015) accounts filed by BMR Racing Ltd showed it had debts of £3m.

In football there are tests to ascertain if new club owners are "fit and proper" owners.    Does Speedway make such checks?

 

 

 

The speedway club I believe submit their accounts as Carter & Bailey. This  company has gone back donkeys years  at Rye House. Len traded at Rye under this name may have sold the company name to BMR. 

[WalterPlinge]

8 minutes ago, Dave Stummings said:

The speedway club I believe submit their accounts as Carter & Bailey. This  company has gone back donkeys years  at Rye House. Len traded at Rye under this name may have sold the company name to BMR. 

You seem to be correct.   Carter & Bailey Ltd last filed accounts to April 2015.   They were signed off by Len Silver.      Since then the company has been sold.  Len Silver and Hazal Naylor are no longer officers of the company.

Warren George Scott is the sole director and also a shareholder with greater than 75% control (presumably 100% shareholder).   However no accounts have ever been filed and Companies House have been threatening to strike the company off for failure to file.  (latest company strkeoff action was discontinued in Dec 2017).

 

 

 

 

[Aces51]

9 hours ago, Najjer said:

Whilst 6 out of 8 is far from being a success, it seems to be only Rye House and Belle Vue who can't make it pay currently. Like you say, I think the fixed race nights has obviously had a massive impact but there is other big problems too.

 

But 4 of those 6 have been racing on their regular race night. Of the 4 who had to change night, you have mentioned Rye House and Belle Vue are struggling, it seems that Somerset may be ok but that could be helped but fans no longer having to face the M5 on a Friday and I don't know how crowds are holding up at Leicester.

[Najjer]

18 minutes ago, Aces51 said:

But 4 of those 6 have been racing on their regular race night. Of the 4 who had to change night, you have mentioned Rye House and Belle Vue are struggling, it seems that Somerset may be ok but that could be helped but fans no longer having to face the M5 on a Friday and I don't know how crowds are holding up at Leicester.

So that shows with the correct racenight it is viable. All this talk of reducing costs with 35.00 points limits and stuff like that is absolute nonsense.