Rye House 2018

[Midland Red]

25 minutes ago, Argos said:

If anyone knows what is going on it’s Phillip Rising 

By his own admission recently on this forum, he likes to tell just part of the story, to start minds and tongues working, then refuses to tell the significant rest of the story - for his own amusement

 

[racers and royals]

6 minutes ago, Midland Red said:

By his own admission recently on this forum, he likes to tell just part of the story, to start minds and tongues working, then refuses to tell the significant rest of the story - for his own amusement

 

In my opinion that`s mighty unfair on Phillip- he try`s to give as much info as possible without betraying confidences. This is very similar to what Rob McCaffery has been trying to do.

[PHILIPRISING]

RECENTLY I was invited to meet a member of the BSPA to discuss their relationship with Speedway Star and, indeed, the media in general. I told him that in my opinion the BSPA had become more of a secret organisation than the Vatican. It is all well and good publishing daily news items, which are fine, but there is no official spokesperson for the BSPA empowered to make official statements.

It is only after an AGM that any official announcements are made and then, a few days later, changes are often made which are not made public. They are their own worse enemy in this respect. It is no wonder that the general speedway public are suspicious and often put two and two together to make five because no one says otherwise. Quite often one promoter will say one thing and another something totally different.

Many years ago when Martin Rogers, a journalist by trade, was a member of the BSPA Management Committee he would brief the media, and especially Speedway Star, after meetings, some of which was "off the record" but at least we would know exactly what was going on and could do our best to keep the paying punters properly informed.

With regard to the current situation with Rye House ... I am sure there are people that know as much as I do, which frankly isn't much.

But it is situations like this which the BSPA as an organisation handle so poorly. Of course, they can not be expected to release confidential information but just a holding statement along the lines of "the BSPA are in negotiations with the Rye House management to resolve their current difficulties and in the meantime their immediate fixtures have been suspended" would have been better than total silence which invites fans to draw their own, frequently inaccurate, conclusions.

What is not in doubt is that British speedway is facing a crisis the like of which I have not witnessed in over 50 years of covering the sport.

 

[Midland Red]

21 minutes ago, racers and royals said:

In my opinion that`s mighty unfair on Phillip- he try's to give as much info as possible without betraying confidences. This is very similar to what Rob McCaffery has been trying to do.

This is what he posted on the "World Championship Pairs" thread

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On 6 June 2018 at 9:18 PM,  Midland Red said: 

So why did you say anything, Philip?

Once again it's a case of "I know something but I'm not telling!"

Keep it shut if you haven't got anything to say in full

WHERE'S the fun in that?

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[stewmac]

Spot on Philip.

[PHILIPRISING]

1 minute ago, Midland Red said:

This is what he posted on the "World Championship Pairs" thread

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On 6 June 2018 at 9:18 PM,  Midland Red said: 

So why did you say anything, Philip?

Once again it's a case of "I know something but I'm not telling!"

Keep it shut if you haven't got anything to say in full

WHERE'S the fun in that?

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IT was tongue in cheek... get a sense of humour

[Rayleigh]

2 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

I don’t. He spent 95% of his time on here being abusive to nearly all and sundry.  Puts himself on some kind of pedestal when in fact he is nothing more than a speedway fan, like the rest of us. 

Calling people names in virtually every post that are brimming with venom. Not a nice person.

That rather harsh Steve, you have every right to disagree with anything/everything that Rob has written but he desperately wants speedway to survive at Rye House and he himself has taken some damn right abusive comments. Whether he is a nice person is for you to judge if you actually know him? but if not, can I let you know that when Rye House was closed and closed for good in 1998 (the track was tarmacked) he put his time and money in supporting the Ribbons & Entwistle plan to re-launch the club and if that had never happened then there would have been one less team for Poole to beat.

In short he is not the typical fan who pays £18 to watch a match, turns up 15 minutes before the start and then feels he has the right to spend the promotors money on a fantasy line-up but strangely never actually chucks in £10,000s of his own money.

Finally I hope you reconsider your comments above that will only help push another fan away (even a fan with different opinions to yourself as the sport needs everybody right now).

[screm]

6 minutes ago, Richard Weston said:

Well said.

The BSPA have no crisis management strategy....strange for a sport that most believe is in meltdown.

I am sure there enough experienced journalists/media folk/PRs on the fringes of speedway who could do a good job for the sport as an "official spokesperson"

 

Didn't Nigel Pearson used to be the media man for the BSPA, surely someone out there could step up. The current situation with Rye House sums things up perfectly, the silence coming from Rye House speedway and the BSPA is deafening. Lots of rumours and none of them very positive for the future of Rye House speedway.

[racers and royals]

4 minutes ago, screm said:

Didn't Nigel Pearson used to be the media man for the BSPA, surely someone out there could step up. The current situation with Rye House sums things up perfectly, the silence coming from Rye House speedway and the BSPA is deafening. Lots of rumours and none of them very positive for the future of Rye House speedway.

He still is- but he relies on the BSPA authorsing whatever they want to impart.

[Vince]

1 hour ago, racers and royals said:

In my opinion that`s mighty unfair on Phillip- he try`s to give as much info as possible without betraying confidences. This is very similar to what Rob McCaffery has been trying to do.

I also think it was very unfair on Philip, however there is a huge difference between him and Rob McCaffrey who, however good his intentions, is abusive and has no respect for any opinion other than his own as far as I can see.

[Hamish McRaker]

If the BSPA has become incapable of functioning properly then is it now down to the structure above it, to intervene and take over running the sport? As the SCB and BSPA are almost identical entities, then it would it be for the ACU to take action, backed by the FIM?

[PHILIPRISING]

21 minutes ago, screm said:

Didn't Nigel Pearson used to be the media man for the BSPA, surely someone out there could step up. The current situation with Rye House sums things up perfectly, the silence coming from Rye House speedway and the BSPA is deafening. Lots of rumours and none of them very positive for the future of Rye House speedway.

NIGEL still is but his brief doesn't include making announcements on behalf of the BSPA MC, which is in my opinion a cardinal sin. 

[iris123]

16 minutes ago, Vince said:

I also think it was very unfair on Philip, however there is a huge difference between him and Rob McCaffrey who, however good his intentions, is abusive and has no respect for any opinion other than his own as far as I can see.

Spot on yet again Vince

[semion]

Being a  good journo Phil, if you can’t get ya story through the front door then go around the back.  Hopefully the fans will get the full unabridged story in your mag come Thurs. 

[PHILIPRISING]

3 minutes ago, semion said:

Being a  good journo Phil, if you can’t get ya story through the front door then go around the back.  Hopefully the fans will get the full unabridged story in your mag come Thurs. 

NOT sure the full story will be available by press time on Tuesday. Thanks for the above comments.

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

16 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said:

NOT sure the full story will be available by press time on Tuesday. Thanks for the above comments.

You could the rye house riders a call, unless they have been gagged they do know the whole story 

[screm]

39 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said:

NIGEL still is but his brief doesn't include making announcements on behalf of the BSPA MC, which is in my opinion a cardinal sin. 

Seems the help is there if the BSPA are willing to use it, not just this Rye House situation but so many others, rule changes etc where the BSPA seem intent on alienating themselves from the paying speedway customer, never before have I seen so many fans turning their back from the sport, and once they`re gone they`re gone for good.

Edited July 1, 2018 by screm

[PHILIPRISING]

1 minute ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

You could the rye house riders a call, unless they have been gagged they do know the whole story 

NO doubt we will but if the situation is not finally resolved one way or the other would not expect a comment. 

[PHILIPRISING]

1 minute ago, screm said:

Seems the help is there if the BSPA are willing to use it, not just this Rye House situation but so many others, rule changes etc where the BSPA seem intent on alternating themselves from the paying speedway customer, never before have I seen so many fans turning their back from the sport, and once they`re gone they`re gone for good.

YOU are absolutely right. And if I need proof I just look at Speedway Star's weekly sales! And then go and lay down in a darkened room.

[BWitcher]

6 hours ago, RobMcCaffery said:

Okay, you win. I regret trying once more to help the BSF. I will remove all postings on the matter and you can all whinge on about how nobody ever tells you anything and maybe work out why?

EDIT: - There, all gone now. Apologies for disturbing the ignorance. 

 

What a surprise. Toys thrown out of pram. AGAIN.

Grow up ffs.