Arthur54 Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, Gavan said: Harris beat Kurtz 5 times out of 7 races last season so yes maybe will be the better of the 2 but no foregone conclusion that he will beat Harris on either track Barker beat Kurtz everytime as well so i cant see why Ben wouldnt do better in match races v Woryna And in match ups i would expect Robson to easily outscore MS Although i would expect Woryna, Kurtz and MS to have higher final averages than those you have matched them up against would expect in head to heads it would be much closer. I would say Rye and Wolves , although with weaker teams than Poole, will be harder sides for Poole to beat over 2 legs than say Belle Vue ah but is Kurtz better than Morris 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, Arthur Fry said: ah but is Kurtz better than Morris Only in Shovlers dreams 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Gavan said: Harris beat Kurtz 5 times out of 7 races last season so yes maybe will be the better of the 2 but no foregone conclusion that he will beat Harris on either track Barker beat Kurtz everytime as well so i cant see why Ben wouldnt do better in match races v Woryna And in match ups i would expect Robson to easily outscore MS Although i would expect Woryna, Kurtz and MS to have higher final averages than those you have matched them up against would expect in head to heads it would be much closer. I would say Rye and Wolves , although with weaker teams than Poole, will be harder sides for Poole to beat over 2 legs than say Belle Vue I am not so much writing about them racing each other but over the course of a whole season against all teams. James Shanes beat Thorsell from the back at Poole last season. Doesn’t make him the better rider. Edited February 10, 2018 by Steve Shovlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 27 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: I am not so much writing about them racing each other but over the course of a whole season against all teams. James Shanes beat Thorsell from the back at Poole last season. Doesn’t make him the better rider. Im agreeing with you. Poole have the better team than both Rye House and Wolves. In my opinion only Belle Vue come close to Pooles side. However over 2 legs i think Poole would struggle more against Rye or Wolves then Belle Vue. I think Pooles riders will go better at Belle Vue than the other 2 tracks thats all im saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 40 minutes ago, Arthur Fry said: ah but is Kurtz better than Morris i see you add some meaningful thoughts into the discussion. when you have something decent to say perhaps we can debate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Yet another illegal team. Do we ever start a season without at least one illegal team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 hour ago, SCB said: Yet another illegal team. Do we ever start a season without at least one illegal team? Not ratified yet..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Whats illegal about the Rye House team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Whats illegal about the Rye House team? Clegg somehow being on a 2.00 average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 49 minutes ago, Panthers89 said: Clegg somehow being on a 2.00 average. So what should his average be, in your opinion ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, SCB said: Yet another illegal team. Do we ever start a season without at least one illegal team? Which teams that then, i take it you mean Rye, why ? Edited February 10, 2018 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Starman2006 said: Which teams that then, i take it you mean Rye, why ? Max Cleggs average is not 2.00 as claimed by Rye House. This puts their team over the limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, SCB said: Max Cleggs average is not 2.00 as claimed by Rye House. This puts their team over the limit. So what is it in your opinion.? Edited February 10, 2018 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Clegg's Championship average was 4.15 divide by 1.3 conversion means his Premiership average should be 3.19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Starman2006 said: So what should his average be, in your opinion ? IMO - he shouldn't be on a 2.00 average, that was only from 4 meetings last season for Wolves, so going on that basis, if you are having a shocker of a season, you may aswell tempt some new riders over, and let them reduce the averages for following season. Clegg should be on his previous top league average of 4.15 IMO, where he rode 20 meetings back in 2016. Or if that's not fair, take his Championship average of 4.15 with Edinburgh and convert that into a Premiership average, so 3.19, IF the conversion rate is 1.30 Also, good to see you back on the Forum. Edited February 10, 2018 by Panthers89 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Just now, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Clegg's Championship average was 4.15 divide by 1.3 conversion means his Premiership average should be 3.19 Right, so why didnt the promotion work that out ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 31 minutes ago, Starman2006 said: So what is it in your opinion.? My opinion is exactly the same as dontforgetthefueltapsbruv. His average is 3.19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 hour ago, SCB said: My opinion is exactly the same as dontforgetthefueltapsbruv. His average is 3.19 So again, why have the promotion overlooked that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted February 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 18 minutes ago, Starman2006 said: So again, why have the promotion overlooked that ? No one knows but the promotion at Lakeside also over looked it and were forced to release Clegg and sign a lower averaged rider... its still possible Rye might have to change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Isn't it more a case that lakeside got both reserves averages wrong..which then meant Clegg didn't fit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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