Popular Post New era Panthers Posted January 9, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 On 11/14/2018 at 6:25 PM, Chris116 said: Very sad. If there is no racing at Rye House then my last speedway meeting was the penultimate meeting this year as I live in South London and use public transport. Poole would be the only other track I could do but it is very expensive now First have the rail franchise and they love their interval so much I always am worried I will have to miss the last race to catch the last train home to Wimbledon. When I brought up the problem of missing the train with their office they laughed at me and said that no-one with any sense would use the train so they went off my list of tracks two years ago. Hi Chris , if you are interested I would be willing to pick you up from Peterborough train station and take you back there after meeting(s) at the showground . I don't want anything for this just trying to get you some speedway action , if you are interested please pm me and we can get something sorted. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWC Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 20 hours ago, eric i said: Can someone explain to me whats going on at Rye House? All I know is they had money problems last year and they had to pull out of the league. Why haven't they been put up for sale? They pulled the plug mid season due to mounting losses and I suspect they are in dispute with the bspa over money owed to riders amongst others. A naive promotion faced with the change of race night they didn’t expect to impact so badly on their business The place is a speedway venue and with the lack of clubs in the area it surly will come back one day. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 In the Chris Harris interview in this week's Speedway Star, he reckons he is still waiting for payment for 9 meetings for Rye House!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris116 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Skidder1 said: In the Chris Harris interview in this week's Speedway Star, he reckons he is still waiting for payment for 9 meetings for Rye House!! I have to ask where the bond all promotions are supposed to lodge with the BSPA went? If it was used up with payments to the BSPA before the riders were paid then it is a disgrace which the BSPA should be ashamed of and the riders should take action to rectify the situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Chris116 said: I have to ask where the bond all promotions are supposed to lodge with the BSPA went? If it was used up with payments to the BSPA before the riders were paid then it is a disgrace which the BSPA should be ashamed of and the riders should take action to rectify the situation. Maybe the bond has been paid out but doesn't cover all the losses incurred? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris116 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 That is possible but then there is the question of how soon the BSPA were advised of the situation and how long was it before they took action. If Chris Harris has not been paid for nine meetings then that should also be true for all the other riders. So how many meetings did the bond cover? In other words was it that the riders were not paid for fifteen meetings and the bond has been used to pay six meetings? Could the BSPA confirm that all fees were paid up to date or was some of the bond used for that purpose? I understand that the team sheet given to the referee at each meeting has to be signed by the team captains to the effect that riders have been paid up to date. When did the Rye House captain refuse to sign that information? Too many unanswered questions sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 The bond I think may only cover debts to riders at what is regarded as 'standard rates' Concensus seems to be the Rye deals were far from standard It may well be that the riders therefore consider they are still owed for the 9 meetings even if the standard rate has been paid out Just speculation on my part - I have no information or evidence as proof and no knowledge as to whether any payment has been made 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Harris is known to follow the money so you may be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigred Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 14 hours ago, Skidder1 said: In the Chris Harris interview in this week's Speedway Star, he reckons he is still waiting for payment for 9 meetings for Rye House!! All the team are still owed for 9 meetings and hearing from someone who knows it doesn’t sound like they will be paid anything.the bspa won’t pay them anything and said if they want paying they have to take BMR to court for it. My opinion Rye house should not be allowed to run speedway at any level(even practise days and make money ) until there debts have been settled.It is a complete joke. good look to all the owed riders for 2019. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 12 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: The bond I think may only cover debts to riders at what is regarded as 'standard rates' Concensus seems to be the Rye deals were far from standard It may well be that the riders therefore consider they are still owed for the 9 meetings even if the standard rate has been paid out Just speculation on my part - I have no information or evidence as proof and no knowledge as to whether any payment has been made Of course that’s assuming Rye paid a bond in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, bigcatdiary said: Of course that’s assuming Rye paid a bond in the first place. Very good point, the bond can be made up of actual money or assets which everyone knows are effectively worthless except upon paper. Im still surprised the Harris has the cheek to say he was under paid after some of his Rye House efforts, would have thought £2.50 and a packet of wotsits would have covered it. Its beautifully ironic that riders "can't make it pay" so jack up their prices, put clubs out of business and then don't get paid at all (maybe if they weren't so greedy they would still be taking a wage). Also the bspa, the governing body that has the "best interests of speedway" at its heart is determined to keep Rye House closed and see one of the limited speedway venues the country has lost to the sport. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 It's not just the debts though is it. Rye House stadium is a mess and needs big investment. Who could afford such an outlay with very little chance of a return on their money. Hoddesdon might be another venue that is consigned to the history books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukie Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 keep the faith perhaps buster will buy ryehouse for 2020 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 56 minutes ago, dukie said: keep the faith perhaps buster will buy ryehouse for 2020 Surely that would make far too much sense. Why save a team from extinction when he can buy a team (Ipswich) that wasn't up for sale. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 There was a release that all rider's owed were paid out of the bond. Because the rider's were paid out of the bond they can no longer chase the promotion for outstanding debt. Some rumours were that Harris wage worked out more per point that Doyle's Somerset contract, if so, imo Harris was ripping off the Rye House owners and doesn't deserve any outstanding payment. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 On 1/11/2019 at 8:11 AM, SPEEDY69 said: Harris is known to follow the money so you may be right. And who can blame him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 6 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: There was a release that all rider's owed were paid out of the bond. Because the rider's were paid out of the bond they can no longer chase the promotion for outstanding debt. Some rumours were that Harris wage worked out more per point that Doyle's Somerset contract, if so, imo Harris was ripping off the Rye House owners and doesn't deserve any outstanding payment. Not sure I quite follow the logic here, presumably Harris would negotiate his own contract with the Rye House promotion so well done to him for getting a good contract. You might want to ask why the Rye house promotion were so daft to agree to a contract they weren't able to afford, presumably Nicholls, Kasprazak and co had equally lucrative contract, little wonder then that Rye House found themselves in the mess they did. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 hour ago, screm said: Not sure I quite follow the logic here, presumably Harris would negotiate his own contract with the Rye House promotion so well done to him for getting a good contract. You might want to ask why the Rye house promotion were so daft to agree to a contract they weren't able to afford, presumably Nicholls, Kasprazak and co had equally lucrative contract, little wonder then that Rye House found themselves in the mess they did. It's clear what I mean. The rider's took advantage of promoters that clearly had no idea about Speedway. Is it well done Harris? Through the rider's greed, the club closed down and they wasn't paid their full contract and actually ended up worse off because of it, so it isn't "well done" at all for anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 55 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: It's clear what I mean. The rider's took advantage of promoters that clearly had no idea about Speedway. Is it well done Harris? Through the rider's greed, the club closed down and they wasn't paid their full contract and actually ended up worse off because of it, so it isn't "well done" at all for anyone. The riders will get their money either directly from the promotion or from the bond, in reality one and the same really, in fact haven't at least some of the riders had their money. If the riders did take advantage of a promotion who had no idea about speedway, then more fool them, as surely in those circumstances you would get someone in at least to advise on doing rider contracts. I don`t put blame any of this at the door of Chris Harris. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 Its what happens when clubs offer inflated guarantees to riders. Bomber still reckons he's owed money for 9 meetings in this week's Star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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