PHILIPRISING Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) On 1/11/2019 at 10:00 AM, bigcatdiary said: Of course that’s assuming Rye paid a bond in the first place. GOOD point... it has been suggested that some tracks consider their rider assets (which, in fact, are not really tangible assets in the first place) as their bond. Edited January 24, 2019 by PHILIPRISING 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 More "wide boy" Arthur Daley ways of doing business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 16 hours ago, screm said: The riders will get their money either directly from the promotion or from the bond, in reality one and the same really, in fact haven't at least some of the riders had their money. If the riders did take advantage of a promotion who had no idea about speedway, then more fool them, as surely in those circumstances you would get someone in at least to advise on doing rider contracts. I don`t put blame any of this at the door of Chris Harris. If there's enough money to come from the bond etc. the BSPA will only pay standard rates not any inflated rates or guarantees riders where on! No winners in this whole scenario............ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 23 hours ago, screm said: The riders will get their money either directly from the promotion or from the bond, in reality one and the same really, in fact haven't at least some of the riders had their money. If the riders did take advantage of a promotion who had no idea about speedway, then more fool them, as surely in those circumstances you would get someone in at least to advise on doing rider contracts. I don`t put blame any of this at the door of Chris Harris. As I said before what if no bond was paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 23 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Its what happens when clubs offer inflated guarantees to riders. Bomber still reckons he's owed money for 9 meetings in this week's Star. Glasgow fans reckon they are owed a season worth of heat leader performances. Oh well. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 On 1/25/2019 at 11:13 AM, Ghosty said: If there's enough money to come from the bond etc. the BSPA will only pay standard rates not any inflated rates or guarantees riders where on! No winners in this whole scenario............ If only the Clubs paid standard rates,maybe the Sport would be in a healthier state. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Sadly it seems riders cannot live on that and will not accept it. One of the major problems facing the sport. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booey boy Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 minute ago, waytogo28 said: Sadly it seems riders cannot live on that and will not accept it. One of the major problems facing the sport. They have to get a job then like they used to 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 43 minutes ago, waytogo28 said: Sadly it seems riders cannot live on that and will not accept it. One of the major problems facing the sport. The current crop of wasteful riders cannot but there are plenty of future riders coming through who can and would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 The future Riders will soon become mercaneries, when they get shafted by Promoters, as they inevitably will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 13 hours ago, Lord Skid said: The future Riders will soon become mercaneries, when they get shafted by Promoters, as they inevitably will. But at least everyone will know where they stand. Pay up at the end of each meeting and a rider will turn up for the next (considering how easy it is to do via bank transfer these days). Should never be situations where riders ride for 9 meetings without getting paid. No pay, no ride but no risk of being banned. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuxtonTiger Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 Standard Rates. Can anyone confirm what the Standard Rates are for the three leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 On 1/29/2019 at 9:18 AM, Sings4Speedway said: But at least everyone will know where they stand. Pay up at the end of each meeting and a rider will turn up for the next (considering how easy it is to do via bank transfer these days). Should never be situations where riders ride for 9 meetings without getting paid. No pay, no ride but no risk of being banned. All clubs finances should be monitored by an impartial accountant to ensure other tracks don't end up like Rye House. Something like football's FFP should be put in place to make sure clubs don't live beyond their means. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notenoughnerve Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 Except FFP was all about the bigger clubs retaining their position and not allowing new money to oust them from the top table. It would be a curse in Speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) Its more likely to be a 'minimum' standard rate for each league. Clubs will plan a budget and will pay (directly or indirectly via sponsors) what they think they will be able to afford based on projected income from what ever sources are at their disposal - which will be very different at each club. Most riders want guaranteed regular payment rather than loads of 'promises', contracted or otherwise. Obviously, the 'better' the rider is, the better deal can be negotiable. Edited February 3, 2019 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 12:06 PM, Booey boy said: They have to get a job then like they used to Nail on the head! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 Report in today`s " star " that Rye House owner Warren Scott has been declared bankrupt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 26 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Report in today`s " star " that Rye House owner Warren Scott has been declared bankrupt. I wonder where that leaves Rye House stadium. Maybe it will be sold to pay off the creditors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
startline sid Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 6 hours ago, cityrebel said: I wonder where that leaves Rye House stadium. Maybe it will be sold to pay off the creditors. BMR are only the leaseholders - as far as I know the Lee Valley authority actually own the stadium 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFTGNigel Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 On 1/11/2019 at 8:11 AM, SPEEDY69 said: Harris is known to follow the money so you may be right. What on earth is that comment meant to mean with regard to a rider who wasn't paid for many, many meetings where he was risking his welfare and livelihood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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