ouch Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Do the maths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Najjer said: If clubs are running at a profit/break even, why should GP riders be done away with? He doesn't say that GP riders should "be done away with", he says that we "don't need" GP riders; two very different statements. Others have mentioned on here that riders of a similar standard can provide excellent racing, which is true. You don't "need" GP riders to provide good racing. Steve 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairboy Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 A new statement on the RH website (sorry, no idea how you put links up) - worth reading! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, Najjer said: If clubs are running at a profit/break even, why should GP riders be done away with? You only have to look at the shambles in the Championship of fixtures being cancelled and moved because teams need guest riders and there aren't any available. What a joke situation that is. Scunthorpe going to Redcar tonight with only 3 of their usual team. There simply isn't enough riders for one big league. I haven't done the maths on whether 6 man teams would seem more logical to try and make it work but even that seems a long shot to me. Only two clubs have GP riders in their line ups. The league isn’t exactly flooded with them. So we’re at a point where we hope our clubs are just breaking even? That’s only going to end one way and that’s more clubs going the way of Rye. When things are rosy at your own club it’s easy to take the if it’s not broke don’t fix it attitude but there are serious issues with Speedway in this country and they need fixing. If one league (which there are enough riders for) is the answer and the standard drops slightly so that we can all prosper in future then so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisB Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 4 hours ago, Come on the Skipper said: http://www.workingtoncomets.co/news/article.asp?id=100967 Full story here Blimey! Speedway in the UK on the brink? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Ben91 said: Only two clubs have GP riders in their line ups. The league isn’t exactly flooded with them. So we’re at a point where we hope our clubs are just breaking even? That’s only going to end one way and that’s more clubs going the way of Rye. When things are rosy at your own club it’s easy to take the if it’s not broke don’t fix it attitude but there are serious issues with Speedway in this country and they need fixing. If one league (which there are enough riders for) is the answer and the standard drops slightly so that we can all prosper in future then so be it. Although currently only two official riders, Niels K Iversen has ridden in the GPs this year and also Chris Holder would of been in the league too but for visa issues. You can add Martin Vaculik to that list before his injury. There is still some other top riders within the league currently like Lambert, Bjerre, Andersen and up until yesterday Kasprzak etc. There is a massive problem currently and it's certainly not all rosy. But one big league where everyone has to drop down to Redcar's standard is not the answer. That will see fans leave the sport in it's masses! The comment about breaking even is because believe it or not, I don't have every club's financial status so I assume the at the very least to make things a success, clubs need to break even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, White City Rebel said: A new statement on the RH website (sorry, no idea how you put links up) - worth reading! The plot thickens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 I have serious doubts now as to whether Speedway will be able to see out the rest of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisB Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Link to website: http://www.ryehouserockets.co/news.php?extend.1580 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Rye say they have been thrown out by the BSPA despite making a proposal to continue. Madness by the BSPA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Thought the original statement said it was SCB who pulled the plug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Just now, Najjer said: Although currently only two official riders, Niels K Iversen has ridden in the GPs this year and also Chris Holder would of been in the league too but for visa issues. You can add Martin Vaculik to that list before his injury. There is still some other top riders within the league currently like Lambert, Bjerre, Andersen and up until yesterday Kasprzak etc. There is a massive problem currently and it's certainly not all rosy. But one big league where everyone has to drop down to Redcar's standard is not the answer. That will see fans leave the sport in it's masses! The comment about breaking even is because believe it or not, I don't have every club's financial status so I assume the at the very least to make things a success, clubs need to break even. Fans are leaving the sport in masses now anyway and it isn’t because of the standard of teams in the main. It’s the growing costs for the same, if not less in terms of product. Sides wouldn’t have to weaken to “Redcar’s standard,” there would be a points limit for all teams to build to with the intention of producing evenly weighted teams as there is now. You’d be surprised. Even with the sarcy comment about not having the finances. It depends who is running each club as to whether they’re Speedway people and will take a loss each year because they love the sport or if they’re in it as a business, which I can’t imagine many are. The National League is gaining clubs year on year at the moment, they can’t sustain racing in the top two tiers. That should be an indicator that we need to change things. Be it going semi-pro, or the more radical step of these NL clubs breaking away from the BSPA and setting up shop for themselves in a similar manner to how the PDC split from the BDO in Darts in the early 90’s when that sport was dying on its arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byker Biker Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, wealdstone said: Thought the original statement said it was SCB who pulled the plug. The BSPA make the decision and request the SCB to annull the SCB Racing Licence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Firstly, we would like to thank all our supporters, dedicated staff and volunteers for their hard work and continued support throughout the season.It is with great regret that the Rye House Rockets have been forced from the Premiership league following the cancellation of the meeting at home against Swindon on 27th June 2018 by the BSPA.Our proposal to the BSPA securing the future of the Rye House Rockets was categorically rejected.We would like to clarify that BMR Speedway Limited continues to operate and remains committed to seeing Speedway as a major part of the future at Rye House Stadium.The future sees Speedway continuing at Rye House for the remainder of the season and forward into 2019. Updates will be provided on our website: www.ryehouserockets.co. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer1969 Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 11 minutes ago, KrisB said: Link to website: http://www.ryehouserockets.co/news.php?extend.1580 Obviously the racing won't be league but whatever form it takes us fans need to try to get behind Rye House and try to help them to take the sport forward 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Nick Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, DC2 said: Rye say they have been thrown out by the BSPA despite making a proposal to continue. Madness by the BSPA. That would depend on what their proposal was surely? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Pirate Nick said: That would depend on what their proposal was surely? Of course. But assuming it was about Saturday matches rather than something quite unreasonable (like BSPA lend us £100k), the BSPA should bend over backwards to keep speedway going everywhere. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterPlinge Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 24 minutes ago, DC2 said: Rye say they have been thrown out by the BSPA despite making a proposal to continue. Madness by the BSPA. As you seem to be in the know, can you tell us what the BMR proposal was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 15 minutes ago, 2ndbendbeerhut said: Firstly, we would like to thank all our supporters, dedicated staff and volunteers for their hard work and continued support throughout the season.It is with great regret that the Rye House Rockets have been forced from the Premiership league following the cancellation of the meeting at home against Swindon on 27th June 2018 by the BSPA.Our proposal to the BSPA securing the future of the Rye House Rockets was categorically rejected.We would like to clarify that BMR Speedway Limited continues to operate and remains committed to seeing Speedway as a major part of the future at Rye House Stadium.The future sees Speedway continuing at Rye House for the remainder of the season and forward into 2019. Updates will be provided on our website: www.ryehouserockets.co. I think it's a pretty poor statement, to be honest. It does nothing to get to the heart of the issue, such as any outstanding money to riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 No, I don’t know what the issue is. I assumed it was the need to race on Saturdays. Why don’t Rye and the BSPA tell us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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