Speedway 2018

[Gazc]

Paulco already knows, a pint of Bell Haven is £2.80, an d a pit of Tennants lager is £3.00. I bought a round for 6 on Saturday it cost £17.40 3 pints of beer and 3 pints of lager. In my favourite pub I get a pint of locally brewed REAL ALE for £3.10

So Paulco like a drink then, he is being used in a few alcohol related posts.

[Fromafar]

He only drinks for statistical purposes it seems.

[Paulco]

I get a bad rep , truth of the matter is i'm a lightweight . I had 2 pints at the speedway last week , and that has been the norm at home this season . Ok away trips are a wee bit different , especially when me and Willie go away for 2 and 3 day trips , but the fixture list doesn't allow for too many of those now .

[balderdash&piffle]

 

Well you aint talking any - sense that is. I didn't say it cost more than a fiver, I said it in many pubs it was more than £2.85, and depending on where then it would be more like £30 for a round of 7.

 

No need to be pedantic, the point was simply that a round often costs more than £15 these days. And no I don't live down south. You make crazy assumptions.

 

There you go, a round costs more than £15.

you said you could not get a round for £20, not £15.a round is as big as the amount of people in the round, so if there was 10 in a round it would be £30 but if only 5 in the round it would be £15, The statement about the round is ambiguous and largely irrelevant

[damosuzuki]

In my view, the ageing supporters who complain about price, music, whatever may have some valid points, but they are not the future of the sport. By all means try to keep them onside, but kids, young adults etc are the future. We should be doing our utmost to get them along. And as I always say, I'm very happy with the demographic at Glasgow these days. Total mix from 2 to 92 and plenty of kids with their parents.

 

There are a good few for whom nothing in life will ever be as good as it used to be, including speedway. It's their mindset, not the world.

[Moranboys]

 

Your point about kids is a misnomer as at most tracks kids either pay half price or nothing at all depending on age.

 

No I am not in a well paid job, I am on almost exactly the average UK wage.

 

But I am a realist. And the realistic fact is that speedway has been in the teens of pounds per match for donkey's years. Twenty quid is worth a fiver these. I saw a guy casually put a twenty quid note in a charity box the other day - and I know he isn't wealthy either, just an ordinary guy. You're kidding yourself on - big time - if you think twenty quid is a King's ransom when the fact is that these days it isn't, A round costs more than that these days. And folk think nothing of it.

 

The cost per track does vary but only by a couple of quid around the average, Christ you pay more than a couple of quid for just a pint of beer, these days usually about a fiver some folk on here moan at length about paying a quid of difference. Get real ffs.

 

If the product is decent then people will pay good money. Let's see, find a high profile venue, maybe a national stadium, charge fifty quid and more and give it loads of razamataz. Maybe only a couple of hundred will turn up. That'll never catch on. Hold on its been done already. Yeah nobody turns up at Cardiff. Yeah right!!

 

The sport needs to get out of this shoestring mentality and follow the example of how the gp's were invigorated. Money is there among the paying public, they WILL spend if the product is there that's a fact. Folk do regularly spend a small fortune on a night out and they think nothing of it. And its usually by those that have average wages.

"these days usually around a fiver" do you never remember what you have posted.

[proud panther]

Thought Wethersoons were all over the Country. I can get half pi**ed for £20 in there, & drink Coors, which is one of the more expensive lagers at £2-69 a pint !!

[magnus]

Loads of chat about what should be charged for admission. But unfortunately i don't believe lowering prices to what some believe will rejuvenate the sport is the answer. That's probably the one thing the BSPA don't control lol. The individual clubs running costs dictate this and many clubs probably still run at a loss.

What the BSPA do have control of, is the infrastructure of the sport and that's where i believe there needs to be a radical restructure of the sport, should we wish it continue. Its impossible to find a solution to solve all problems in one winter conference and i am not admitting i know the answers, but i think everyone will agree over the last few years speedway supporters have declined, to a point where clubs are at risk of folding. So lets try something totally different and construct a plan for the future of British Speedway.

[Bellers101]

By no means a full listing just a few I came up with

Wethers. Pijper. Garcia. Bridger. Sundstrom. Elkhof. Wallner. Covatti. Michelson. Korneilison. J.davidsson,

D.Davidsson, Buzkowski, Holder, Batchelor, Aspgren, Wilkinson, Madsen, Hume, Lebedevs, Palovaara, Hansen, Vissing, lykke ,

Karger, Bach , Thomsen, Grondal, Smolinski, Zengota, Skornicki, Dilger, Bukhave, Berge.

That's. 33 without the bigger names who may return on set nights..

Kus as well and of course Garcia, Holder and Batchelor not being sble to sign for other teams due to the transfer window.

 

Sunstrom fancies another go as well.

[balderdash&piffle]

£3 ruby mild in the beacon Sedgley 6% , 3 pints and talk rubbish for £9 great value plus a packet of crisps for 65p .great night out and cheap. Best about it there's only 3 in the round. That's 2 nights out and change from £20

That a Banks's pub, Is Davenports still available

[IronScorpion]

"these days usually around a fiver" do you never remember what you have posted.

Obviously not as he has multi-posted this 4 or 5 times already.

 

 

quote;

 

A round costs more than twenty quid these days. The other day I saw a guy casually put a twenty quid note in a charity box. I do have a point.

[balderdash&piffle]

Obviously not as he has multi-posted this 4 or 5 times already.

 

 

quote;

 

A round costs more than twenty quid these days. The other day I saw a guy casually put a twenty quid note in a charity box. I do have a point.

As I said how big is the round, 3, 5,6,7,10,20, the statement was an irrelevance. A round for 10 in Pardubice when at the Golden Helmet is 300czk roughly £10 at todays exchange rate, last year it worked out at £7

[Bellers101]

Smolinski and Manzeres also looking for a UK return and Nicol and Becker looking to get over from the USA.

 

Loads of riders out there if

Promoters looked for them and stopped taking the lazy option of a double up.

Edited September 7, 2017 by Bellers101

[Norfolk Bear]

Smolinski and Manzeres also looking for a UK return and Nicol and Becker looking to get over from the USA.

Loads of riders out there if

Promoters looked for them and stopped taking the lazy option of a double up.

See post #41 , add these & Kus , list around 40 . As you say too many taking the easy route

[leander]

It's an interesting conundrum isn't it?

 

Supporters:- "Get rid of the doubling-up it's killing speedway"

 

Riders:- " I need to double up to make speedway pay. It's my only job"

 

Doubling up is not new. When I first started watching in 1975, the Owen brothers regularly rode for Newcastle and Hull, all be it for the same promoter.

[balderdash&piffle]

It's an interesting conundrum isn't it?

 

Supporters:- "Get rid of the doubling-up it's killing speedway"

 

Riders:- " I need to double up to make speedway pay. It's my only job"

 

Doubling up is not new. When I first started watching in 1975, the Owen brothers regularly rode for Newcastle and Hull, all be it for the same promoter.

Bet The Owen Bros had a job as well, semi pros, perhaps the problem lies there, treating speedway as a job and not a hobby. I rode Enduro in the 70/80s, although I rode for my country , it was very much a hobby and not my proffession

[Fromafar]

Bet The Owen Bros had a job as well, semi pros, perhaps the problem lies there, treating speedway as a job and not a hobby. I rode Enduro in the 70/80s, although I rode for my country , it was very much a hobby and not my proffession

Think that is a part of the problem a reserve in Championship thinks he should demand the pay of full time rider these days and the crowds are smaller.

[leander]

Bet The Owen Bros had a job as well, semi pros, perhaps the problem lies there, treating speedway as a job and not a hobby. I rode Enduro in the 70/80s, although I rode for my country , it was very much a hobby and not my proffession

Tom owned a construction company, or something similar, I seem to remember. Joe, I think, only rode speedway. but you are right, for the most part, it was just a "hobby". Just bung the bike on the back of the car and away you go. 1 bike, 1 engine, per season in most cases. Not many rode in more than one country either.

 

Finding an employer that would be willing to give you time off is probably more of a problem now as well.

 

Nowadays I think you'd struggle to find enough riders to fill half a league if it was just treated as a hobby.

Edited September 7, 2017 by leander

[Bellers101]

It's an interesting conundrum isn't it?

 

Supporters:- "Get rid of the doubling-up it's killing speedway"

 

Riders:- " I need to double up to make speedway pay. It's my only job"

 

Doubling up is not new. When I first started watching in 1975, the Owen brothers regularly rode for Newcastle and Hull, all be it for the same promoter.

Most 2nd division riders years ago had jobs or business interests outside of speedway.

 

Nowadays an NL wobbler wants to be a pro and make a living out of the sport and that is part of the problem.

 

For the top riders, fair enough it should be a full time profession.

[waiheke1]

But fans expect the riders to perform as professionals. A rider who has sub standard machinery, or misses the odd meeting due to work, would not be tolerated by fans in the top two tiers...