archie21 Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 After reading two articles in this weeks Speedway Star Jason Doyle says there has been talk of the Premiership Clubs racing on a Monday and Thursday. Rob Godfrey believes that fixed race days will happen and that the Championship Clubs should stay away from these two days and by doing so riders doubling up to the premiership league would work. So if Mondays and Thursday are used in the Premiership League as it stands as of today One team race Mondays and One on Thursdays, with Three other teams having Monday or Thursdays as there second night, leaving Three teams without a declared race night. Would these teams have to go to the local council to request a change of nights if the landlords of the venues can fit in a change? Then theirs the Championship League Three teams race on a Thursday but only one having Monday as their second night and rents the ground from a landlord. I don't think that they will be allowed to change because of the stadiums use. IMO something does need to be done with having set race nights BUT PLEASE PLEASE don't make it so teams must apply to any council for a change of race night as it only takes one person to object as happened in Hull ( Craven Park ) with the Air Horns getting banned. The person worked in the council building and knew who to get on side when they where discussed at a council meeting hence the ban!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 After reading two articles in this weeks Speedway Star Jason Doyle says there has been talk of the Premiership Clubs racing on a Monday and Thursday. Rob Godfrey believes that fixed race days will happen and that the Championship Clubs should stay away from these two days and by doing so riders doubling up to the premiership league would work. So if Mondays and Thursday are used in the Premiership League as it stands as of today One team race Mondays and One on Thursdays, with Three other teams having Monday or Thursdays as there second night, leaving Three teams without a declared race night. Would these teams have to go to the local council to request a change of nights if the landlords of the venues can fit in a change? Then theirs the Championship League Three teams race on a Thursday but only one having Monday as their second night and rents the ground from a landlord. I don't think that they will be allowed to change because of the stadiums use. IMO something does need to be done with having set race nights BUT PLEASE PLEASE don't make it so teams must apply to any council for a change of race night as it only takes one person to object as happened in Hull ( Craven Park ) with the Air Horns getting banned. The person worked in the council building and knew who to get on side when they where discussed at a council meeting hence the ban!! You could race Monday AND Thursday if your stadium is available, I don't think it has to be one or the other. If a team has a handful of rain-offs it'll start to get tricky. You are quite right about it getting awkward for some, what with stadium access and the fact that some Thursday clubs may not want to be in the premiership and are in effect being forced to change their race night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 You could race Monday AND Thursday if your stadium is available, I don't think it has to be one or the other. If a team has a handful of rain-offs it'll start to get tricky. You are quite right about it getting awkward for some, what with stadium access and the fact that some Thursday clubs may not want to be in the premiership and are in effect being forced to change their race night. YOUR last comment is the most problematic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 Ipswich have often stated that a return to the top flight is the long term plan  Stadium use for the Witches is only limited by stock car dates which are always Saturdays and the odd Bank Holiday Monday  So if the promotion felt the time was right a move to the Prem is no problem and equally a change of race night to stay in the Championship is perfectly possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 Personally I wouldn't mind a complete re-shuffling of race nights for UK, Swe and DK. I have no absolutely no idea if this would work for the UK tracks but anyway what I would like to see (but very likely will never happen) is Mondays UK Tuedays UK Wednesdays Sweden Elitserien Thursdays Denmark and Swedish Allsvenskan Fridays Denmark and Poland do have some of the meetings on Fridays Saturdays SGP/SEC/U21 WCH and etc (could also use a reserve days when no championships are held) Sundays Poland This might not be possible but I feel it would be more efficient with less travel or riders who ride in several of the leagues which also would means less travel expenses for teams/clubs,Riders who ride in both UK and Sweden would also have a little more time for rest since they wouldn't have to do UK-Sweden-UK/Denmark-Sweden/Poland/Denmark. Instead it would be: UK->Sweden->Denmark/Poland/UK/stay in Sweden. I don't know if it makes a big difference in the end though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 Ipswich have often stated that a return to the top flight is the long term plan  Stadium use for the Witches is only limited by stock car dates which are always Saturdays and the odd Bank Holiday Monday  So if the promotion felt the time was right a move to the Prem is no problem and equally a change of race night to stay in the Championship is perfectly possible And Redcar and Sheffield? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 And Redcar and Sheffield?Will leave it to fans of those clubs to outline the options for them I can only state the flexibility I would expect Ipswich have if required Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 And Redcar and Sheffield? You beat me to it ff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 Ipswich have often stated that a return to the top flight is the long term plan  Stadium use for the Witches is only limited by stock car dates which are always Saturdays and the odd Bank Holiday Monday  So if the promotion felt the time was right a move to the Prem is no problem and equally a change of race night to stay in the Championship is perfectly possible If they are lucky enough to win promotion this season that is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 If they are lucky enough to win promotion this season that isLucky as in "Can we move up please?". The "please" is optional. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 WOULD Sheffield go Premiership. That would leave only Redcar on Thursdays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 Ipswich have often stated that a return to the top flight is the long term plan  Stadium use for the Witches is only limited by stock car dates which are always Saturdays and the odd Bank Holiday Monday  So if the promotion felt the time was right a move to the Prem is no problem and equally a change of race night to stay in the Championship is perfectly possible Lynn v Ippo in the old British League.Those were the days 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 Lynn v Ippo in the old British League.Those were the days  You also need the riders who care about their Team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 How many riders ,want these changes ?. and how many others does it actually affect , I look forward to next season I'm planning to support whichever team Emil Sajfutdinov chooses to ride for , and of course because of the increased admission I'll have to pick and choose which meetings i go to and which GP stars I really want to see , there's 16 top riders at least ,the 16 GP riders so assuming there's 8 premiership teams that's 2 for each brilliant , only five places left to fill with riders who only want to ride once a fortnight ,, can't wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 So you do all this and then what happens if these TOP riders decide not to come back ,on the Doyle thread he is moaning about the state of tracks in this country .Make no mistake which ever riders you are dealing with MONEY is the most important element of the whole negotiation every time ,which is quite right as they are self employed guns for hire to the highest bidder !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 We don't have the money for Top riders to come here,it's convenient for the ones that are here just now or they would be off.Just look after our own riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 I MAY be wrong but I thought the idea of set race-nights wasn't necessarily about attracting the "top" riders back to the UK but, if two leagues remain, trying to ensure that there are no fixture clashes between Premiership and Championship sides. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 I MAY be wrong but I thought the idea of set race-nights wasn't necessarily about attracting the "top" riders back to the UK but, if two leagues remain, trying to ensure that there are no fixture clashes between Premiership and Championship sides. I thought that originally (before doubling-up became a disease) it was suggested to allow more riders to compete here as well as overseas, Jason Doyle still seems to see it that way. Whatever the predominant reasons might be, I can't see it providing a full cure for current problems, too many riders are financially out of reach and some clubs might well suffer on the gate from having to switch race nights, there will also be the problem of rain-offs, it isn't unusual for some clubs to have five or six in a season and never manage to rearrange them all, even under the current less restricted set-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 PLAYING Devil's Advocate for a moment, some promoters are saying that the problem with re-arranging fixtures is because of the number of riders doubling up and therefore if the PL only runs two nights a week with no CL meetings the same day that could be resolved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 Better fixture planning would help to, it seems most years teams are rushing around in August and September to fit meetings in but have no meetings or very few in May and June. Â Workington still have to fit at least 2 or 3 meetings in but have not been arranged as far as I know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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