Shaleshifter Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 Last fixture of the season for the Pirates at the Oak tree Arena tonight where Poole need a result to claim 4th spot for the playoffs. The Rebels will want to finish thier first season in the Premiership with a win. Poole will be without both Jack Holder and James Shanes. Georgie Wood guesting for Shanes and r/r for Holder. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 Shame we don't have a full team, might cost us in the end. We really need Lahti to be on it again tonight as he'll probably be having 7 rides. Fingers crossed we can do it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 with the form of hans brady and timo we must be in with a shout of what we need onward and upwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bignite Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 Shame we don't have a full team, might cost us in the end. We really need Lahti to be on it again tonight as he'll probably be having 7 rides. Fingers crossed we can do it anyway. shame for you looks like somerset are going with 2 doubtfuls and r/r, mind you on saying that its more of a team than we have had most meetings lately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 shame for you looks like somerset are going with 2 doubtfuls and r/r, mind you on saying that its more of a team than we have had most meetings lately Okay, i didn't realise Somerset don't have a full team either! That changes things. So who is r/r for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 The race for 4th will be over this evening. Poole going to a patched up Somerset so should be able to pick up at least the 2 points they need to get 4th If somehow they dont manage that then they will still be fine as Rye need to get something at home to a side that have won 17 on the trot and beat them by 16 points less than a month ago. Surely Poole cant throw it away now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bignite Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 Okay, i didn't realise Somerset don't have a full team either! That changes things. So who is r/r for? r/r for heeps and the doubtful Mr allen has pulled and kev doolan comes in as a guest select side again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 Going to be a very big ask for us to get anything out of tonight. No Shanes and with respect Woods isn't goong to get near a point. No Holder which is the reason we could come up short. The Somerset team are very good around the oak tree and we could easily come away with nothing tonight. If that is the case Rye will take 4th imo. Still, I will be there cheering on the Pirates. We have certainly improved quite dramatically since our mid season slump and if we get 4th will not be a walk over whoever we meet. Somerset Rebels: Josh Grajczonek [c] (7.63), Richard Lawson (6.96), Patrick Hougaard (6.63), Charles Wright (6.53), Rider replacement for Cameron Heeps (5.49), Kevin Doolan, Lewis Kerr (5.17); Team Manager: Garry May Poole Pirates: Brady Kurtz (8.41), Hans Andersen [c] (7.74), Edward Kennett (6.39), Rider replacement for Jack Holder (5.69), Paul Starke (5.29), Timo Lahti (4.44); Georgie Wood [g] (2.65) Team Manager: Neil Middleditch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 Going to be a very big ask for us to get anything out of tonight. No Shanes and with respect Woods isn't goong to get near a point. No Holder which is the reason we could come up short. The Somerset team are very good around the oak tree and we could easily come away with nothing tonight. If that is the case Rye will take 4th imo. Still, I will be there cheering on the Pirates. We have certainly improved quite dramatically since our mid season slump and if we get 4th will not be a walk over whoever we meet. Somerset Rebels: Josh Grajczonek [c] (7.63), Richard Lawson (6.96), Patrick Hougaard (6.63), Charles Wright (6.53), Rider replacement for Cameron Heeps (5.49), Kevin Doolan, Lewis Kerr (5.17); Team Manager: Garry May Poole Pirates: Brady Kurtz (8.41), Hans Andersen [c] (7.74), Edward Kennett (6.39), Rider replacement for Jack Holder (5.69), Paul Starke (5.29), Timo Lahti (4.44); Georgie Wood [g] (2.65) Team Manager: Neil Middleditch lol yet ANOTHER post playing down Pooles chances of actually getting anything out of a meeting.........isnt it about time you tried another tactic?? Have a little look on the Swindon thread where everyone is having a moan or taking the mickey out of you, its great reading to be honest. So on this meeting tonight where in your world Poole will be lucky to get anything: R/R for Heeps clearly weakens Somerset Doolan in for Allen clearly weakens Somerset (5 rides, 0 points last night at Redcar) You have R/R for Holder who only got 5 last time and isnt exactly in form right now. With a flying Lahti, r/r strengthens you if anything. And yes Woods isnt as good as Shanes.................but he only scored 1 last time so even if Woods gets 0 not a great loss. So obvious to the normal speedway fan that the changes tonight favor Poole more. Oh and Rye have to ride against a team who have won 17 on the trot and thumped them by 16 less than a month ago........! So as it has always been that 4th is in Pooles hands................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 Going to be a very big ask for us to get anything out of tonight. No Shanes and with respect Woods isn't goong to get near a point. No Holder which is the reason we could come up short. The Somerset team are very good around the oak tree and we could easily come away with nothing tonight. If that is the case Rye will take 4th imo. Still, I will be there cheering on the Pirates. We have certainly improved quite dramatically since our mid season slump and if we get 4th will not be a walk over whoever we meet. Somerset Rebels: Josh Grajczonek [c] (7.63), Richard Lawson (6.96), Patrick Hougaard (6.63), Charles Wright (6.53), Rider replacement for Cameron Heeps (5.49), Kevin Doolan, Lewis Kerr (5.17); Team Manager: Garry May Poole Pirates: Brady Kurtz (8.41), Hans Andersen [c] (7.74), Edward Kennett (6.39), Rider replacement for Jack Holder (5.69), Paul Starke (5.29), Timo Lahti (4.44); Georgie Wood [g] (2.65) Team Manager: Neil Middleditch Tough meeting Lahti 7 rides which judging on last night is a big bonus although he may be knackered! Somerset is not a bad team and all their riders go well at their track although Hougaard isn't at his best at the moment. Missing Jack Holder may not hurt us too much and all our riders should go well too but to win the meeting may be beyond us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 Tough meeting Lahti 7 rides which judging on last night is a big bonus although he may be knackered! Somerset is not a bad team and all their riders go well at their track although Hougaard isn't at his best at the moment. Missing Jack Holder may not hurt us too much and all our riders should go well too but to win the meeting may be beyond us. nice to see a well thought out reply unlike others that post tripe lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 Tough meeting Lahti 7 rides which judging on last night is a big bonus although he may be knackered! Somerset is not a bad team and all their riders go well at their track although Hougaard isn't at his best at the moment. Missing Jack Holder may not hurt us too much and all our riders should go well too but to win the meeting may be beyond us. Exactly as I said, though I think we will miss Jack. We are asking a lot of Lahti and as we have both said Somerset are a good team on their own patch. Starke is clr\early struggly and his pairing with Eddie is a big worry. Agree the meeting will possibly be beyond us. We need the win as I expect Rye House to win their remaining meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) Exactly as I said, though I think we will miss Jack. We are asking a lot of Lahti and as we have both said Somerset are a good team on their own patch. Starke is clr\early struggly and his pairing with Eddie is a big worry. Agree the meeting will possibly be beyond us. We need the win as I expect Rye House to win their remaining meetings. Why is it beyond you?? Somerset are far weaker than Poole with riders missing.............Holder and Shanes managed 6 between them last time. Rye are taking on Swindon......you know the team that havent lost in 17 matches yet you believe Rye are nailed on to beat them! Why do you always play down Pooles chances when everyone else can clearly see what you do? Edited September 1, 2017 by Gavan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedwaycrazy Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 The race for 4th will be over this evening. Poole going to a patched up Somerset so should be able to pick up at least the 2 points they need to get 4th If somehow they dont manage that then they will still be fine as Rye need to get something at home to a side that have won 17 on the trot and beat them by 16 points less than a month ago. Surely Poole cant throw it away now? I think Poole need 3 pts to be mathematically certain of 4th place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gresham Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 Popped on the forum to see what was going on...completely forgot about this fixture. I started the season enthusiastically...but as it's progressed, have become seriously underwhelmed. Have witnessed some fine racing on occasion, but the whole situation of doubling up, RR's, Guests, so many riders missing, so many injuries, rain offs etc have pretty much killed it for me. Probably my least enjoyable season of watching racing since starting to watch the Rebels. Good luck to Swindon....hope they win the league title. They deserve it. Just a shame the whole season has been blighted by what it seems like, watching the same old riders over and over again. I'll make a decision about 2pm as to whether to bother or not. At least there are 6 extra races tonight with a small Junior Individual meeting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 Why is it beyond you?? Somerset are far weaker than Poole with riders missing.............Holder and Shanes managed 6 between them last time. Rye are taking on Swindon......you know the team that havent lost in 17 matches yet you believe Rye are nailed on to beat them! Why do you always play down Pooles chances when everyone else can clearly see what you do? Well I think Steve and I both agree it is going to be tough, Kennett was up and down last night, two wins then nothing, Starke is clearly not at his best although he did beat Auty from the back, Jack had a bad night although he did get a race win so may not be a big loss but overall it won't be easy like last night where we should have won by more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 Well I think Steve and I both agree it is going to be tough, Kennett was up and down last night, two wins then nothing, Starke is clearly not at his best although he did beat Auty from the back, Jack had a bad night although he did get a race win so may not be a big loss but overall it won't be easy like last night where we should have won by more. Gavan shows how much of an idiot he is by slating my post and praising yours, when we both made almost identical posts! Lol! Think to get the win tonight all 5 riders need on it from heat 1 and riders like Josh, Greebo, Charles and Lewis are very fast around here. Throw in a returning Hougaard and us missing two key riders and we could easily miss out. Need Swindon to help us tonight but if Rye are fired up like they were on Monday I don't expect the Robins to get the win. Hope I am wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 The race for 4th will be over this evening. Poole going to a patched up Somerset so should be able to pick up at least the 2 points they need to get 4th If somehow they dont manage that then they will still be fine as Rye need to get something at home to a side that have won 17 on the trot and beat them by 16 points less than a month ago. Surely Poole cant throw it away now? Do me a favour Gavan. R/r for Holder and Heeps and guest on either side. If Somerset are patched up then so are we!! Also the key riders tonight are Kennett and Starke, if they can get 7 each, we should be okay. Though we can carry Woods but no one in the 1-5!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 This is a tough one. I think Somerset will win 48-42. We are weakened by R/R for Holder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 We are only weakened by Holder if Starke and Kennett struggle, if they have good meetings we won't miss him. Jack seems to have two good rides and two bad ones at the mo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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