Stars85 Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 So why was he sacked by Chapman then? Only buster knows why. Troy rode well for kings Lynn this season scoring points putting in effort for the team. But as soon as something goes wrong everyone jumps too conclusions and blames the "two whinging aussies" without knowing the facts. ame="Stars85" post="3021107" timestamp="1504082957"] So legit he rode less than 24 hours later !!!!!!! Yes it was as a precaution. No medic withdraws a rider for no reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 So why was he sacked by Chapman then? Only buster knows why. Troy rode well for kings Lynn this season scoring points putting in effort for the team. But as soon as something goes wrong everyone jumps too conclusions and blames the "two whinging aussies" without knowing the facts. ame="Stars85" post="3021107" timestamp="1504082957"] So legit he rode less than 24 hours later !!!!!!! Yes it was as a precaution. No medic withdraws a rider for no reason Did you see how Lebedevs carried on last night after a big crash and then another one later ?? Batchelor was never going to ride any more that night and was extremley lucky to get signed out of the meeting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytsejam Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 Probably that this could have been the final straw after a build up of previous incidents. BUT if he was totally legitimally signed out for this meeting then surely that couldnt be a "straw" at all, final or not?!!!..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 Troy's medical certificate was 100% legit. This has been explained in more than one statement. Oh come on. It's very easy to fake that kind of injury. All you need to do is wince when being examined. You're either a friend/family member or very naive 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 BUT if he was totally legitimally signed out for this meeting then surely that couldnt be a "straw" at all, final or not?!!!..... It could be if Buster was rightly or wrongly not happy about the injury, anyway these riders are self employed contractors and can be sacked at any time. If Troy has a water tight contract he should take Buster or whoever to court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 Yes it was as a precaution. No medic withdraws a rider for no reason A medic will issue a certificate based on what the rider tells him. Given that X-ray facilities are not available, the medic has no choice but to believe what is being said. I would suggest that comments made at the time with reference to the track and subsequent events i.e. the guest appearance the next day had a lot to do with Buster's decision. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunce Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 I just love the Kings Lynn match preview and I quote " The only current absentee is Nicklas Porsing (concussion) with regular stand in Simon Lambert stepping into the breach at reserve"Porsing top scored for Rospiggarna tonight scoring 13+1, not bad for someone with concussion. Then he should be treated the same as Batchelor, and be shown the door. But then I guess he's not bothered as its almost the end of the season. No doubt there will be lots of explanations, as to why he rode in Sweden, but it doesn't wash with me, like several others he is letting the club down, and I for one wouldn't want him back in Stars colours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocha Posted August 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 I just love the Kings Lynn match preview and I quote " The only current absentee is Nicklas Porsing (concussion) with regular stand in Simon Lambert stepping into the breach at reserve" Porsing top scored for Rospiggarna tonight scoring 13+1, not bad for someone with concussion. Then he should be treated the same as Batchelor, and be shown the door. But then I guess he's not bothered as its almost the end of the season. No doubt there will be lots of explanations, as to why he rode in Sweden, but it doesn't wash with me, like several others he is letting the club down, and I for one wouldn't want him back in Stars colours. He rode in Sweden because the Elitserian fixture has been in the diary from the beginning of their season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 I just love the Kings Lynn match preview and I quote " The only current absentee is Nicklas Porsing (concussion) with regular stand in Simon Lambert stepping into the breach at reserve" Porsing top scored for Rospiggarna tonight scoring 13+1, not bad for someone with concussion. Then he should be treated the same as Batchelor, and be shown the door. But then I guess he's not bothered as its almost the end of the season. No doubt there will be lots of explanations, as to why he rode in Sweden, but it doesn't wash with me, like several others he is letting the club down, and I for one wouldn't want him back in Stars colours. Obviously you are one, who speaks without being aware of the facts; Sweden and Britain race to different rules. In UK Porsing is not allowed to ride within 9 day period of getting concussion, whereas in Sweden they have no such rule. Who is right and who is wrong is debatable. But I would have thought all these safety rules should be the same for every country and governed by FIM.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) Porsing rode in Sweden because their rules regarding concussion are not as strict as those in the UK. Porsing fell last week, banging his head and withdrawing from the meeting with yet another concussion (he has been out for quite a while with the after effects of an earlier concussion). In the UK that is a mandatory 9 day suspension. Quire rightly so IMHO (I personally think for a 2nd and subsequent concussion it should be longer but hey ho). Therefore it matters not one iota when the Swedish match was programmed he would not have been allowed to ride in the UK, and I believe his manager said that ban finishes on Thursday. EDIT Beat me to it GRW. I do agree all countries should have the same rules but if others do not take concussion issues seriously (and they don't appear to) the UK should go it alone on this one. Edited August 30, 2017 by Star Lady 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheese Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 Not good if Sweden don't have rules on concussion, something that needs to be taken far more seriously 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunce Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 Obviously you are one, who speaks without being aware of the facts; Sweden and Britain race to different rules. In UK Porsing is not allowed to ride within 9 day period of getting concussion, whereas in Sweden they have no such rule. Who is right and who is wrong is debatable. But I would have thought all these safety rules should be the same for every country and governed by FIM.... I'm fully aware of the differences between the UK and Swedish rules regarding concussion, but I would have thought that it was in Nicklas's own interest to take the full break from racing to allow himself time to heal. What if he had suffered another severe bang to the head when racing in Sweden, the result of which may have been too terrible to contemplate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 I'm fully aware of the differences between the UK and Swedish rules regarding concussion, but I would have thought that it was in Nicklas's own interest to take the full break from racing to allow himself time to heal. What if he had suffered another severe bang to the head when racing in Sweden, the result of which may have been too terrible to contemplate? By the looks of your other post what GRW123 quoted on i 'm not sure you were fully aware of the rules on concussion. To me it sounded like you were getting a bit upset/frustrated because he was riding for Rospiggarna and not Lynn last night.Where as now you know he couldn't have rode for Lynn so have now come out with a different approach on the matter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fever Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 don't think it matters who was riding for Lynn at Rye .... if Ove Fundin had scored 15 we'd have still lost ..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 don't think it matters who was riding for Lynn at Rye .... if Ove Fundin had scored 15 we'd have still lost ..... But if Michael Lee and Ove Fundin had been riding along side Robert Lambert it might have been a draw. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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