tellboy Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 So did he have a medical certificate? If he accepted a guest booking for the second meeting in a double header he should have prepared for the possibility of damaged bikes. Riders are meant to be professionals which means having the equipment to fulfil their commitments. That might sound harsh but paying fans are the ones suffering. How?Do you expect him to have 4 bikes there.Teams would never get guests in double headers if they had to bring 4 bikes,i don't know whether you know how many he has here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 No more bloody double headers or two meetings on a day BSPA, disaster ......... AGAIN 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 How?Do you expect him to have 4 bikes there.Teams would never get guests in double headers if they had to bring 4 bikes,i don't know whether you know how many he has here. Well he allegedly lent one of his bikes to his brother, so it's not as if he didn't have the equipment. Fans should be able to rely on riders honouring their commitments. You wouldn't be happy if a copper turned up to arrest someone then said sorry I can't I lent my handcuffs to my brother. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 Well he allegedly lent one of his bikes to his brother, so it's not as if he didn't have the equipment. Fans should be able to rely on riders honouring their commitments. You wouldn't be happy if a copper turned up to arrest someone then said sorry I can't I lent my handcuffs to my brother. Do they carry more than one set of handcuffs . But genuinely if they expect riders turn up with 3 or more bikes if they are guesting in a double header,then they won't get any guests at all.The only answer is no more double headers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 I don't disagree about double headers, never liked them. If speedway were an amateur sport my views would be different but it's not it is supposedly professional. In Which case all concerned must act professionally. Holder didn't in that notorious meeting, faced disciplinary action and was banned and fined. Bjerre should face the same, if the panel then find extenuating circumstances covered by evidence he may well face lesser or no action. I have no problem with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 So what part of speedway is professional?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 I did say supposedly lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 Correct you did. There is nothing professional about speedway in any way Sharpe or form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 Belle Vue had a back up for tonight. Professional approach. Fail to prepare, prepare to fail. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 So what part of speedway is professional?? Pay day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 Use whatever language you like, he had to withdraw from the meeting. Nothing to see here, move along. Maybe he shouldn't have accepted the booking in the first place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil bv Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 He lent Kenneth an engine not a bike. https://twitter.com/kenneth_bjerre/status/902090168471093248 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 Use whatever language you like, he had to withdraw from the meeting. Nothing to see here, move along. Maybe he shouldn't have accepted the booking in the first placeOr maybe Somerset shouldn't have booked him knowing he had another meeting first where there was the risk of injury?Though you could argue it makes sense to use a rider already there and who should be dialled in to the conditions. Just one of those things. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post g13webb Posted August 29, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 Lasse Bjerre was booked to ride for Somerset in the second meeting tonight at Swindon. It seems he has refused to ride forcing Somerset to go with 5 riders only with no rider at number two. He is at the track. Thoughts? Is it up to him or has he let Somerset down? Yet another example of a thread started purely to assassinate a riders behaviour. Lasse Bjerre is usually very reliable, and him not riding must have been a real let down. But judging from all the information on here, both his bikes were not rideable, he had injuries that didn't help. I say give the chap a bit of slack, he's not that bad person who normally lets people down' if it could be helped.... The amount of meetings held this weekend,, it was inevitable some riders would have problems with crashes and machinery. If there is any fault here, it should be directed to the fixture planners 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penchev Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 Yet another example of a thread started purely to assassinate a riders behaviour. Lasse Bjerre is usually very reliable, and him not riding must have been a real let down. But judging from all the information on here, both his bikes were not rideable, he had injuries that didn't help. I say give the chap a bit of slack, he's not that bad person who normally lets people down' if it could be helped.... The amount of meetings held this weekend,, it was inevitable some riders would have problems with crashes and machinery. If there is any fault here, it should be directed to the fixture planners Is there not a difference betwween refusing to ride? or giving a valid excuse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 Yet another example of a thread started purely to assassinate a riders behaviour. Lasse Bjerre is usually very reliable, and him not riding must have been a real let down. But judging from all the information on here, both his bikes were not rideable, he had injuries that didn't help. I say give the chap a bit of slack, he's not that bad person who normally lets people down' if it could be helped.... The amount of meetings held this weekend,, it was inevitable some riders would have problems with crashes and machinery. If there is any fault here, it should be directed to the fixture planners The problem with giving him a "bit of slack" is it sets a precedent. It opens up the door for any rider in the future to refuse to ride because he has no usable equipment. He should be reported, the SCB should consider all the evidence and make a ruling. If they decide his actions were justified and no further action is taken - fine. That at least would mean in the future any rider refusing to ride would know his actions would be subject to scrutiny. If no action is taken I can foresee a scenario where a rider considers a track to be dangerous, has no medical issue so cannot get a certificate but somehow manages to render his bike unusable and refuses to ride. That must never be allowed to happen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Monster Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 (edited) So did he have a medical certificate? If he accepted a guest booking for the second meeting in a double header he should have prepared for the possibility of damaged bikes. Riders are meant to be professionals which means having the equipment to fulfil their commitments. That might sound harsh but paying fans are the ones suffering. Depends on the timing of the guest booking. If it was on the day, not much could have been done re equipment. If it was earlier, then maybe. What would Somerset supporters say if he went out on knackered machinery and ran 3, 0's. Or borrowed some equipment and wrote it off. Don't think Somerset would have been prepared to foot the repair bills. Edited August 29, 2017 by Honey Monster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Ace Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 Bring back the Track Spare 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 The problem with giving him a "bit of slack" is it sets a precedent. It opens up the door for any rider in the future to refuse to ride because he has no usable equipment. He should be reported, the SCB should consider all the evidence and make a ruling. If they decide his actions were justified and no further action is taken - fine. That at least would mean in the future any rider refusing to ride would know his actions would be subject to scrutiny. If no action is taken I can foresee a scenario where a rider considers a track to be dangerous, has no medical issue so cannot get a certificate but somehow manages to render his bike unusable and refuses to ride. That must never be allowed to happen. We never had this scenario years ago, we took a man's word for any discrepancy, Riders turned up and rode, if their bikes broke down they used the track spare, or borrowed his mates. When you talk about setting presidents, getting Doctor certificates , going before a commettee. what impression does that give... No wonder our sport is all but dead. It has no trust, no belief or integrity, and everyone wants to argue every point..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 We never had this scenario years ago, we took a man's word for any discrepancy, Riders turned up and rode, if their bikes broke down they used the track spare, or borrowed his mates. When you talk about setting presidents, getting Doctor certificates , going before a commettee. what impression does that give... No wonder our sport is all but dead. It has no trust, no belief or integrity, and everyone wants to argue every point..... I don't disagree that years ago the speedway world was better ..it was certainly different However we live in today's world. A world where some, and I emphasis some, riders seem happy for any excuse not to ride on a track they don't like for whatever reason. Fans who pay good money deserve to know that everything that can be done to provide the paid for entertainment will be done. If that means going thro all the disciplinary route so be it. It's nothing personal against Bjerre, I do not know enough about him to form an opinion as to his trust, belief or integrity. I'd say the same whoever the rider. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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