Winners & Play Offs

[Beowulf]

Hope that Belle Vue get their injured riders back and can field a full team and can win the Play Offs they are ones that deserve to win

Why do they deserve it ?

[Phil The Ace]

Let's be serious for a minute.

 

As good as swinson have been they have faced very poor teams full of guests and R/R, as soon as they come up against a decent teams full 1-7 they fell apart last night.

 

Poole have sneaked in after a poor run of home form but recently they are much improved and Poole always do it when it matters.

 

That's why I think Poole will do swindon over 2 legs. They have the experiance. Swindon have the world's best rider but that's it TBH.

 

Wolves need masters to quickly gain fitness. If he does then yes they could trouble belle vue but we are getting into the groove now. Home form is coming.ivnore the Leicester result. A bit of average manipulation happening there. Belle vue are the team most capable team of the 4 getting an decent result away so that's why I think we will sneak past wolves.

 

Then onto belle vue versus Poole, we lost by 13 last time out but bjerre was on borrowed equipment so he won't get 2 next time. And fricke will be back.

 

Poole won't have lahti at reserve but starke is a capable reserve. It will be a closeish final but belle vue coming out on top finally. I can all but hope.

[Beowulf]

 

 

That's a pretty stupid comment in the circumstances. Confirmed by brum liking it, ha ha!

 

All neutrals think Belle Vue deserve to win. No neutrals want wolves to win, get over it.

I didn't ask you k******d.

[Call me wolfie]

 

 

That's a pretty stupid comment in the circumstances. Confirmed by brum liking it, ha ha!

 

All neutrals think Belle Vue deserve to win. No neutrals want wolves to win, get over it.

Why? It's the truth, what had buster got to do with it? I saw my football team liquidated a number of years ago and they had to start again at the bottom. The Aces can think themselves lucky to be able to carry on in the top tier of British speedway

[Mattfordfan]

Let's be serious for a minute.

 

As good as swinson have been they have faced very poor teams full of guests and R/R, as soon as they come up against a decent teams full 1-7 they fell apart last night.

 

Poole have sneaked in after a poor run of home form but recently they are much improved and Poole always do it when it matters.

 

That's why I think Poole will do swindon over 2 legs. They have the experiance. Swindon have the world's best rider but that's it TBH.

 

Wolves need masters to quickly gain fitness. If he does then yes they could trouble belle vue but we are getting into the groove now. Home form is coming.ivnore the Leicester result. A bit of average manipulation happening there. Belle vue are the team most capable team of the 4 getting an decent result away so that's why I think we will sneak past wolves.

 

Then onto belle vue versus Poole, we lost by 13 last time out but bjerre was on borrowed equipment so he won't get 2 next time. And fricke will be back.

 

Poole won't have lahti at reserve but starke is a capable reserve. It will be a closeish final but belle vue coming out on top finally. I can all but hope.

 

Agree with most of your post.

 

Swindon - Are overrated big time imo. That little run they had shouldn't of happened.

 

They got a win at Leicester when the Lions were down to 4 riders on the night.

Somerset had a 4 man team after 3 heats at the Abbey.

Rye House had to use a NL wobbler at reserve in place of KK who is scoring double figures in the 1-5 around Rye.

 

The list just goes on and on.

 

We are weakened when Lahti moves into the 1-5. I think we have got a great chance against Swindon but I couldn't see us winning the final if we got there.

 

A massive plus for BV when Fricke comes back but will he be fit enough is the question.

 

Personally I cant see past Wolves just because of the advantage they have around Monmore. But who knows.

[foreverblue]

 

 

That's a pretty stupid comment in the circumstances. Confirmed by brum liking it, ha ha!

 

All neutrals think Belle Vue deserve to win. No neutrals want wolves to win, get over it.

Moat neutrals want Belle Vue to win. Haha very good!!!

[A ORLOV]

Let's be serious for a minute.

 

As good as swinson have been they have faced very poor teams full of guests and R/R, as soon as they come up against a decent teams full 1-7 they fell apart last night.

 

Poole have sneaked in after a poor run of home form but recently they are much improved and Poole always do it when it matters.

 

That's why I think Poole will do swindon over 2 legs. They have the experiance. Swindon have the world's best rider but that's it TBH.

 

Wolves need masters to quickly gain fitness. If he does then yes they could trouble belle vue but we are getting into the groove now. Home form is coming.ivnore the Leicester result. A bit of average manipulation happening there. Belle vue are the team most capable team of the 4 getting an decent result away so that's why I think we will sneak past wolves.

 

Then onto belle vue versus Poole, we lost by 13 last time out but bjerre was on borrowed equipment so he won't get 2 next time. And fricke will be back.

 

Poole won't have lahti at reserve but starke is a capable reserve. It will be a closeish final but belle vue coming out on top finally. I can all but hope.

Think that if you wish, just remember we were down to 4 riders last night at Rye, even BV lost there and that was with Cookie scoring 19 points, which will not happen again. Even Poole and Wolves lost at Rye as well, so last night means nothing.

[thecoombdog]

 

Agree with most of your post.

 

Swindon - Are overrated big time imo. That little run they had shouldn't of happened.

 

They got a win at Leicester when the Lions were down to 4 riders on the night.

Somerset had a 4 man team after 3 heats at the Abbey.

Rye House had to use a NL wobbler at reserve in place of KK who is scoring double figures in the 1-5 around Rye.

 

The list just goes on and on.

 

We are weakened when Lahti moves into the 1-5. I think we have got a great chance against Swindon but I couldn't see us winning the final if we got there.

 

A massive plus for BV when Fricke comes back but will he be fit enough is the question.

 

Personally I cant see past Wolves just because of the advantage they have around Monmore. But who knows.

Pretty sure our run started with no Doyley or Morris against Wolves and then RR at 1 against BV. I find it strange that you hate Swindon so much when you supported us once. Multiple names and multiple teams. Very strange in fact.

[Gavan]

Pretty sure our run started with no Doyley or Morris against Wolves and then RR at 1 against BV. I find it strange that you hate Swindon so much when you supported us once. Multiple names and multiple teams. Very strange in fact.

just ignore whoever it is these days, Gater1, speedwayfanatic, poolefanatic.

 

I love how people think that a side that have topped the league easily and won 17 on the spin are over rated.

 

Swindon go into the play offs as favorites and Poole are outsiders........thats not to say Wolves and Belle Vue cant win it.

[noggin]

Moat neutrals want Belle Vue to win. Haha very good!!!

You have to laugh at these folk, who want to speak for everyone else all the time, neutral is exactly that, most I'd suggest want the best team to win, no one team deserves it more than another, best of luck to all four.

[Gavan]

You have to laugh at these folk, who want to speak for everyone else all the time, neutral is exactly that, most I'd suggest want the best team to win, no one team deserves it more than another, best of luck to all four.

Personally i always prefer the team that was top of the league to win the play offs.

 

I remember 1 season where both Poole and Peterborough made wholesale changes and roared up the table. Poole got 4th and won the title easily, same would have happened if Peterborough had made it.

 

At least now the signing of riders is stopped earlier in the season makes it a level playing field barring injuries.

[noggin]

Am I right in thinking the TR is scrapped in the play offs?

[foreverblue]

 

I know, brilliant isn't it![/quote

I expect most dont

[Steve0]

All 4 teams are now equal and the best team will emerge as champions:

 

Poole scraped in but they (and Coventry) have done that before and gone on to win it. They are definitely riding better now and are determined to get something out of this season where they went from favourites to also rans

 

Belle Vue have a "leftovers" team due to the lateness of them solving their ownership issues. Certainly weren't leftovers when announced and always look like top 4. I think their lack of home advantage and Max Fricke coming back from injury will be their downfall

 

Wolves have been performing well and consistently all season and at one point had a combined average equivalent to an extra heat leader over the lower teams (one of which was Swindon). Were hit by injuries and those riders are now back but not quite match fit - when they, they will be difficult to beat.

 

Swindon have had a great season - written off by almost everyone before a wheel had turned - to the point of being mocked by some. They were always one good rider away from having a successful team and Muesli changed that. Have had a record breaking run against good and not so good teams. Interesting to see that after being beaten in one meeting with half a team some people are writing them off again Their Achilles heel is a lack of reserves but if they pick the right riders would be a force. Write them off at your peril

 

Any of the 4 teams can win it - despite what some fans say. Bring it on (and COYR)

[stevebrum]

That's a pretty stupid comment in the circumstances. Confirmed by brum liking it, ha ha!

All neutrals think Belle Vue deserve to win. No neutrals want wolves to win, get over it.

Beyond deluded.

Thanks for confirming.

[bellevueace]

The doubts i have about Belle Vue are how Fricke will return after his injury and more than likely only having one scoring reserve, Wolves will also need Masters to overcome his recent injury but i see them as the team most likely not to give as much away on their own track wheras we can make hard work of it at the NSS, Wolves for me will do enough on home shale to carry them through two legged meetings, we do tend to go well round there but capitulated last season when it mattered the most. Wolves for me I'm afraid.

[stevebrum]

The doubts i have about Belle Vue are how Fricke will return after his injury and more than likely only having one scoring reserve, Wolves will also need Masters to overcome his recent injury but i see them as the team most likely not to give as much away on their own track wheras we can make hard work of it at the NSS, Wolves for me will do enough on home shale to carry them through two legged meetings, we do tend to go well round there but capitulated last season when it mattered the most. Wolves for me I'm afraid.

Wolves have lost 54-38 and 53-40 at the NSS this season.

At home we have won 48-42 and 49-41 at the Green.

 

Aces would be clear favourites from those stats.

Edited September 2, 2017 by stevebrum

[SUPERACE]

Wolves have lost 54-38 and 53-40 at the NSS this season.

At home we have won 48-42 and 49-41 at the Green.

 

Aces would be clear favourites from those stats.

I think if it is Aces v Wolves then it's too close to call. I think for various reasons we can improve our performance at wolves from last week but I also think wolves can improve from their last visit to the NSS.

 

As for the title itself a couple of weeks ago I didn't feel we had a chance. Our home form wasn't great, cook had gone completely the Fricke got injured and looked out for the season, bjerre had dipped form, and Jack Smith was scoring 0 after 0 at home.

 

But recently things have picked up just in time. Fricke is going to be back (although we don't know if he will be 100%), cook is absolutely flying again and looks his old aggressive self again, bjerre on his new engine was untouchable on Wednesday and Tungate is looking amazing around the the NSS, also Worrall has picked up form agsin after a dip, and in recent meeting Jack Smith has started to pick up some decent points at home. Away a full fit Aces will run any team close, the home form is crucial and it looks as though we might just be clicking at the right time.

[Perton Wolf]

Swindon - Poole

 

Belle vue - wolves

 

Poole and belle vue final with belle vue coming up Victors

 

A full belle vue 1-7 will blast anyone away. Tungate bjerre and fricke are all bringing there polish engines over and will fly round NSS.

They might fly around the NSS but their Polish engines won't be much use round Monmore.

[ouch]

Why? It's the truth, what had buster got to do with it? I saw my football team liquidated a number of years ago and they had to start again at the bottom. The Aces can think themselves lucky to be able to carry on in the top tier of British speedway

IT IS MOST CERTAINLY NOT THE TRUTH!!

 

The information is out there now on several threads on this forum. It doesn't need bring up in what is in the main a good natured debate about the play offs.

If after doing some homework you need anymore information, then I'll gladly have a pint (or pints) at The NSS and fill you in on some of the blanks.

They might fly around the NSS but their Polish engines won't be much use round Monmore.

I'd be happy if they used their wolves engines and lost by 6 or 8.