Polish Transfers 2018

[Trees]

So much easier when you have local authorities willing to help / fund you.

 

Polish clubs have their own dedicated stadiums, or at least access to them every day. Compare that to British clubs, who have a constant battle with NIMBYs and authorities.

 

How many authorities over here would be willing to let you have land to build a dedicated speedway track? How many restrictions would be imposed to appease the neighbours? Good luck in trying to access any funds / grants to help you.

 

Totally different attitude toward the sport in the two two countries.

 

It would be interesting to see how Polish 'promoters' would deal with our set of circumstances!!

[uk_martin]

Totally different attitude toward the sport in the two two countries.

Nobody is born with an attitude. An attitude is acquired. So what would be really interesting is to see why the attitude of the state and society towards speedway is so positive when the exact opposite is true here. Maybe in this analysis, there are lessons to be learned and applied.

[topsoil]

Nobody is born with an attitude. An attitude is acquired. So what would be really interesting is to see why the attitude of the state and society towards speedway is so positive when the exact opposite is true here. Maybe in this analysis, there are lessons to be learned and applied.

My own cynical mind says that, like nearly everything, it is down to money. But I would be interested to hear alternative theories.

[uk_martin]

My own cynical mind says that, like nearly everything, it is down to money. But I would be interested to hear alternative theories.

 

Money goes where money prospers...so what makes Polish speedway the place for money to prosper? What was it that at some time since liberation from communism, caused the money men to think..."ah-ha...speedway, that's a good place to invest"? And bear in mind at the outset of the post communist era, there wasn't that much money around. It had to be earned and it had to grow in value over the years. It's all very well people saying today that there is more money in Polish speedway, but they had to start from an almost empty bank account when the Berlin Wall fell, Lech Walesa became president and all that...

[f-s-p]

 

Money goes where money prospers...so what makes Polish speedway the place for money to prosper? What was it that at some time since liberation from communism, caused the money men to think..."ah-ha...speedway, that's a good place to invest"? And bear in mind at the outset of the post communist era, there wasn't that much money around. It had to be earned and it had to grow in value over the years. It's all very well people saying today that there is more money in Polish speedway, but they had to start from an almost empty bank account when the Berlin Wall fell, Lech Walesa became president and all that...

Who said the money came from a bank?

[iris123]

 

Money goes where money prospers...so what makes Polish speedway the place for money to prosper? What was it that at some time since liberation from communism, caused the money men to think..."ah-ha...speedway, that's a good place to invest"? And bear in mind at the outset of the post communist era, there wasn't that much money around. It had to be earned and it had to grow in value over the years. It's all very well people saying today that there is more money in Polish speedway, but they had to start from an almost empty bank account when the Berlin Wall fell, Lech Walesa became president and all that...

Not wanting to say that is nonsense,but of course it really is.You just have to look at some of the poor countries around the world run by dictators and there are people filling their pockets and bank balances up.Poland is in no way to be compared with such countries,so you can be sure there were always people with full bank accounts due to the massive corruption in the country.The country has major natural resources and that means someone gets rich.....But part of the reason is also that Poland couldn't really compete internationally with western countries at football and to do so costs much more money than directing it towards a fairly small sport like speedway....

 

 

Poland's rapid postwar industrialization was supported by a combination of readily available natural resources, especially economically important minerals. After the era of communist economics and politics ended in 1989, however, industrial policy makers contemplated major changes in the balance of resource consumption.

Minerals and Fuels

Coal is Poland's most important mineral resource. In 1980 total reserves were estimated at 130 billion tons. The largest coal deposits are located in Upper Silesia in the southwestern part of the country, where large-scale mining began in the nineteenth century. Silesian deposits, generally of high quality and easily accessible, accounted for about 75 percent of the country's hard coal resources and 97 percent of its extraction in the 1980s. The Lublin region of eastern Poland was exploited in the 1980s as part of an expansion program to supplement Silesian hard coal for industry and export. But development of this relatively poor, geologically difficult, and very expensive field ended in 1990. A number of unprofitable Upper Silesian mines also were to be closed in the early 1990s.

Poland also has significant quantities of lignite in the district of Zielona Góra in the west and in two districts located in the central part of the country between the Vistula and the Oder rivers. This low-quality fuel has been used on a large scale for the production of electricity, despite its very damaging effect on the environment. Plans called for gradual reduction of lignite extraction and use in the 1990s.

Natural gas is extracted mostly in Upper Silesia, Lower Silesia, and in the southeastern part of the country. Production expanded in the 1960s and 1970s, then declined in the next decade. In 1989 domestic production covered 43 percent of the country's total requirement.

A major offshore oilfield was discovered in the Baltic Sea in 1985. Including that field and the older fields in the Carpathian Mountains in southeastern Poland, total oil reserves were estimated at 100 million tons in 1990. Poland remained heavily dependent on the Soviet Union for petroleum throughout the 1980s.

Large reserves of sulfur at Tarnobrzeg and Staszów in the south-central region make that material Poland's most important nonmetallic export mineral. Favorable geological conditions have supported large-scale operations in three mines yielding about 5 million tons annually. About 3 million tons of sulfuric acid, along with several other chemicals, are produced each year.

Poland has limited deposits of some nonferrous metal ores. The most significant is copper, which is extracted in large quantities at ten mines in Lower Silesia in southwestern Poland. Copper production expanded greatly after discovery of major new deposits in the 1960s and 1970s. In 1990 annual copper ore output was about 26 million tons, and 51 percent of electrolytic copper was exported. In 1982 Poland had the world's fifth-largest deposits of lead and zinc (which occur in association). The annual output of lead and zinc ores was about 5 million tons, supporting annual production of 164 thousand tons of zinc and 78,000 tons of lead. In 1990 about 76 percent of Poland's zinc and nearly all its lead were used by domestic industry.

Although Poland had some fairly large iron ore deposits, this ore requires enrichment before processing. Until the 1970s, the main source of iron ore was the district of Czestochowa; but output there declined sharply in the early 1980s, and other deposits were of poor quality or provided such small quantities that exploitation was unprofitable. The country depended on iron imports from the Soviet Union and Sweden to support the rapid expansion of the steel industry that was a high priority in the communist era.

Rich deposits of salt provide an important raw material for the chemical industry. Salt mining, which began in the Middle Ages, was concentrated in the Wieliczka-Bochnia area near Kraków until the middle of the twentieth century; then the major saltmining operations moved to a large deposit running northwest from ód in central Poland. Salt is extracted in two ways: by removing it in solid form and by dissolving it underground, then pumping brine to the surface. Annual output declined from 6.2 million tons in 1987 and 1988 to 4.7 million tons in 1989. Other mineral resources include bauxite, barite, gypsum, limestone, and silver (a byproduct of processing other metals).

Agricultural Resources

Poland's climate features moderate temperatures and adequate rainfall that enable cultivation of most temperate-zone crops, including all the major grains, several industrial crops, and several varieties of fruit. Crops are distributed according to the substantial regional variations in soil and length of growing season. The sandy soils of the central plains are most suitable for rye, the richer soil in the south favors wheat and barley, and the poorer soil of the north is used for oats. All parts of Poland favor potato cultivation; sugar beets, the most important industrial crop, grow mainly in the west and southeast.

Corruption in Poland has declined over time in the recent years. In international rankings it is below the world average but not insignificant. Within Poland, surveys of Polish citizens reveal that it is perceived to be a major problem.

In the communist People's Republic of Poland, corruption was widespread, particularly by Polish United Workers Party officials (see nomenklatura).^[15][16][17] Corruption under the communist regime was so pervasive that some scholars have referred to the system as "legalized corruption"

Edited October 22, 2017 by iris123

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

 

Money goes where money prospers...so what makes Polish speedway the place for money to prosper? What was it that at some time since liberation from communism, caused the money men to think..."ah-ha...speedway, that's a good place to invest"? And bear in mind at the outset of the post communist era, there wasn't that much money around. It had to be earned and it had to grow in value over the years. It's all very well people saying today that there is more money in Polish speedway, but they had to start from an almost empty bank account when the Berlin Wall fell, Lech Walesa became president and all that...

and then they had the gift of tomasz gollob who pretty much brought Poland to the front of speedway world, we have a similar sort of thing in British speedway called tai woffinden who does the opposite

[Zenit]

Any fresh news about transfers?

[uk_martin]

Any fresh news about transfers?

 

Good point. Apologies for the digression.

[poolebolton]

Any fresh news about transfers?

Nicki P, Killer and Zengota all be released by Lezsno

 

Nicki P looks like he will go to Tarnow

 

Killer either GKM, Tarnow or even Rybnik

 

Zengota most like Z Gora

 

 

 

 

 

Hancock has been offered a new contract at Torun, but looks like he will turn it down. Most likely he will replace Doyle who will trade ZG for Torun.

 

 

 

C.Holder who looked likely to leave is now staying at Torun and most likely be joined by Doyle and NKI.

 

 

 

Kurtz and Fricke have yet to be signed, Fricke's only choice now is most likely Tarnow. Wroclaw dont want to spend 76K on the transfer fee.

 

 

Wroclaw are rumoured to be after Chugunov for there number 8 spot. (Think that could be an amazing signing). Wroclaw also after Musielak who seems to have offers from everyone.

 

 

Holta has an offer to join Torun and looks like he could take it.

 

 

 

 

Lingren, Fricke, killer and Kurtz wil be the interesting story to follow in the coming weeks.

 

 

Think we could see some big name riders in Nice League 1. Rybnik may keep the big riders together and walk the league.

[Triple.H.]

hope so leszno is my team and I dont like either holders

James Holder signing for Leszno.

[racers and royals]

James Holder signing for Leszno.

Or even Jack

[Triple.H.]

Or even Jack

No it's definitely James

[racers and royals]

No it's definitely James

Then it must be Leszno 2 which could be the new Rawicz(racing at Rawicz)

[eric i]

Is the only restriction to team building, 2 polish under 21 riders at reserve.

Edited October 22, 2017 by eric i

[racers and royals]

Is the only restriction to team building, 2 polish under 21 riders at reserve.

and 2 Poles in top 5

[poolebolton]

and 2 Poles in top 5

And your Number 8 rider must be u23.

 

Hearing Torun might also run a team in a lower league in the future.

 

Polish speedway going from strength to strength. Need to sell rights in Sweden, Denmark and UK then would be very successful.

 

 

 

Highest transfer fee in UK ever has been 60k which was Hans Andersen from Poole to Coventry.

 

Poland see anything less than 50K as cheap still.

[poolebolton]

Holta has just signed for Torun.

 

Going all out this year Torun.

 

1. Doyle

2. Pawel P

3. NKI

4. Holta

5. C.Holder

 

 

Its the reserves which are key though. Leszno, Wroclaw and Gorzow have the best reserves so will always be there or there about.

[tarkens]

poolebolton, anything on Thorsell and Michelsen?

[poolebolton]

poolebolton, anything on Thorsell and Michelsen?

Thorsell has been released by ZG. I doubt he will get a spot in the extraliga.

 

Michelsen I have seen or heard nothing. I guess he will not be keeping his spot in Tarnow. Will be snapped up in Nice League 1.