spin king Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 The point of Auty Steve finishing in the bottom two teams in both league's is a pretty low blow to be honest surely you look at merit.? Kyle last year was decent progressed but his PL average is still not yet as high as Auty's highest. PL average.Also in British Final's ect) Kyle rarely threatens where Auty is competetive mixes it even this year Auty ride's in the BLRC meeting was decent exciting he was unlucky not to reach semi's everyone to there own but Howarth away from Wolves is a risky prop on his average only my opinion though. Need to do you homework my friend. Premiership Kyle Howarth excluding bonus point last averaged Home; 6.74 Away; 6.72 Overall; 6.73 I think that shows that he is as good away from Monmore Green than he is at it. Josh Auty excluding bonus point last averaged Leicester Home; 5.00 Away; 3.00 Overall; 4.00 Kings Lynn Home 5.23 Away; 4.00 Overall; 4.76 Championship Kyle Howarth excluding bonus point last averaged Home; 8.95 Away; 8.15 Overall; 8.54 Kyle away average only bettered by (Nick Morris, Ricky Wells, Steve Worrall, Robert Lambert, Josh Grajczonek and Craig Cook) Josh Auty excluding bonus point last averaged Home; 7 .23 Away; 5.91 Overall; 6.90. Josh has a long way to go to catch Kyle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 The point of Auty Steve finishing in the bottom two teams in both league's is a pretty low blow to be honest surely you look at merit.? Kyle last year was decent progressed but his PL average is still not yet as high as Auty's highest. PL average.Also in British Final's ect) Kyle rarely threatens where Auty is competetive mixes it even this year Auty ride's in the BLRC meeting was decent exciting he was unlucky not to reach semi's everyone to there own but Howarth away from Wolves is a risky prop on his average only my opinion though. Of course it's only about opinion! I'm certainly not going to fall out with you because we see things different. It's been quite a few seasons since Auty was anything like a force in the 2nd tier and appears on the decline. He certainly hasn't had much look in his formative years in the top flight and injuries may have halted his progress. However that's similar to Kyle who was messed about by Poole early on and seemed to be in and out of favour in the top flight but the draft system has certainly seen him take advantage of that. Kyle is fine away, way better than Auty as it happens! I'm not really interested what riders do individually it's what they do for their teams which is more important and I'd rather have a rider scoring consistently for his teams than doing well in the one competition. I guess I'm more than happy for Kyle to be back next year and I'm sure you will be happy if you sign Auty as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 Great stats spinny. And the whole point is that Auty won't ever catch Howarth, he long since peaked and is on his way down whereas Howarth is still improving. They aren't even in the same bracket. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 Has anybody heard any news of the Supporters meeting this year, and when it is likely to be ?? I appreciate the AGM is this week but one assumes that is only to dot the I's and cross the T's. Most decisions will have been sorted before now.. As per normal the supporters are again being kept in the dark about everything that is relevant. You would've thought a sport in need of all the publicity it could get, would be drip feeding snip-bits of information on a regular basis. Like 'More news next week' just to keep the anticipation and connection with the fans.. I had hoped it would change, but it appears the promoters attitude of them and us is still very much in evidence.... and that's a shame.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Connor Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 Josh on his day is awesome! As we see at lynn this season. And I loved the way he spoke. Took responsibility and was very much thinking as a team man in his interviews. Very much a confidence rider. When he's good he's awesome. When he's not he struggles. But he never gives up. Even when he's beaten you often look to the people around you and say "he gave that a good go" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 Of course it's only about opinion! I'm certainly not going to fall out with you because we see things different. It's been quite a few seasons since Auty was anything like a force in the 2nd tier and appears on the decline. He certainly hasn't had much look in his formative years in the top flight and injuries may have halted his progress. However that's similar to Kyle who was messed about by Poole early on and seemed to be in and out of favour in the top flight but the draft system has certainly seen him take advantage of that. Kyle is fine away, way better than Auty as it happens! I'm not really interested what riders do individually it's what they do for their teams which is more important and I'd rather have a rider scoring consistently for his teams than doing well in the one competition. I guess I'm more than happy for Kyle to be back next year and I'm sure you will be happy if you sign Auty as well! Yes Steve i respect your view and i hope Kyle keeps on improving. I think Doyle has changed alot in speedway because he shows at whatever level you are at with luck and hard work you can improve even if it is only half a point or a point on your average. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 Yes Steve i respect your view and i hope Kyle keeps on improving. I think Doyle has changed alot in speedway because he shows at whatever level you are at with luck and hard work you can improve even if it is only half a point or a point on your average. It's finding the MMM and sticking with it. Magical Motivation Moment rather than "yeah, this will do". It's very like the motivation or focus needed for a successful diet. You have to keep at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 Yes Steve i respect your view and i hope Kyle keeps on improving. I think Doyle has changed alot in speedway because he shows at whatever level you are at with luck and hard work you can improve even if it is only half a point or a point on your average. Sometimes it's just about belief and motivation. I remember seeing Woffy pre season 2013 and you could tell and see that it was going to be his year.Doyle and Woffy are very much the type of riders that prove if you work hard enough there is the likelihood you will achieve. Something definitely changed with Kyle this season, hopefully that isn't his peak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 I think looking at their current averages Id pick Auty everyday, cant see the improvement in Howarth while I reckon Auty is good for a 1pt average increase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 I think looking at their current averages Id pick Auty everyday, cant see the improvement in Howarth while I reckon Auty is good for a 1pt average increase Auty has been dropping while Kyle has been adding to his average. I suppose that makes him a risk but if it was for a place in the main team I'd go with Kyle every time. Auty has barely been out the reserve berth! Plus we are comparing a main team rider/average with a reserve/rider average. Not even a fair consideration. Anyone that has over 6 points to play with would be mad to use Auty on his much lower average!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 Auty has been dropping while Kyle has been adding to his average. I suppose that makes him a risk but if it was for a place in the main team I'd go with Kyle every time. Auty has barely been out the reserve berth! Plus we are comparing a main team rider/average with a reserve/rider average. Not even a fair consideration. Anyone that has over 6 points to play with would be mad to use Auty on his much lower average!! Steve that is what i hate about speedway now it is a numbers game Kyle improves but he could be punished because others might be better value Bellego is another name that comes to mind.Going back to Auty he is capable of getting back over six points his terrible gating is his achilles heel Kings lynn or Belle Vue the two tracks i think that his figures would improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrss Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 I think looking at their current averages Id pick Auty everyday, cant see the improvement in Howarth while I reckon Auty is good for a 1pt average increase. You can't be serious! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Connor Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 If it wasn't a numbers game I would have neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 Steve that is what i hate about speedway now it is a numbers game Kyle improves but he could be punished because others might be better value Bellego is another name that comes to mind.Going back to Auty he is capable of getting back over six points his terrible gating is his achilles heel Kings lynn or Belle Vue the two tracks i think that his figures would improve. It's been that way for a while tho but yea it can be a frustrating process seeing who fits into the points limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted November 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 First one on board for 2018.Thomas Jorgensen.. Great to see him back.He deserved it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 First one on board for 2018.Thomas Jorgensen.. Great to see him back.He deserved it. He was confirmed weeks ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Kai Huckenbeck has confirmed he wont do the UK in 2018. Doing Poland, 2nd league Sweden and 2 leagues in Germany. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Kai Huckenbeck has confirmed he wont do the UK in 2018. Doing Poland, 2nd league Sweden and 2 leagues in Germany. Good news 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Yep not entirely displeased with that. Hopefully he'll come back in the future a more rounded competitor. One of those frustrating riders who could win a race against good opposition by quarter of a lap and then come last in his next heat against a poor line up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynnboy Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Yep not entirely displeased with that. Hopefully he'll come back in the future a more rounded competitor. One of those frustrating riders who could win a race against good opposition by quarter of a lap and then come last in his next heat against a poor line up. He was the new bob brhel in the making 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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