Haza Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 57 minutes ago, g13webb said: Talking about Stock Cars racing is irrelevant to the viability of Speedway. It may put extra coppers in the tin for any Stadium revamps, but if you are trying to tell me that Buster runs speedway out of the goodness of his heart then you're dreaming. Speedway has to run on its own identity and to that point it has to be viable. We talk about the lack of fans but are ignoring the reason why. Thinking along the lines that StockCars help Speedway to survive just disguises the fact of what has damaged the thinking, that speedway is OK. For the sport to survive on its own merits we have to forget about the Stock cars...... and address the real issues........ Definitely don’t want to forget stock cars because most definitely the stadium wouldn’t be viable without them it would have been flattened years ago - so if you’ve not got a stadium how do you run speedway ?? Stock cars are a very important part of KL how could the Stadium survive on 14 speedway meeting ?? Charge £30 to get in maybe . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 3 hours ago, dj350z said: ..........and the riders of the 50's!!! I've never before heard anyone blame riders as the sole reason for the decline of crowds. Having followed speedway since the mid 50's I can't say that I've ever thought that riders take fewer chances in any era. What I do think is that riders are no longer allowed to be characters, to react to on track incidents or to refereeing decisions and that has certainly had a detrimental affect on the overall entertainment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Aces51 said: I've never before heard anyone blame riders as the sole reason for the decline of crowds. Having followed speedway since the mid 50's I can't say that I've ever thought that riders take fewer chances in any era. What I do think is that riders are no longer allowed to be characters, to react to on track incidents or to refereeing decisions and that has certainly had a detrimental affect on the overall entertainment. I think one of the main problems is the conflict between modern machines and out of date tracks. Look at Belle Vue, it was designed for modern day machines and the racing is fabulous but some of the tracks that used to be brilliant are now less so, one example is Sheffield, it was great for decades but now it looks too narrow and just not right for modern machines. Some of the awkward little tracks (nowadays known as technical) are so b****y awful that I wouldn't go if I lived in the same road and admission was free. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 3 hours ago, Haza said: Definitely don’t want to forget stock cars because most definitely the stadium wouldn’t be viable without them it would have been flattened years ago - so if you’ve not got a stadium how do you run speedway ?? Stock cars are a very important part of KL how could the Stadium survive on 14 speedway meeting ?? Charge £30 to get in maybe . I get the impression your whole opinion is based around kings Lynn, whereas all my arguments are directed at the sport in general. Had the sport been run properly and not as some back street company , all these problems about the, lack of fans, and tracks closing, could have been addressed. when it happened. With only 14 meetings a year, it is a major problem, one that should and could have been sorted, but again decision were based on personal preferences rather than the good of the sport. Kings Lynn are in an enviable situation owning their own stadium. Nobody is suggesting it be used for speedway only, any proprietor would want anything and everything going on to make the ownership a success. Speedway is only one of many attractions that use the Stadium. Speedway needs to be self sufficient. If we hadn't got a Stadium then we would have to rent one, either way, the sport needs to pay its way..,,,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLFAN Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 I think all King's Lynn supporters know if it were not for the Stock Car Racing (i am not a fan of) then in all probability there would be no speedway at KL. We are left with a dichotomy in that although the race track is affected because of the Stock Cars i am afraid that it is the compromise we have to live with. I think we should all get behind the team and give them as much support as possible and start making negative comments if they are required due to poor performances. Looking forward to Wednesday when hopefully we can get the season of with a win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted April 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) They also rent the stadium for flat track racing and drift cars I believe.It all helps the speedway to continue. Here's a clip form this weekends Flat Track racing at Lynn..The track looked ok considering the rain we had leading up to the w/end. Edited April 12, 2018 by Bald Bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potman Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 On 11/04/2018 at 11:44 AM, dj350z said: ..........and the riders of the 50's!!! This is only a small part of the problem, tracks and bikes are the main reason, along with the overall "show" experience which is lacking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 A good score for Lambert guessing at number one for Leicester tonight. He's also had a couple of double figure returns in Poland so an encouraging start to the season. Must be getting out of the gate more efficiently and regularly. May be this will be his breakthrough season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted April 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: A good score for Lambert guessing at number one for Leicester tonight. He's also had a couple of double figure returns in Poland so an encouraging start to the season. Must be getting out of the gate more efficiently and regularly. May be this will be his breakthrough season? Lets hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 to me what Kings Lynn and the sport in general is missing is fun. used to be able to go to speedway, have fun, have a drink with the riders in the bar after, and actually feel part of it. the PL days were brilliant, not just because of the trophies, but the atmosphere too, all the themed nights in the summer brought out people dressing up, banner competitions, lots going on, and it was good fun 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, stevehone said: to me what Kings Lynn and the sport in general is missing is fun. used to be able to go to speedway, have fun, have a drink with the riders in the bar after, and actually feel part of it. the PL days were brilliant, not just because of the trophies, but the atmosphere too, all the themed nights in the summer brought out people dressing up, banner competitions, lots going on, and it was good fun A few other things are missing JC and Mike Bennett and the enthusiasm of Rob Lyon and Buster all have never been replaced . To me the last two or tree seasons we’ve just gone through the motions get to the end of the season ASAP .Its almost speedway gets in the way of the real money spinner stock cars . Edited April 17, 2018 by Haza 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 In Business the thing that brings in you in the least amount profit is given the least amount of time and effort. Understandable I would suggest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, semion said: In Business the thing that brings in you in the least amount profit is given the least amount of time and effort. Understandable I would suggest. Absolutely spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) The King's Lynn thread, aka the 'pit of misery' Dilly dilly! Edited April 17, 2018 by Bagpuss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: The King's Lynn thread, aka the 'pit of misery' Dilly dilly! Which has been breed by poor promoting and p!$$ poor meeting management. Up to the promotion to turn things around, nobody else. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 And to be fair the Hot Laps (if they happen) are a small step in the right direction. Its a long walk tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Daniel Smith said: Which has been breed by poor promoting and p!$$ poor meeting management. Up to the promotion to turn things around, nobody else. Don't disagree but sooner or later people have to stop raking over old ground, wipe the slate clean and allow the club to make amends though. I was trying to lighten the mood a bit really as it was all becoming a bit depressing. Hopefully this time on Thursday the comments will all be upbeat because at the end of the day we all want the club to succeed and to be a positive place to go don't we? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Its been a long wait, so hopefully a decent crowd will flock into Saddlebow Road and see all the changes that Robin Brundle and Buster have put in place. I really hope they have turned it around and people enjoy the whole experience ( win lose or draw). 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 On 17/04/2018 at 11:36 AM, Star Lady said: And to be fair the Hot Laps (if they happen) are a small step in the right direction. Its a long walk tho Okay, so I must of missed something.... Hot laps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 19 minutes ago, Najjer said: Okay, so I must of missed something.... Hot laps? Discussed on KL vs Belle Vue thread. Basically Lynn riders doing 3 times flying laps at 7pm ahead of the meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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