Starman2006 Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Please tell me why. Not that you will come up with anything of any logic. Because they are not the force they were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytsejam Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 What utter tripe of a meeting and another embarrassment once more for British speedway. The last race sums it all up really, red flag out when the fallen rider had already cleared the track!!..... At least it brought a (slightly) early ending to the shambles, I guess! BT must be really hoping that it pours next Monday and then they won't have to show the second leg farce as they will then no doubt find that that have "no space in their schedules" to cover the re-staging!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Because they are not the force they were. But still top flight standard riders. Did Kyle Newman really just say Leicester would be in the Play Offs if they started with that team? ?? You're in the RIGHT play offs Kyle. Leicester have improved mid season but not top 4 level. Nice comedy moment. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner47 Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Cant see how some think there's a big gulf between the divisions when Ipswich riders did a lot of the damage. Just hope they can do the same on Thursday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) Well done everyone on BT sport tonight for some oscar winning performances . Trying to make us believe we have been watching a team who were genuily trying to get promoted. Sheffield have had 15 years to move up to the top division and have declined every time although this year was different and they actually wanted to move up ,yeah right Sheffield Unbeaten at home all year and going through the tapes like rabbits in the headlights , very convenient, an absolute walloping. But well done to Natalie, Nigel and Kelvin for keeping it going when we were watching nothing more than a pantomime, roll on the 2nd leg next week. Only problem for Sheffield is finding a new race night for next year. Tonight was a further embarrassment to the sport Very Much So Edited October 9, 2017 by New Science Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Monster Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Cant see how some think there's a big gulf between the divisions when Ipswich riders did a lot of the damage. Just hope they can do the same on Thursday.There is only one Leicester rider that doesn't ride in the championship. The difference is that you have better riders at the lower end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Cant see how some think there's a big gulf between the divisions when Ipswich riders did a lot of the damage. Just hope they can do the same on Thursday.The difference being they occupy positions (by average) 3 6 and 7 at Leicester but 1 3 and 5 at Ipswich.Do agree and hope they can perform to that standard on Thursday too though 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 So it looks like Sheffield wont win the promotion battle (by some distance). So that means they wont be in the Premiership next season except this is Speedway and anything can happen the premership as some want to call it is that poor any club who wants to join only has to ask Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 But still top flight standard riders. Did Kyle Newman really just say Leicester would be in the Play Offs if they started with that team? ?? You're in the RIGHT play offs Kyle. Leicester have improved mid season but not top 4 level. Nice comedy moment. But still top flight standard riders. IIn this league maybe, but they are not the force they were whichever way you want to look to look at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 IIn this league maybe, but they are not the force they were whichever way you want to look to look at it. Which was my point. They are still good enough in the current watered down top flight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Some of the comments on here are so far off the mark they are untrue. Sheffield, as like any other speedway team, were always going to struggle when their top two riders are missing. and so it turned out. I have always liked Sheffield's track, and have seen some unbelievable racing there. Because of recent usage and poor weather, last night it was not conducive for good racing and favours the gaters. That was not a true reflection on the standard of racing that can be seen there. There were still one or two good races with stunning moves round the boards though.... The gulf between the two leagues is getting smaller each year, I believe Nilsson was the only Leicester rider who don't ride in the 2nd division, and all the rest have vast experience of Sheffield track. Apart from the missing riders, the biggest difference last night was the quality of the reserves. Had the two teams swapped their 6/7's, the result would have been much closer. I thought Graversen and Wood struggled to show through, although Graversen did pick it up by the end. Not having been to Owlerton since Michael Lee was racing the likes of Dougie Wyer, Reg Wilson, Bob Valentine, Arnold Haley and Bengt Larsson it brought back some wonderful memories of the days when speedway had a true chevalier existence......... . Having seen all the current tracks used in the top league, they have nothing to be afraid of. I for one would love to see Sheffield back in the top division, a place where they belong.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odds On Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 which ever way you debate this it was a dreadful advert for the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 The difference that showed was that the Leicester riders were nearly always at the first bend in front and this is the principle difference between the leagues in my view. Passing was definitely at a premium though and when a Sheffield rider gated they also did well. Well done to Leicester - is Sheffield always a gate and go place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyb Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 The difference that showed was that the Leicester riders were nearly always at the first bend in front and this is the principle difference between the leagues in my view. Passing was definitely at a premium though and when a Sheffield rider gated they also did well. Well done to Leicester - is Sheffield always a gate and go place? The main difference was having two heat leaders from the Championship at reserve for Leicester, and one a guest! If they had NL riders at 6 and 7 there would have been a big difference. That shows the farce of the thing. AND will Bjerre be riding for Leicester next week. Perhaps Nicholls will swap sides as well. All adds up to the joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Seeing as the aim of British Speedway is for the top 2 leagues to be closer in team strengths, can we expect a further watering down of the top league next year? If people thought that was dull... they should have been at the Pairs the day before, a total borefest Comedy moment of the night for me was when Josh Bates mentioned in his interview that he also rode for Leicester, he obviously hadn't read the script... he mentioned it once, but he think he got away with it, I half expected to see a tumbleweed blow across the screen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 They don't want the inconvenience of riding in our leagues for the money we can afford to pay , got nothing to do with racenights , offer more money than Poland and they would be glad to ride here on Sundays if the was the big payday . you live in a bit of a fantasy if you think any of them would ride for the sake of gratitude or loyalty , these people are what in the modern era call themselves speedway riders .they are a far cry from real speedway riders of old though . Switched it off after 8 heats , wont be bothering at all next Monday. dissapointing as I have seen some cracking racing at Sheffield Nobody, least of all me, has ever suggested that the riders would ride here instead of Poland, It was always a scenario of 'and' , not 'instead of'. So it has everything to do with racenights If we were to arrange our fixtures on different night than the Poles, the Swedes and the Danes then probably top riders would have continued to ride here. That was before the Poles put a 3 team restriction on their riders..... The only fantasy here, is what you thought I wrote, instead of the actual comment. I am so aware that most riders are grabbing Ba-----ds and care nothing for the sport, only what they earn..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpandroid Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Enjoyed watching the people in tigers uniform getting beat, unfortunately teams don't exist these days, just a group of riders in the same vests, the people in Lions vests rode very well. Looking forward to a similar thing happening next monday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 OK guys and gals - how many times will Woffy get a mention on BT Sports tonight?! Ok I own up. I couldn't count the 'Woffys' as I kept nodding off. But I was also surprised at the number of times Nigel said Yes very much so' after Kelvin had made a decent observation - well into double figures!! - And that was only in the bits I was actually awake for!! I'm not sure whats worse - the fact that I started counting or that I'm sharing it on here??! Roll on March 2018. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justathought Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Actually I thought the meeting was about par for the course. No better or worse than 100’s of others I have seen both on TV and live. Ask yourself, seriously, looking at the two teams on the night what did you expect. I’m afraid that is the way modern day speedway in the uk is. There is very little or nothing you can do to change it. No one is forcing anyone to go or watch it on TV . It’s your choice, if it upsets you that much go and find another sport to support. If there isn’t sufficient interest and financial return to run teams on a professional basis in the uk, then so be it. It is what it says on the tin...........it’s up to you if you buy the tin or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemuppet Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 result of last night's three team tournament was Ipswich 37 Sheffield 32 Leicester 22 Well done to Ipswich who will now be promoted 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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