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Great win for the Bears. Pushed all the way by a determined Monarchs team. Very close racing throughout, after what looked after 3 heats to be a cakewalk for the Bears...not a bit of it. A great advert for Championship speedway. Glad to see Ricky and Ty walk away from nasty falls, Josh too. The air fences did their job tonight.

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Enjoyed visit to STMP as always, great track.

Long tail again caught us out, Bears strength in depth won thru, Ricky a class apart.

Max low on confidence and after briefly showing in heat 2, reverted to type, sad to watch and probably needs a rest and to think where he goes next.

maybe we need to get Theo to get a Uk passport........Carrie can sort that, after all with a surname of Pijper, he must have Scottish ancestry. Either that or Jock Sedgmen for next year....????

 

4th place still up for grabs, whoever loses least at home between these two will claim it , but be cannon fodder for Sheffield in the play off semi.

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Just read the report on Monarchs website, full marks to Graham Muncie who produced this, I think it is the fairest and most accurate report I have read from a team losing away, as the texter at the meeting, he has picked up on all the points I noted, highlighted where Monarchs were weak, and where they were strong. No excuses made and praised the better team on the evening.

 

Well Done!

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Cheers Northyorksbear, while I was a little disappointed by certain aspects of the Monarchs performance I left the Media Prime thoroughly entertained and what more can you ask for and I always feel you need to give credit where it is due and last night that was to many parties.

 

I've been going to see the Monarchs at Redcar since you guys reopoened and every visit I get more and more impressed by the facilities and atmosphere. That looked to be a decent crowd last night and everyone I spoke to from the person on the gate right through to Kevin Keau could not have been friendlier and helpful. More power to them.

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For the Bears to reach the play offs I'm guessing win all home meetings and four points from the two meetings at Newcastle. Its not going to be easy.

Very difficult, I hate going to Newcastle, the track is still terrible but Worrall & Lambert ride it well , our main hope there is that the reserves score heavily, can't see Ben , Jason is Charles scoring well there. Be happy with a couple of points.

 

Reserves were again a major factor in last nights victory plus that terrific ride from JBA to get around Riss

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Trying to make the Newcastle meeting 3rd of September. Awful track, it maddens me that the MPA is made to be such a fair track to both sides, most will, I think, agree that along with Scunny's' EWR they are the best tracks in the league. Why can't others make it so ? Over to you Mr English.

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Trying to make the Newcastle meeting 3rd of September. Awful track, it maddens me that the MPA is made to be such a fair track to both sides, most will, I think, agree that along with Scunny's' EWR they are the best tracks in the league. Why can't others make it so ? Over to you Mr English.

The guy who does yours does ours as well. :lol:

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The big problem at Newcastle is the shape, needs widening all around therefore reducing the straights length

We took the 1st and 2nd bends in 2 metres in about 1999, and Mad Dog said we had ruined the track. We could take 2 metres off all 4 bends and the straights would still be long.

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We took the 1st and 2nd bends in 2 metres in about 1999, and Mad Dog said we had ruined the track. We could take 2 metres off all 4 bends and the straights would still be long.

 

In all fairness 1999 is a long time ago, man and machine have moved on a lot since then. Modern bikes can reach quite a speed on the Newcastle straights which creates a problem getting round the corners, or if your not so brave it means shutting off halfway down the straight.

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Well, there you go. I didn't know that. Every day we learn. Thanks for the info.

I am referring to Jonny Swales who is our Track Curator. He also is second man to your usual TC, and he has been there whenever I have been this year. I think the new promotion had a better chance of getting him back than the previous. :P

 

In all fairness 1999 is a long time ago, man and machine have moved on a lot since then. Modern bikes can reach quite a speed on the Newcastle straights which creates a problem getting round the corners, or if your not so brave it means shutting off halfway down the straight.

Yes. The added speed with the new breed of laydowns means you have to know how to turn the bike more so that at rounder tracks. Edinburgh, Lakeside, ipswich, etc, all have the need to turn the bike hard, but they don't have such long straights. The only compatible track to us was the previous Belle Vue at Kirky Lane.

 

In saying that I still don't get the 'thing' about the banked 3rd and 4th bends at Redcar. Done apparently on Havvy jnr's request it was tying to recreate the same corners at Odsal. Very rarely seen any real genuine passing as if the outside guy is flat out, he is never going to catch the inside rider flat out as well. It might be fast but it's not racing. Seen more serious crashes coming off the 4th bend at speed, in the earlier days, than any other track I have been to. 1st and 2nd are genuine corners for racing, after the bends were reworked under Glyn.

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I am referring to Jonny Swales who is our Track Curator. He also is second man to your usual TC, and he has been there whenever I have been this year. I think the new promotion had a better chance of getting him back than the previous. :P

Yes. The added speed with the new breed of laydowns means you have to know how to turn the bike more so that at rounder tracks. Edinburgh, Lakeside, ipswich, etc, all have the need to turn the bike hard, but they don't have such long straights. The only compatible track to us was the previous Belle Vue at Kirky Lane.

 

In saying that I still don't get the 'thing' about the banked 3rd and 4th bends at Redcar. Done apparently on Havvy jnr's request it was tying to recreate the same corners at Odsal. Very rarely seen any real genuine passing as if the outside guy is flat out, he is never going to catch the inside rider flat out as well. It might be fast but it's not racing. Seen more serious crashes coming off the 4th bend at speed, in the earlier days, than any other track I have been to. 1st and 2nd are genuine corners for racing, after the bends were reworked under Glyn.

What are you using there, Daiwa, Korda or maybe Nash? :rolleyes:

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