ABS Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 Lol! Faced with the incontrovertible evidence of the devastating effect the qualifier and cup format has had on attendances hardly anybody bothers to defend it anymore! The crowds for the qualifiers have been hit really hard this season. Great example was at Leicester on Saturday. There would have been several coach loads of Aces fans had the result mattered but it didn't. Belle Vue would have been rammed tonight and Friday but both gates will be less than average (only around 400 advanced grandstand tickets sold for tonight!), just like last season our attendances have dropped off a cliff after pretty much assuring qualification. Add in that last years cup winners are having to sell riders to make up for their crap support as their fans can't be bothered supporting their team because "is all about what happens in the playoffs". Even the unusual suspects have wound their necks in when it comes to the super dooper qualifier and cup format. Think City vs Everton will have the biggest impact on the gate. Travel to BV for a 7:30 start is a bit of a nightmare with City game at 8 - looking at alternative routes for tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 You couldn't answer this last time but what is the point of something being important if it doesn't attract more fans? ?? The coaches of fans from Belle Vue wouldn't have been there to support Leicester but, as was always the case, when a team fighting for top (if we can sneak a win tonight Belle Vue will be top of both their leagues again) is in town a big crowd was guaranteed, not anymore though. Fans who think top is still important don't bother in the same numbers as they used to for some reason. I can always rely on you to rubbish stir. You won't be top tonight as Swindon are riding at home against Kings Lynn. I know the fans from Belle Vue wouldn't be there to support Leicester, I meant as you were riding against a crap team it would not inspire many to go and watch a one sided meeting. Numbers have reduced drastically in recent years, in my view many get excited by the start of the season but by the end of the season enthusiasm wanes. The play offs themselves attract more fans but even the play offs don't seem to attract as many fans as they have in previous years, I don't know the answer to get the lost fans back but I don't think getting rid of the play offs is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 I know it doesn't matter but we did win and we are top of both our leagues, for the next few minutes at least.If it doesnt matter why mention it your not top now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelvinht Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 So, BT sport announced the playoff finals are now first week of October. Does that mean 'semi finals' will be 18th and 25th. So cut off can be around 14th? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 So, BT sport announced the playoff finals are now first week of October. Does that mean 'semi finals' will be 18th and 25th. So cut off can be around 14th? Final has been brought forward, was originally 9 & 11 October, now. 2 & 4. Semi finals were 11, 18 & 25 which was bit strange. Can't see why they couldn't just do 18 & 25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 Final has been brought forward, was originally 9 & 11 October, now. 2 & 4. Semi finals were 11, 18 & 25 which was bit strange. Can't see why they couldn't just do 18 & 25 Because they then have 3 broadcast dates instead of 2, 4 would have been better but that is up to BT. It does seem strange bringing the finals back from 9 and 11 to 2 and 4, as if there is bad weather etc in the next week or so, many clubs will not finish all their meetings in time for the semis. It would have been better to have the semis later and keep the 9th and 11th as an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 I gather BT aren't keen to do what Sky used to do with the semi-finals ie show both on the same night!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 I gather BT aren't keen to do what Sky used to do with the semi-finals ie show both on the same night!! Maybe they have only got one set of cameras 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 I gather BT aren't keen to do what Sky used to do with the semi-finals ie show both on the same night!! Good! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 I agree!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 You couldn't answer this last time but what is the point of something being important if it doesn't attract more fans? Did you see the crowd last night for in your eyes an in important fixture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 You appear to have regressed to a time before the qualifier and cup format was introduced. You couldn't answer this last time but what is the point of something being important if it doesn't attract more fans? It clearly did attract more fans last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 (edited) If you're talking about Swindon then there may have been another reason for the increased attendance? If you're talking about Belle Vue it was one of the lowest attendances of the season. You couldn't answer this last time but what is the point of something being important if it doesn't attract more fans? Well we must like the play offs more in the south! As I have said before if a meeting looks like a very one sided contest attendances are down. Edited August 22, 2017 by foreverblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 It clearly did attract more fans last night Excellent crowd. Lakeside got 8k in a few years back but never got near it again. Whatever Swindon and Lakeside did to get these bumper crowds needs replicating up and down the country all season but will they? Rant over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 If you're talking about Swindon then there may have been another reason for the increased attendance? £5 Excellent crowd. Lakeside got 8k in a few years back but never got near it again. Whatever Swindon and Lakeside did to get these bumper crowds needs replicating up and down the country all season but will they? Rant over. Free entry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 (edited) Lol! You didn't think that one through either. You couldn't answer this last time but what is the point of something being important if it doesn't attract more fans? Because it does attract more fans. Swindon fans have a winning team so fans are excited by their team and more go. Belle vue meeting was always going to be a easy win for them so less turn up, that would happen anyway play offs or not. Play offs are usually exciting meetings and judging by last night at Swindon they will be packed, i don't think it was just the 5 pound entry why so many turned up last night. Edited August 22, 2017 by foreverblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 The promoters are promoting these televised meetings more so, it seems, than any others. Of course the price will sell the meetings, they won't want to lose money. I hope they might risk the £10 meetings, kids free, for all their summer meetings? What is the chance? Do they do it from the start of the season? Set their wages with bonuses to the riders if the crowds flock in, all a risk, sounds good though but it's their money not mine .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Are the second legs being shown on the same night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Lol! The Swindon promoters must be kicking themselves, they get one of their biggest crowds of the season (because their fans are 'excited' ha ha!) and they only charged a fiver for them to get in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Lol! The Swindon promoters must be kicking themselves, they get one of their biggest crowds of the season (because their fans are 'excited' ha ha!) and they only charged a fiver for them to get in! As I said I don't think it was just the fiver entry why so many turned up but obviously had an impact on the attendance. Win Win! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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