daveallan81 Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 While we are on the subject of seven ride performances, I seem to remember John Boulger picking up 20 points in one meeting - and the team (can't remember if it was Leicester or Cradley) won 40-38! I believe this is the only time one man has scored as many points as the rest of the team, and finished on the winning side. EDIT - Just found it. In 1976, Cradley beat Reading 40-38, with Boulger recording a 21 point max... Steve I wonder in how many seasons that feat was possible. Interesting to note that Cradley were never behind in that match. Kenny McKinna recorded 20+1(7) at Berwick 11th September 1982. Only 19 years old at the time, youngest ever 7-ride max? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 Hiya Sid thanks for that I remember it well, well nearly.lol. I was at the Boulger meeting as well against Reading and nearly remember that. Lol. If my memory carries on like this il wake up one morning and have forgotten who went to bedDid you get to see Ivor Brown or was he before your time "bruno? Boulger and Persson were my favourites (1972 still hard to forget though Wembley) i also liked Andrews ,Gooddy,Trigg, and later Dave Perks.Then the glory days arrived Gundo, King were my favourites from that great era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 I wonder in how many seasons that feat was possible. Interesting to note that Cradley were never behind in that match. Good question! I just wonder how and why it was possible then - seven rides, with no tac subs??? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveallan81 Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 Good question! I just wonder how and why it was possible then - seven rides, with no tac subs??? Steve You could take 2 r/r rides (and a tactical sub ride if necessary). The rule changed at the end of 1977. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 You could take 2 r/r rides (and a tactical sub ride if necessary). The rule changed at the end of 1977. Yes, but you said Cradley were never behind! That is why I said, " seven rides, with no tac subs??? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BL65 Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 Yes, but you said Cradley were never behind! That is why I said, " seven rides, with no tac subs??? Steve In 1976 a rider with a lower average than the one for which R/R was operated could take 3 extra rides. Ironically, Boulger's average had increased above that of Persson by the following week and he would then have been restricted to just one R/R ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 In 1976 a rider with a lower average than the one for which R/R was operated could take 3 extra rides. Ironically, Boulger's average had increased above that of Persson by the following week and he would then have been restricted to just one R/R ride. Which means that with T/S a rider could have eight rides in 13 races. There may be others, but Bernie Leigh certainly came out 8 times for Reading at Newport that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BL65 Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 (edited) Bruce Cribb took 3 of the R/R rides for Boulger at home against Swindon in April 1976, scoring 8 points from them in his total of 17 from 7 rides, in another match the Heathens won 40-38. Bruce also took 3 R/R rides for the absent Persson in October 1976 in the home meeting against Ipswich, giving him an extra 6 points in his total of paid 16 from 7 rides. Cribb was a busy man that season taking 8 rides in the Midland Cup match at Coventry in April (3 R/R for Boulger and a tactical ride) and 7 rides at Exeter in May (including 3 R/R for Persson). Boulger also had 8 rides at Coventry in the league match in August, including a tactical ride and 3 replacement rides for Persson. Edited August 22, 2017 by BL65 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 In 1976 a rider with a lower average than the one for which R/R was operated could take 3 extra rides. Ironically, Boulger's average had increased above that of Persson by the following week and he would then have been restricted to just one R/R ride.Aaahhhh... Thank you so much for that! I honestly don't recall that rule (it obviously wasn't used a great deal), but I was only 14 in 1976... Sounds a bit weird now (not that there are any other weird rules in speedway) but I would say that is preferable to filling a team with a bunch of guests... Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 If I recall Henny Kroeze was the first rider to register a seven ride maximum (21 points) during the period under discussion when Halifax operated the R/R regulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 I may be off topic in this thread, but in the 1947 season didn't Vic Duggan (Australia and Harringay) have more than 20 consecutive race wins (league matches, second-half heats and finals) from April into May? His run was only ended when then Wembley novice Split Waterman shocked the sport by beating the Australian maestro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 I may be off topic in this thread, but in the 1947 season didn't Vic Duggan (Australia and Harringay) have more than 20 consecutive race wins (league matches, second-half heats and finals) from April into May? His run was only ended when then Wembley novice Split Waterman shocked the sport by beating the Australian maestro. If we are going to digress, what about Hans Nielsen? Away from home, he was unbeaten for the entire 1986 league season! Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 I may be off topic in this thread, but in the 1947 season didn't Vic Duggan (Australia and Harringay) have more than 20 consecutive race wins (league matches, second-half heats and finals) from April into May? His run was only ended when then Wembley novice Split Waterman shocked the sport by beating the Australian maestro. If we are going to digress, what about Hans Nielsen? Away from home, he was unbeaten for the entire 1986 league season! Steve Well said chunky! What is the reason then for this thread being on a 10 race factor! BTW I never knew that about Hans Nielsen. A most interesting comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BL65 Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 I may be off topic in this thread, but in the 1947 season didn't Vic Duggan (Australia and Harringay) have more than 20 consecutive race wins (league matches, second-half heats and finals) from April into May? His run was only ended when then Wembley novice Split Waterman shocked the sport by beating the Australian maestro. The records show that the winning run by Vic Duggan was not April/May, but started on 23rd May, with his sequence of 39 winning rides ending with a defeat by Bill Longley on 11th June. Split Waterman beat Duggan in a scratch race final on 29th August, but that only ended a sequence of 7 consecutive wins for Vic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Returning to an earlier tangential splinter in this thread. Did Josh Auty set a new record tonight, albeit in unusual circumstances? He scored 13 out of his team's total of 21 (or 11 out of 19 if we ignore the TR double). 62% (or 58%). Maybe not one to shout about eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BL65 Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Returning to an earlier tangential splinter in this thread. Did Josh Auty set a new record tonight, albeit in unusual circumstances? He scored 13 out of his team's total of 21 (or 11 out of 19 if we ignore the TR double). 62% (or 58%). Maybe not one to shout about eh? I remember that in 1966 Roy Trigg scored 11 out of 15 for Hackney in a league match at Oxford which was abandoned after 6 heats. In the re-staging he scored 17 out of 27. Little surprise when he joined Oxford the following season. 28 out of 42 (67%) was not a bad effort over the two meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveallan81 Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 Steve Lawson scored 16 out of 23 (69.56%) for Glasgow at Arena Essex in 1985. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 Well said chunky! What is the reason then for this thread being on a 10 race factor! BTW I never knew that about Hans Nielsen. A most interesting comment. I would suggest the reason for the 10 race factor is that while double headers are quite commonplace I can't think of any triple headers? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 Forgot this but it just came back to me in 1980 at the Abbey in the KO cup Gordon Kennett scored a full 21 point max and Kai Niemi scored 19points also.Those two scored 40 points between them out of a 46 team total , cant remember exactly maybe D.Allan would know.? Swindon rode Belle Vue a few times in the cup 1981 i think ????? Collins and Morton scored heavily Belle Vue were quite weak then they operated R/R for Derek Richardsson who was on a crazy average i think Collins got 19.? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 If we are going to digress, what about Hans Nielsen? Away from home, he was unbeaten for the entire 1986 league season! Steve I thought of mentioning this a few times but decided it was off topic. I guess you were waiting for someone to go off-topic too so you could mention it! Hans' 12 point away average will, I suspect, never be repeated. It was quite a small league that year I remember, with half the season taken up by the League Cup. Even so, remarkable. Never seen another rider of Neilsen's standard in league racing. Not even Mauger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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