IainB Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 Anybody any idea what selection of riders can be bothered to turn up for this match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregoryM Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 Anybody any idea what selection of riders can be bothered to turn up for this match? No Belle Vue heat leaders there anyway, and with Tungate probably missing too its not much of a Belle Vue team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 R/R for Cook, Nicholls for Fricke and Starke for Tungate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justathought Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 WATLING JCB LIONS: Kim Nilsson, Erik Riss, Lasse Bjerre, R/R for Danny King, Richie Worrall, Josh Bates, Todd Kurtz. BELLE VUE: Kenneth Bjerre, R/R for Craig Cook, Steve Worrall, Paul Starke, Scott Nicholls, Dan Bewley, Jack Smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bump Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 Thought that we'd have had ex-lion Paul Starke lined up along time ago for this fixture as Newman's replacement. Surprised he's lining up for Belle Vue. Missed a trick there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 Come on the Aces/Pirates/Rockets.. Hope Paul and Scott can score enough points to consolidate the Aces' position in the top four and at the same time reduce their own teams' chances of catching the Aces in the League.. Cannot wait... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethelion Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 Can anybody clarify the situation with Lions having Richie Worrall guesting in place of Pawel Przedpelski. Pawel has an assessed average of 7.00, which you can't add 5% for a home rider missing because assessed riders can't have the 5% added, clearly stated at the top of the page in the GSA's( although up until the latest release Pawel's figure did show the +5% for some reason). Richie Worrall has a Premiership average of 7.26 from his time at Poole, which is too high, but because he no longer rides in the Premiership are Lions using his Championship average of 8.64 converted by whatever the figure is. The rules for guesting state that if a rider has got a Premier & Championship average the higher average should be used. Can anyone explain who knows more about it than me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 Can anybody clarify the situation with Lions having Richie Worrall guesting in place of Pawel Przedpelski. Pawel has an assessed average of 7.00, which you can't add 5% for a home rider missing because assessed riders can't have the 5% added, clearly stated at the top of the page in the GSA's( although up until the latest release Pawel's figure did show the +5% for some reason). Richie Worrall has a Premiership average of 7.26 from his time at Poole, which is too high, but because he no longer rides in the Premiership are Lions using his Championship average of 8.64 converted by whatever the figure is. The rules for guesting state that if a rider has got a Premier & Championship average the higher average should be used. Can anyone explain who knows more about it than me? team manager picks the guests , they also choose when and who goes for the double tactical .. say no more . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 Can anybody clarify the situation with Lions having Richie Worrall guesting in place of Pawel Przedpelski. Pawel has an assessed average of 7.00, which you can't add 5% for a home rider missing because assessed riders can't have the 5% added, clearly stated at the top of the page in the GSA's( although up until the latest release Pawel's figure did show the +5% for some reason). Richie Worrall has a Premiership average of 7.26 from his time at Poole, which is too high, but because he no longer rides in the Premiership are Lions using his Championship average of 8.64 converted by whatever the figure is. The rules for guesting state that if a rider has got a Premier & Championship average the higher average should be used. Can anyone explain who knows more about it than me? I think this is covered by the... "Look to be honest we haven't got a clue anymore what the rules are, just say it's OK if anyone asks because its in the interest of Speedway (or something like that)". 'Rule'.... It probably will have a number like '101.3: sub section (d)' to give it a bit of gravitas.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 I think I've issued more "Nerd Alerts" than most. I look up averages, I try to work out guest and rider replacement eligibility. Hell, I can tell you which gate is most advantageous in each half of a meeting. I love all things mathematical and I love this sport. So I am so pleased that GSA's, team declarations, inter league average calculations and even riders coming in from abroad are easily subject to my spreadsheet analysis. Give me the data and I'll tell you what's permissible, acceptable, or even a bit dodgy. Given that I've spent the last n months trying to get ahead of this process, I have to tell you. I'm obviously too old, suffering from early dementia or simply too thick. I guess I'l have to take future pronouncements on trust. Not a comfortable position for me at least. Are you okay with this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Can anybody clarify the situation with Lions having Richie Worrall guesting in place of Pawel Przedpelski. Pawel has an assessed average of 7.00, which you can't add 5% for a home rider missing because assessed riders can't have the 5% added, clearly stated at the top of the page in the GSA's( although up until the latest release Pawel's figure did show the +5% for some reason). Richie Worrall has a Premiership average of 7.26 from his time at Poole, which is too high, but because he no longer rides in the Premiership are Lions using his Championship average of 8.64 converted by whatever the figure is. The rules for guesting state that if a rider has got a Premier & Championship average the higher average should be used. Can anyone explain who knows more about it than me?It's an illegal guest. Not the first one this year. But according to the rules of it has been oked then belle Vue have a limited window to object, otherwise the illegal guest is allowed. Amazing that such cheating is allowed to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainman Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Richie isn't now riding BSPA ruling apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hunter Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 According to the SGB web site Howarth and Kurtz are guesting for the Lions tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Apparently it's now R/R for Przedpelski and Kyle Howarth for King. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethelion Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Apparently it's now R/R for Przedpelski and Kyle Howarth for King. Yes , although Lions website still shows Worrall guesting, the preview on the SGB website now states R/R for Przedpelski & Howarth for King as you say. So must have had a change of plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrow Boy 2 Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Thought Worrall was coming in for King with RR for the Pole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellioth4 Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Is there anyone going to this meeting who would be able to text updates to the Updates site? If so, could you please send me a private message which includes your mobile phone number. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethelion Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 (edited) Thought Worrall was coming in for King with RR for the Pole. Worrall's average is 7.26 & King's 6.53 ( 6.86 with 5% added ), so no way that could happen, even in Jim Lynch's mind! News item on Lions website now gives the reason Worrall guest ride wasn't sanctioned. It was because Lions tried to use the +5% for home rider missing, which would have taken Przedpelski's average up to 7.35. This wasn't allowed, so couldn't use Worrall & Howarth now steps in. Edited August 19, 2017 by stevethelion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Is there anyone going to this meeting who would be able to text updates to the Updates site? If so, could you please send me a private message which includes your mobile phone number. Thanks I'll do it. I've text ya 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 I did intend doing all the PL tracks this year on top of our home and away meetings plus about half a dozen random meetings but I think apathys set in. Was going to come to this one but can't be bothered with all the shambles going on this season I reckon all enthusiasm been knocked out of me. Just tried to explain the KL v Wolves double header to my wife, guess what she shook her head in disbelief. Her comment of if it starts at half 7 they'll never finish both meetings. This is someone whose only ever been to 2 meetings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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