Kings Lynn Vs Wolves ( Double Header) 23.08,17

[foreverblue]

Adrian Flux are an insurance broker firm,don't know if there is actualy an "Adrian Flux".sure some Lynn fans will know though.

Sounds a slippery character to me!

[Wolfsbane]

SteveZodiac... please look through the rule book and look for the rule that says "Where 2 teams can't plan out to have enough riders available to start a match, the 2 teams, if in agreement, can just do what they want"

 

Rules are there for a reason and if a promotion can't plan effectively enough to be in a position to start a match with enough riders why have a rule book at all? Like I've said earlier, Wolves were kind of lucky they didn't have the same problem, it could easily have happened to them.

 

It was down to the KL and Wolves promotions to make sure they had enough riders there to complete 2 matches... even more so when both teams were a rider down to start with (even though KL only found out about MPT at 7pm)

Really??!! Bloody Nora.

[keef robin]

Speedway is in a state of flux, and flux knows what's gonna happen!

[DWP]

Amazed wolves agreed to the match seeing if knew if 3 or 4 riders were going to get injured that would be in trouble for the second match ...Also amazed that the track was deep at the start when you have 30 heats to run

Race 1 Jorgensen locks up - wrong his handlebar grip came loose and was twisting in his hand so didn't have control of bike, so pulled up. This is what he told me immediately after the race.

Race 2 Greaves goes wide and locks up - why tracks fault or the rider just made a mistake. Nicklas having won the race, told me track was great. Had some grip but knew it would get slick as night progressed over 30 heats. All riders were expecting this.

Race 4 THJ admits just went into bend 3 too fast and deep. Lost control unfortunately Nicklas had no where to go.

Nicklas with medics with suspected concussion so they didn't want him to continue especially when learning he was concussed in Poland 3 weeks before and was just returning from this injury.

Saw and spoke to THJ in the car park. He was in pain and was doubled up. He sat in chair as mechanics loaded van. Apologised to me that he was cause of Nicklas having to withdraw.

Robert Lambert - I was alone with Robert in changing room, as I collected Nicklas kit bag. He was in underpants and even I (not being a doctor ) could see how blown up his knee was. Robert has been limping for sometime, I asked him prior to meeting how it was and he said much better. He told me in ht15 he dragged his left leg which caught on track and twisted it. Yes he could possibly have continued, done more damage and that would be season over. So he made decision to withdraw, correct in my opinion.

 

Perhaps fans might like to review their opinions with some facts. I didn't hear one complaint re track. With the expected 30 heats, of course track grading etc, was required. Was it extensive, no - just track grading and watering.

[Star Lady]

Lynn have now apologised for the "oversight" in not informing fans of Palm-Toft's absence. So far they have not apologised for advertising 17/18 year old admission at £10 when in fact it should have been 16/17 year old for £10.

 

Buster was swift to sack riders for not performing their job to the standard he required or expected, no doubt we will hear very quickly that the person responsible for the above will have been relieved of their post.

 

I supported Buster over the Holder/Batchelor affair but it's time he realised the rest of his "team" need to perform well also. Fans can forgive riders being injured/out of form etc but there is no excuse for poor communication in this day and age.

[stevebrum]

Race 1 Jorgensen locks up - wrong his handlebar grip came loose and was twisting in his hand so didn't have control of bike, so pulled up. This is what he told me immediately after the race.

Race 2 Greaves goes wide and locks up - why tracks fault or the rider just made a mistake. Nicklas having won the race, told me track was great. Had some grip but knew it would get slick as night progressed over 30 heats. All riders were expecting this.

Race 4 THJ admits just went into bend 3 too fast and deep. Lost control unfortunately Nicklas had no where to go.

Nicklas with medics with suspected concussion so they didn't want him to continue especially when learning he was concussed in Poland 3 weeks before and was just returning from this injury.

Saw and spoke to THJ in the car park. He was in pain and was doubled up. He sat in chair as mechanics loaded van. Apologised to me that he was cause of Nicklas having to withdraw.

Robert Lambert - I was alone with Robert in changing room, as I collected Nicklas kit bag. He was in underpants and even I (not being a doctor ) could see how blown up his knee was. Robert has been limping for sometime, I asked him prior to meeting how it was and he said much better. He told me in ht15 he dragged his left leg which caught on track and twisted it. Yes he could possibly have continued, done more damage and that would be season over. So he made decision to withdraw, correct in my opinion.

Perhaps fans might like to review their opinions with some facts. I didn't hear one complaint re track. With the expected 30 heats, of course track grading etc, was required. Was it extensive, no - just track grading and watering.

thanks for an insightful view of the track from the riders who actually rode it.

Has to make you laugh when you get certain posters calling tracks a 'horror' just because a rider falls off.

Some clearly no nothing and make themselves look foolish when they weren't even there!

 

Number 8s have long since been consigned to the bin - no one names a number 8 anymore for R/R - I assume because they don't want to pay expenses for another rider travelling but not getting a ride. When we had the old second halves it was much simpler as they would get a ride in the scratch races but with no guaranteed ride now they would expect to be paid.

Birmingham have and do so number 8's haven't been consigned by all clubs.

[Call me wolfie]

 

Surely if both promotions agreed to the second match being called off the referee should have shown some common sense and agreed to it being called it off.

 

What am I saying - Common Sense? Speedway? - the two things simply don't co - exist.

 

 

Rarity rather than the rule.

Fair play to CVS if true that he was willing for the second match to be called off, I'm sure some promoters wouldn't

[SteveZodiac]

Fair play to CVS if true that he was willing for the second match to be called off, I'm sure some promoters wouldn't

 

Very true - I think CVS has the ability to see the bigger picture and would have appreciated it would have been common sense to call it off if at all possible.

[Trees]

 

 

Well a few are.

 

I'm looking forward to hearing Trees take on all this

I was happy with the season up till that Thursday in July, balls up after that but I can't blame our riders of today and injuries can't be helped, apart from bringing in injury prone riders. Last night was a disaster of course. But we've had a few good performances since the new guys were signed but they were never gonna be league winners, in fact many fans felt the 'pride' was back, including you SL!

 

I'm not giving up on the place, when the clutch drops the bullsh@t stops. This is a blip, hopefully Buster will get some enthusiastic people in place next year to help run the club and we'll have a good one.

Edited August 24, 2017 by Trees

[semion]

I seem to recall being at Lynn on a night when they rode Eastbourne ( during Waggys watch) Joe Screen and his partner had a coming together ( Screen broken leg as I recall, other lad injured). The meeting was called off at Wagstaff's request as Eastbourne were down to 4 riders and he didn't want to con the public.

 

Anyone else remember that one ?

[Mattfordfan]

I said from Day 1 Robert Lambert is overrated.

 

Judging by the comments on this thread people are starting to agree with me.

[Rickyb]

 

Wolves had RR and they also didnt have a NO.8 it seems

 

how the hell can anyone blame Buster for injuries is beyond me,nothing wrong with double headers and most of them pass without problem

 

doesnt seem luck was on Lynns side last night ,the same could easily have happened to Wolves,

 

and credit due,offering a fiver back is ok as i dont believe he actaully had to do that

Good post I agree with all that

[Trees]

I said from Day 1 Robert Lambert is overrated.

 

Judging by the comments on this thread people are starting to agree with me.

He's a fantastic rider who has an ongoing knee problem, leave off!

[semion]

I was happy with the season up till that Thursday in July, balls up after that but I can't blame our riders of today and injuries can't be helped, apart from bringing in injury prone riders. Last night was a disaster of course.

 

I'm not giving up on the place, when the clutch drops the bullsh@t stops. This is a blip, hopefully Buster will get some enthusiastic people in place next year to help run the club and we'll have a good one.

 

Tress, JC, then Rory last season, This season Rob Lyon, Troy B, Chris H, Gavin Caney. There is a common denominator in all this. When you cannot see your own fault's or be prepared to listen to others opinions and continue to make the same mistakes. Then you would think it might be time for change.

[stevebrum]

I said from Day 1 Robert Lambert is overrated.

 

Judging by the comments on this thread people are starting to agree with me.

I don't agree.

You don't win the U19 title by beating 'highly rated Poles if you aren't talented.

Highly impressive young rider, so all good news for GB.

Edited August 24, 2017 by stevebrum

[waytogo28]

I was happy with the season up till that Thursday in July, balls up after that but I can't blame our riders of today and injuries can't be helped, apart from bringing in injury prone riders. Last night was a disaster of course. But we've had a few good performances since the new guys were signed but they were never gonna be league winners, in fact many fans felt the 'pride' was back, including you SL!

 

I'm not giving up on the place, when the clutch drops the bullsh@t stops. This is a blip, hopefully Buster will get some enthusiastic people in place next year to help run the club and we'll have a good one.

So why not have meeting ( or two ) where those interested in helping to attract new fans can SHARE ideas ( not shout at or be shouted down ) before the end of this season? It is NOT working doing it all "Buster's way" is it? There must be some other compromise, possibly better ways to improve the KLS experience. Hard though it is for anyone to do - changing habits could prove beneficial to the club AND Buster's business.

[Trees]

Race 1 Jorgensen locks up - wrong his handlebar grip came loose and was twisting in his hand so didn't have control of bike, so pulled up. This is what he told me immediately after the race.

Race 2 Greaves goes wide and locks up - why tracks fault or the rider just made a mistake. Nicklas having won the race, told me track was great. Had some grip but knew it would get slick as night progressed over 30 heats. All riders were expecting this.

Race 4 THJ admits just went into bend 3 too fast and deep. Lost control unfortunately Nicklas had no where to go.

Nicklas with medics with suspected concussion so they didn't want him to continue especially when learning he was concussed in Poland 3 weeks before and was just returning from this injury.

Saw and spoke to THJ in the car park. He was in pain and was doubled up. He sat in chair as mechanics loaded van. Apologised to me that he was cause of Nicklas having to withdraw.

Robert Lambert - I was alone with Robert in changing room, as I collected Nicklas kit bag. He was in underpants and even I (not being a doctor ) could see how blown up his knee was. Robert has been limping for sometime, I asked him prior to meeting how it was and he said much better. He told me in ht15 he dragged his left leg which caught on track and twisted it. Yes he could possibly have continued, done more damage and that would be season over. So he made decision to withdraw, correct in my opinion.

 

Perhaps fans might like to review their opinions with some facts. I didn't hear one complaint re track. With the expected 30 heats, of course track grading etc, was required. Was it extensive, no - just track grading and watering.

How we need this extra detail in this day and age of the dreaded social media, thanks David, shut a few up!

So why not have meeting ( or two ) where those interested in helping to attract new fans can SHARE ideas ( not shout at or be shouted down ) before the end of this season? It is NOT working doing it all "Buster's way" is it? There must be some other compromise, possibly better ways to improve the KLS experience. Hard though it is for anyone to do - changing habits could prove beneficial to the club AND Buster's business.

I love that idea tbh...

[Mattfordfan]

I don't agree.

You don't win the U19 title by beating 'highly rated Poles if you aren't talented.

Highly impressive young rider, so all good news for GB.

 

You never do lol.

[foreverblue]

 

You never do lol.

I don't agree either.

[Trees]

 

Tress, JC, then Rory last season, This season Rob Lyon, Troy B, Chris H, Gavin Caney. There is a common denominator in all this. When you cannot see your own fault's or be prepared to listen to others opinions and continue to make the same mistakes. Then you would think it might be time for change.

Yeah for sure but you have to stick at it to hopefully bring about change. We know why some of those clientel left, all different reasons though and it's a shame.