Mark Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 Do we even know if Hancock wants to ride next year? Yes he does. Did an interview at the last GP on BT with Nige & Kelvin. No thoughts of retiring. He is the current WC. He is 100% to get a wild card. Age shouldn't come into it, lets have the best 15 riders, whilst no fan of Hancock he must be in that group.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockster Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 Well it's confirmed that Greg is now out for the season. If Greg decides he's riding next year then I believe he is the most deserving EVER of a Wild Card and it should be a given he gets one. However, it is entirely possible that he will decide to get out on top. i suppose he'll know after his operation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horneymikh Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 Agreed that Greg should be given a wild card next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 Hancock and Holder are the two most obvious wildcard picks in the history of obviousness ever. Anybody who says otherwise must be clinically insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Hancock and Holder are the two most obvious wildcard picks in the history of obviousness ever. Anybody who says otherwise must be clinically insane. Not sure I agree re holder. Next year it will be 5 full seasons since he was world champ and he hasn't finished top 3 since then. His league form this year has been pretty poor everywhere.Hancock plus a Dane are nailed on. The question then is whether if holder finishes outside the top 10 of he has done anything to deserve a wildcard over riders who finish above him? Don't get me wrong I'd like to see him back next year and think he will get a WC. But I would say he is far from a clear cut pick. Hancock I agree with 100% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 My types 1. Maciej Janowski 2. Jason Doyle 3. Patryk Dudek 4. Fredrik Lindgren 5. Tai Woffinden 6. Bartosz Zmarzlik 7. Emil Sajfutdinov 8. Antonio Lindback ............ 9. Przemyslaw Pawlicki 10. Artem Laguta 11. Craig Cook............. 12. Greg Hancock 13. Peter Kildemand/Michael Jepsen Jensen 14. Leon Madsen/Kenneth Bjerre 15. Chris Holder/Matej Zagar Selections 13 and 14 will / should be nowhere near the GP's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Hancock and Holder are the two most obvious wildcard picks in the history of obviousness ever. Anybody who says otherwise must be clinically insane. Class me clinically insane then, Holder is a shadow of his former self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJC Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Class me clinically insane then, Holder is a shadow of his former self. Well it is the Monster Energy Speedway Grand Prix and they are two of the flagship riders that Monster sponsor - Seems a no brainer that they would be in regardless of their current form / age. Based on the usual decisions made in the interests of speedway of course! Wouldn't say insane, maybe naïve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Well it is the Monster Energy Speedway Grand Prix and they are two of the flagship riders that Monster sponsor - Seems a no brainer that they would be in regardless of their current form / age. Based on the usual decisions made in the interests of speedway of course! Wouldn't say insane, maybe naïve. With Woffinden and Dudek on their roster, they won't be too worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJC Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 With Woffinden and Dudek on their roster, they won't be too worried. True, but with the Pawlicki's and Magic sporting Red Bull apparel I'd be amazed if they didn't want to outnumber the opposition with their own riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Not sure I agree re holder. Next year it will be 5 full seasons since he was world champ and he hasn't finished top 3 since then. His league form this year has been pretty poor everywhere. Hancock plus a Dane are nailed on. The question then is whether if holder finishes outside the top 10 of he has done anything to deserve a wildcard over riders who finish above him? Don't get me wrong I'd like to see him back next year and think he will get a WC. But I would say he is far from a clear cut pick. Hancock I agree with 100% I'd forgotten that Holder needed a pick in 2014, I thought he'd qualified every year like Greg. He's also finished 8th three times. He's still pretty much nailed on I'd say but I'm not so certain now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 After this season it would be absolute poetry if Holder doesn't get an SGP wildcard and then get's dumped by Monster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 True, but with the Pawlicki's and Magic sporting Red Bull apparel I'd be amazed if they didn't want to outnumber the opposition with their own riders ON'T think Monster are bothered by that and, of course, they may not be around for much longer. Contract up for renewal shortly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 I still am of the very firm opinion that the SGP is over and out for Greg and Nicki. 1. a dane 2. Milik 3. Lebedevs 4. 9th placed rider. I still believe Lebedevs and Milik would be a better choice then Mr Gating Grin. They would add allot more to the SGP-series then a gating grin.Like overtaking (which Greg isn't very good at). But this forum is very conservative and very afraid of changes (just like BSI) so everyone wants the same riders just for the sake of it. You are way too sentimental. Let go of the old and welcome the new young guns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 I still am of the very firm opinion that the SGP is over and out for Greg and Nicki. 1. a dane 2. Milik 3. Lebedevs 4. 9th placed rider. I still believe Lebedevs and Milik would be a better choice then Mr Gating Grin. They would add allot more to the SGP-series then a gating grin. Like overtaking (which Greg isn't very good at). But this forum is very conservative and very afraid of changes (just like BSI) so everyone wants the same riders just for the sake of it. You are way too sentimental. Let go of the old and welcome the new young guns. Im not an admirer of Hancock but i think you are talking absolute tosh. If you dont believe that he should have a world card as the current world champion whose season has been cut short then i dont get that at all. I want to see the best riders in the world, sometimes the gp challenge doesnt give us that, but then we can make sure we get the wildcards right. Milik is clearly not ready for a gp series and Lebedevs either. Laguta and Cook may well struggle but at least they qualified Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Hancock definately deserves one but not Holder he's a shadow of the rider of 5 years ago. Seems to have lost the bottle to mix it. Understandable but there's better choices out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 And what about Nicki? You've all written him off. But should he get fit and come back fighting, does he deserve a wildcard? Aren't you glad you're not the one dishing out these discretionary places in next year's World Championship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Both Greg and Iversen are saying they want to ride again this year. That should give some indication of how they are riding. I wouldnt be surprised if Nicki got back riding this year as well. So thats potentially 3 wild cards. The other could be the 9th man in the GPs which could be Piotr Pawlicki - which makes it about right, what with 3 newcomers from the GP Challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave67 Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Time for some fresh young talent in 2018. There should be no place for sentiment. Hancock & Pedersen have had a fantastic run & should be remembered as great champions but there time has passed. Holder, Zagar & Iversen are just not cutting it this year & unless they find form & the hit top 8 should be dropped. Be good to see the likes of Lebdevs & Milick (sp!) in there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 So you're saying that the current world champion's time has passed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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