iris123 Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Madsen will be 29 in a few weeks.If he doesn't manage to get through the GP Challenge that is quite an age to have never made it through on his own talent.And also quite an advanced age to recieve a first wild card.Jagus was older,but did manage to qualify... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 I think you mean pick the Dane's . Denmark like Sweden has always been afforded 2 permanent riders in the GP field since it was revamped to a 15 rider format plus 1 wildcard Do the Dane's warrant 2 picks ? Simple answer is no they don't warrant two picks. Maybe they will get two, of lindback for example makes top 8 then maybe they would give them to Greg holder and two Danes? But would be rough on zagar/vaculik if they finished top 10 and didn't get one. Has a rider ever finished top10 in recent times and not been given a wildcard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 This year especially, it would be tough on a rider finishing 9th or 10th in the GP's and not get a wild card. Standard this year is very high. Last year Madson was looking very good, what I seen so far in the SEC is not so good, doesnt seem to have the spirit in him to mix it in a tough meeting like the present crop of GP riders are doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Think we all need to wait for the results of the challenge this weekend, this will have a big say on the wildcards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Madsen in the SEC has been awful. Iversen easily, he scores 6-8 every GP. He won Cardiff two years ago, I'm sure he won a GP last year. The stupid Polish federation rule cutting down his schedule hasn't helped him. He seems like a rider that needs to ride as often as possible to stay on form. 7 consecutive years of being Danish Champion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
severnsider Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Niels won in Torun last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GiveusaB Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Amazing how the Danes have diminished over recent years...... If fit and able/willing.....I'd pick NP every day of the week. But I cant see him riding at GP level again? So I'd go for NKI...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Very difficult to say who's going to be on form NEXT season. I'd say NO ONE would have even thought Magic would have been the top Polish rider in this years GP let alone leading the series with 60% of the season gone. NKI probably worth being in the series. Always in the mix. Is he top 8 in the world. Not anymore. Top 15, Id say yes. Outside of him Id say MJJ is the most worth Dane. Age on his side too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Is the GP really that strong this year? I keep reading this, but I'm not so sure. It's certainly more even, and maybe stronger at the bottom end than some years, but I'm not convinced it's so strong as in the past. Is Doyle better than Crump? Is Janowski better than Gollob? Lindgren better than Rickardsson? Pedersen a few years back was better than any Dane in this year's competition. Woffinden now not quite as strong as Woffinden a couple of years ago. A good, even competition though. If the Danes need a wildcard I'd go for Nicki if fit. By saying strong i would say the riders may not be as good as the years ago but there arent really any weak links in the 15 riders like there has been in the past. Any of the riders are capable of winning a GP i couldnt say that was true years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 NEITHER pulling up any grass in the SGP right now Neither pulling any Trees you mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Neither pulling any Trees you mean.If you're going to be pedantic, surely it would be "pulling up any trees."It amuses me when you of all people correct other people's phrasing or spelling. Oe are you trying to set a president? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted August 17, 2017 Report Share Posted August 17, 2017 Watch the SEC. All the Danes involved are terrible. Iversen has been my favourite GP rider for a few years simply down to his plucky never say die attitude & style, he has been Danish Champion for the last 7 years straight. He has won GP's. The SGP needs a Dane. He is the only sensible choice. They needed a Swede a few years ago & chose THJ, how did that work out? Last every event pretty much. Madsen, MJJ just no, had their chance & didn't deliver. I do have a horrible feeling that in ten years the SGP will be 10 Poles & 5 also rans from the most profitable nations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted August 17, 2017 Report Share Posted August 17, 2017 Watch the SEC. All the Danes involved are terrible. Iversen has been my favourite GP rider for a few years simply down to his plucky never say die attitude & style, he has been Danish Champion for the last 7 years straight. He has won GP's. The SGP needs a Dane. He is the only sensible choice. They needed a Swede a few years ago & chose THJ, how did that work out? Last every event pretty much. Madsen, MJJ just no, had their chance & didn't deliver. I do have a horrible feeling that in ten years the SGP will be 10 Poles & 5 also rans from the most profitable nations. They needed a Brit a few years back and chose Tai Woffinden. How did that work out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted August 17, 2017 Report Share Posted August 17, 2017 They needed a Brit a few years back and chose Tai Woffinden. How did that work out? He came 14th in 2010, 16 points ahead of Emil Safutinov who only rode 4 of the 11 rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 (edited) They wanted Nicholls in the series the first year but BSPA said they'd ban him if he took part (even without missing UK fixtures), so couldn't. The catalyst for him withdrawing from World Cup. Edited August 19, 2017 by SPEEDY69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Another mediocre effort from Madsen.Doesn't deserve a GP place handed to him.He just doesn't have what it takes.Just a shame the Danes are fairly average all round at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 I'd go with MJJ who is having a decent year and has proved he can win gp's. Uhm yeah sure, As far as I am concerned he have been rubbish all season long. He is 48th in the Swedish rider ranking for 2017. Neither Iversen or KIldemand are good choices but they are less bad choices then MJJ or Michelsen. Top Dane in the challenge..not such a daft choice after all, was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 Top Dane in the challenge..not such a daft choice after all, was it? It was and still is. Just because someone is having a good day in the GPC doesn't mean that they are a good fit for the SGP. I stick with my opinion that he have been very mediocre this season and doesn't deserve a wild card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 It was and still is. Just because someone is having a good day in the GPC doesn't mean that they are a good fit for the SGP. I stick with my opinion that he have been very mediocre this season and doesn't deserve a wild card. No Dane deserves a wild card imo, but he's got 10 years on Iversen who's basically finished as a title contender. At least Jensen still has time to improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 You have to decide which Dane is going to have a good 2018. As I see it the options are Iversen Pedersen Madsen MJJ I think we all agree that Madsen just can't cut it in the GPs/individually. So he's out. Pedersen has the class but does he have the fitness any more? It's a few seasons of constant injury now. TBH he should be looking at retirement. For me it'll be a sad day when he's not upsetting people in the GPs but he's just not done it for years now. MJJ, I'm a fan of. Think he's a great little rider with a nice, slightly different style. But he found his level about 4 or 5 years ago now and hasn't kicked on. Puk, he's not having a great year and last year wasn't a huge amount better. But I think of all the Danes he's the one I think is most likely to step it up and have a good 2018. Kildemand. After a really bright start to his GP life, where he seemed to make finals for fun he just hasn't been the same since he actually got a full season. Could do it, but has a habit of doing stupid things. Could be great yet could be abysmal. For me, Puk, Nicki, Kildemand, MJJ, Madsen in that order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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