Gazc Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Nah they where at Ibrokes today Spoon burners only do one sporting event a day. Suppose it wasn't giro week right enough and a Leith postcode rules out a crisis loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Unbelievable performance from the weej... ... all that money and they cannae afford extra medical cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidmango Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Unbelievable performance from the weej... ... all that money and they cannae afford extra medical cover. Don't normally need it as we don't ride on a goat track every week like you guys! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Wonder how many won't bother coming back after seeing no racing for a month or so and then and then nothing for an hour and a half after seeing just 1 race? Even us paupers have double paramedic cover. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damosuzuki Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) Something has to be done. There must be some low cost contingency plan, because that was an HOUR AND A HALF delay for one injured rider. Smith is OK apparently so delighted with that which is the main thing, but any newcomers would be put off. EDITED To add I actually agree with Scotsman above, a terrible advert for Speedway. Edited August 12, 2017 by vtm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidmango Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Something has to be done. There must be some low cost contingency plan, because that was an HOUR AND A HALF delay for one injured rider. Smith is OK apparently so delighted with that which is the main thing, but any newcomers would be put off. EDITED To add I actually agree with Scotsman above, a terrible advert for Speedway. But when was the last time that something like that happened? I'm pretty sure if it was a regular occurrence something would be done about it. It wasn't just one issue, the fact there were no NHS ambulances available contributed to the issue. I didn't particularly enjoy the waiting around but understand that these things happen from time to time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damosuzuki Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 But when was the last time that something like that happened? I'm pretty sure if it was a regular occurrence something would be done about it. It wasn't just one issue, the fact there were no NHS ambulances available contributed to the issue. I didn't particularly enjoy the waiting around but understand that these things happen from time to time. Somerset 2 seasons ago. I'm still going to go, so that's not my gripe. My point is that for any sporting event, that kind of delay is pretty catastrophic. It's a dreadful advert for the sport when there are other alternatives available. I can guarantee if it was my first night at speedway I'd be reluctant to go back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidmango Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Somerset 2 seasons ago. I'm still going to go, so that's not my gripe. My point is that for any sporting event, that kind of delay is pretty catastrophic. It's a dreadful advert for the sport when there are other alternatives available. I can guarantee if it was my first night at speedway I'd be reluctant to go back. I agree it was a long drawn out issue but surely people understand it's very rare this happens. It's also easy to forget the time and money that's been invested into things like the foam fence. These are things the club have improved to speed the pace of meetings up, it's just unfortunate when you have something as severe as tonight that it holds things up. If it was your business, would you pay the considerable additional £ every week to prevent something that on average happens once every 2-3 seasons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damosuzuki Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 No, I understand the money and agree, but I'd look at all the contingencies and see if there was anything I could do to ensure what happened tonight didn't happen again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Wonder how many won't bother coming back after seeing no racing for a month or so and then and then nothing for an hour and a half after seeing just 1 race? Even us paupers have double paramedic cover. Two paramedics would have been irrelevant as he was strapped to a spinal board in the back of the only ambulance. A second ambulance AND paramedic, yes, that would have allowed the meeting to continue. This is the only part Glasgow are in control of. Accidents at speedway and a lack of 999 ambulances are not. However as pointed out tonight the two other delayed meetings this season have been when JS crashed out. A wider issue IMO is that too many riders in the No7 race jacket are riding in a league they arent remotely ready for and incidents like this are a consequence of that. A more experienced rider would have dealt with this or worst case made a controlled get off without injury. Howe er I agree a poor experience for newbies even if some of the later heats were good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpenRake Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Two paramedics would have been irrelevant as he was strapped to a spinal board in the back of the only ambulance. A second ambulance AND paramedic, yes, that would have allowed the meeting to continue. This is the only part Glasgow are in control of. Accidents at speedway and a lack of 999 ambulances are not. However as pointed out tonight the two other delayed meetings this season have been when JS crashed out. A wider issue IMO is that too many riders in the No7 race jacket are riding in a league they arent remotely ready for and incidents like this are a consequence of that. A more experienced rider would have dealt with this or worst case made a controlled get off without injury. Howe er I agree a poor experience for newbies even if some of the later heats were good. From where I was watching I thought pickering accidentally took out jack and so there was nothing he could do 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawajoe Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 From where I was watching I thought pickering accidentally took out jack and so there was nothing he could do Totally agree SharpenRake the lad lifted in bend 2 and young Jack had nowhere to go, Total accident Imo ;o( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidmango Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 From where I was watching I thought pickering accidentally took out jack and so there was nothing he could do Totally agree SharpenRake the lad lifted in bend 2 and young Jack had nowhere to go, Total accident Imo ;o( I agree with that as well. Jack had nowhere to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 Lack of NHS/ambulance cover on a Saturday night in Glasgow is always going to be an issue due to resources, or lack of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 Lack of NHS/ambulance cover on a Saturday night in Glasgow is always going to be an issue due to resources, or lack of them A factor of the switch to Saturday nights which has to be considered. The same problem became obvious at Berwick over recent years as reduced NHS funding restricted availability of county ambulances more and more and several long delays were experienced. Berwick have now, for the past two or three seasons had two ambulances and two paramedics on hand at every meeting, and the delays have evaporated. Yes, there is a cost -- and Berwick are by no means a wealthy club -- but the investment in medical cover has proved its worth time and again in the recent past, including last night when JPB suffered neck injuries and had to be constantly attended until a county vehicle arrived to transport him to hospital for further checks (he is hopefully going to be OK) yet the meeting could go on to a thrilling finish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 Could you explain the 2 ambulances at Berwick,not sure I get what you mean there have been delays at Berwick while attending to riders which is understandable but why do we wait for County Ambulance for transfer sometimes.Delays at Berwick seem no different to other tracks I have attended when there is a bad crash. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 Could you explain the 2 ambulances at Berwick,not sure I get what you mean there have been delays at Berwick while attending to riders which is understandable but why do we wait for County Ambulance for transfer sometimes.Delays at Berwick seem no different to other tracks I have attended when there is a bad crash. Think they might have 2 paramedics instead of 1 as one would stay in the ambulance to monitor the rider while the rest of the first aiders inc the other paramedic are back on the track pretty sure it was the same at Armadale a few weeks back when Sam masters crashed and the meeting carried on with him in the ambulance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 Lack of NHS/ambulance cover on a Saturday night in Glasgow is always going to be an issue due to resources, or lack of them Perhaps the policy should be that where an ambulance is required, rather than wait for an NHS one, it is the trackside ambulance which makes the journey. The Royal Infirmary is only 2 miles away, would remove much of the waiting for fans and not prolong the discomfort of the injured rider. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 The injured rider is always the priority , whilst nobody is happy with the wait last night I am sure 99% were fully understanding of the situation. Getting NHS cover in Possil on a Saturday night was never going to be plain sailing, and I don't even know if this was a consideration when changing race day. But it is what it is this happens in speedway but thankfully not very often just glad to hear Jack is ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted August 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 From where I was watching I thought pickering accidentally took out jack and so there was nothing he could do That was my view ( from the Charlie Monk stand ) as well . Jack went for his usual outside blast round the second bend and Pickering moved out slightly and there was a bit of contact , but just a racing incident . After we all finished losing the will to live , the racing was pretty average . The Tigers were never under any real pressure , three heat leaders superb as usual and well backed up by Nike especially . Dan had an average night by his standards and Tom had a busy night trying to coax a sick looking bike round for 7 races . For them , Wells was good , Riss started well before fading , Lindgren was never going to adequately replace Masters and scored roughly what we expected him to score , Pickering has improved a lot , Davey was pretty much as expected and Clegg was rubbish . Got really chilly once the sun went down , Autumn is fast approaching . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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