alta Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 Tonight says it all re the sport i have loved nearly all my life.High farce.Everyone on here is intelligent enough to know what i mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve55 Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 Tonight says it all re the sport i have loved nearly all my life.High farce.Everyone on here is intelligent enough to know what i mean. Josh G is just as capable of doing what Richard Lawson did at the STMP tonight. Sheffields' top 3 were head and shoulders above their Redcar rivals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comet49 Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 Josh G is just as capable of doing what Richard Lawson did at the STMP tonight. Sheffields' top 3 were head and shoulders above their Redcar rivals.I think he means Lawson rode against Sheffield last night for Workington but tonight.....crazy. That's how it is though but turning people off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingersfin Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) Think Richard forgot which Tigers owners,sponsors and supporters have paid his wages and cheered for him the last 3 years. Just shat on us from a great height. Edited August 11, 2017 by Fingersfin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve55 Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 I think he means Lawson rode against Sheffield last night for Workington but tonight.....crazy. That's how it is though but turning people off. There's more than that turning long term fans away from speedway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comet49 Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 Yeh but it's part of it. My point was it had nothing to do with what Josh would have done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 Think Richard forgot which Tigers owners,sponsors and supporters have paid his wages and cheered for him the last 3 years. Just shat on us from a great height. Yep he certainly has and now his performances and scoring will be scrutinised. He has probably helped another team finish above the team that pays his wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve55 Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 Yeh but it's part of it. My point was it had nothing to do with what Josh would have done. So what's your take on what should happen if your number 1 is injured (or ill) and can't ride? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Think Richard forgot which Tigers owners,sponsors and supporters have paid his wages and cheered for him the last 3 years. Just shat on us from a great height. Yep he certainly has and now his performances and scoring will be scrutinised. He has probably helped another team finish above the team that pays his wages. Some of you lot really take biscuit sometimes for your selfish/narrow minded comments when other results impact on Glasgow's title quest. Every team at some time, including your beloved Tigers, has had to use guests under various circumstances. However it appears that you expect Lawson to decline bookings or deliberately under-perform if called upon by your perceived title rivals. If every Promotion were allowed to sanction as to which other sides their contracted riders could, or could not guest for, this would be restricting their earning opportunities. Oh and in case you are unaware, come the Play-offs, riders from the qualifying teams, are not permitted to be used as guests at this stage. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooky Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Got 20 boxes of tissues ready to send up to Glasgow soon with all these comments 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Josh G is just as capable of doing what Richard Lawson did at the STMP tonight. Sheffields' top 3 were head and shoulders above their Redcar rivals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 I have to say. This was one of the most unentertaining meetings, I have seen at Redcar. Virtually every race was over by bend 2. I take nothing away from Sheffield, their top 3 were great, but once the leader got out in the dirt line, it was race over, (unless you make an error of judgement like Garrity). I think the time has come, for the banking to be seriously reduced and hopefully create more racing lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Some of you lot really take biscuit sometimes for your selfish/narrow minded comments when other results impact on Glasgow's title quest. Every team at some time, including your beloved Tigers, has had to use guests under various circumstances. However it appears that you expect Lawson to decline bookings or deliberately under-perform if called upon by your perceived title rivals. If every Promotion were allowed to sanction as to which other sides their contracted riders could, or could not guest for, this would be restricting their earning opportunities. Oh and in case you are unaware, come the Play-offs, riders from the qualifying teams, are not permitted to be used as guests at this stage. The Lawson guesting for the Tigers of Sheffield has been discussed because it directly involves our club and will have an impact on us as a club , but it is the sport in general that appears to be going down the pan with supporters getting fed up with mickey mouse rules. In what other sport would this scenario crop up none is the answer but just to reply to some of your points raised. Taking the Biscuit / Small Narrow minded - You should start looking a little closer to home before accusing anyone else of this. And in case you hadn't noticed a title quest is something we all set out to win at the beginning we are passing comment on a forum that we feel shouldn't have happened. Earning Potential - Fully understand this but a line must be drawn between money and doing what is right for HIS club , to be honest it is not as if Richard is short of meeting's. Deliberately ask a rider to underperform - Nobody mentioned or even considered this bar you again look a little closer to home with that one. And finally yes we are aware of the play off criteria but your pompous attitude shines through yet again. So on reflection it is the Sport and the silly rules that is the issue and we have highlighted this as another example of how stupid it is. Got 20 boxes of tissues ready to send up to Glasgow soon with all these comments Not Sheffield's fault they are doing what is right for them it is the integrity of this sport which is fast going down the tubes with the guest rules . R/R , D/up , D/down that gets sillier every season. Anyway divert the 20 boxes somewhere not far from us I am sure they will need them before us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 I think he means Lawson rode against Sheffield last night for Workington but tonight.....crazy. That's how it is though but turning people off. Guests have been allowed in this situation ever since i started going to speedway 50 years ago, so its not this situation that is putting people off. Our number 1 was injured, not riding elsewhere. the situation was that RL was at Sheffield last night when it was realised that JG was injured, easy solution ask RL to ride. Did you expect him not to ride to his full capabilities? I agree that the situation this season has got totally out of hand and we need to go back to using guests when riders are injured and not riding elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graz gp Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 All the team's use guests, even Glasgow, do i sense a bit of sour grapes. It's a good job we didn't have the full team out. Don't forget Sheffield have won 8 on the trot and Lawson was not riding for us in all those meeting's. I do agree that the situation concerning guest is not good, but what is the alternative, 3 point national league riders or a squad system, would that not put cost up. Are supporters prepared to pay more to cover extra cost. Very difficult. Anyhow Glasgow have the chance to put one over Sheffield on the 20th, in your dreams lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moranboys Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 i think all of this bickering is getting out of hand.if it had been josh g guesting for rich lawson somewhere then i don't think that the glasgow supporters would be complaining.yes,i do agree that the whole situation regarding doubling up etc is getting out of hand but you know, to be honestly think the tactical rule is fair especially away from home where it at least keeps matches alive and interesting instead of being so one sided.maybe the rule should be kept just for the away team thus negating a little, home track advantage.just a thought.as for guests well like the third man has stated, guests have been around for a very long time and i would rather see the likes of richard lawson standing in for our own josh.g.he is good to watch and puts in the effort.on another note.can we yorkshire tigers now be stopped from topping the pile come the end of the season, barring any further injuries.we have some crucial matches coming up so could be interesting.good luck to the rest playing catch up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) All the team's use guests, even Glasgow, do i sense a bit of sour grapes. It's a good job we didn't have the full team out. Don't forget Sheffield have won 8 on the trot and Lawson was not riding for us in all those meeting's. I do agree that the situation concerning guest is not good, but what is the alternative, 3 point national league riders or a squad system, would that not put cost up. Are supporters prepared to pay more to cover extra cost. Very difficult. Anyhow Glasgow have the chance to put one over Sheffield on the 20th, in your dreams lol. No sour grapes Sheffield are the form team and deserve any success they get . it is using guests from your main contenders that make the sport look amateurish , as I say no other sport would do this but it is what it is for now. As for the 20th don't think we will get close this time but you never know. Edited August 12, 2017 by Gazc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erimus11 Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) Sheffield were a class above us last night and fully deserved their win but, yet again, I left the meeting thinking more about some strange decisions made by the referee! Graveson smashes into the air fence and carries on for over a lap with a hoarding trailing from his back wheel. The referee allows the race to continue and only put on the red light when the bike shed the hoarding on the track! To make an even bigger mockery of the incident the referee then invites all 4 riders back for the re-run! How the heck wasn't Graveson held responsible for the race being stopped? Edited August 12, 2017 by erimus11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Max Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Riders have guested for their main rivals, and assisted them, since guest system introduced! Maybe Glasgow feel that as they pay Megabucks the riders should be more selective in their guest appearances? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graz gp Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 My mistake Glasgow at Sheffield on the 31st of August. It's Edinburgh on the 20th. I better not mix those two teams up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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