Smithchops Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 I really appreciate all the angles and finances and infrastructure that has to be considered where it could be really “beefed up”, but for me, to keep it going and keep the focus in the public eye, at least cover 1 meeting each week in the format of last year, .. it won’t make an armchair fan because they won’t show my home team every week ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike1944 Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 The problem speedway has right now is the image it portrays to the casual TV viewer or someone who goes to a meeting for the very first time. I have seen much speedway live and on TV and I must say the image it portrays is dire. I have seen meetings ruined with riders messing about time wasting "gardening" then they all get to the tapes and one will decide to pull back and go for a ride way past the fourth bend on a "scenic tour of the track" while the others wait at the tapes then another and yet another will decide to follow. The starting marshal keeps calling the riders to the tapes, with no control over them whatsoever, the riders go forward nearly stretch the tapes to breaking point, then go back then go forward and back a number of times, with the starting marshal who might has well not even be there keeps indicating the riders to get in line with frantic waving of his arms Tapes get broken or a false start and more time wasted when they open the pits gate and a 12,000 mile service takes place to the bikes. even the crowd appears uninterested a few cheer on but many looked bored to death as they stand in the cold watching little of interest, watching riders just faffing about, eventually hoping to see the next race. Then with a few heats to go it will start to rain and then more delays will commence usually with more "gardening" and more "scenic tours" as the track gets wetter and wetter, instead of getting on with the meeting to get a decent result. Added to all this we often see unbelievable decisions made by referees. What a sad fiasco this all is. The image that speedway portrays these days if not a good one. I love speedway but am not happy to see the sport decline in this sad way through lack of decent management on how it is run as a spectator and supposedly entertaining sport. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 The club management need to put a stop to all the time wasting otherwise the teams will be riding with very few paying fans watching, especially when it is cold in March, April and September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, mike1944 said: The problem speedway has right now is the image it portrays to the casual TV viewer or someone who goes to a meeting for the very first time. I have seen much speedway live and on TV and I must say the image it portrays is dire. I have seen meetings ruined with riders messing about time wasting "gardening" then they all get to the tapes and one will decide to pull back and go for a ride way past the fourth bend on a "scenic tour of the track" while the others wait at the tapes then another and yet another will decide to follow. The starting marshal keeps calling the riders to the tapes, with no control over them whatsoever, the riders go forward nearly stretch the tapes to breaking point, then go back then go forward and back a number of times, with the starting marshal who might has well not even be there keeps indicating the riders to get in line with frantic waving of his arms Tapes get broken or a false start and more time wasted when they open the pits gate and a 12,000 mile service takes place to the bikes. even the crowd appears uninterested a few cheer on but many looked bored to death as they stand in the cold watching little of interest, watching riders just faffing about, eventually hoping to see the next race. Then with a few heats to go it will start to rain and then more delays will commence usually with more "gardening" and more "scenic tours" as the track gets wetter and wetter, instead of getting on with the meeting to get a decent result. Added to all this we often see unbelievable decisions made by referees. What a sad fiasco this all is. The image that speedway portrays these days if not a good one. I love speedway but am not happy to see the sport decline in this sad way through lack of decent management on how it is run as a spectator and supposedly entertaining sport. Quite right. While I respect anyone who has the courage to get on and race a speedway bike the power in the sport has moved to those riders who in the main seem to have totally forgotten the rights and needs of the paying public. Sadly that malaise goes further than the riders. Every instruction to a rider to drop points to fiddle the average, every time a dispute between rider and promotion is played out in public at meetings, every time a rider goes missing for a more lucrative pay day elsewhere, every meeting that's rushed through to heat ten with no racing possible, the constant team changes wrecking loyalty between fans and riders, every time a rider chooses an early night rather than socialising with the fans, every little thing that tells the fans they are the least important people at the meeting, they all serve to damage the sport and we are seeing the bitter harvest of it all now. It is an essential truth when selling a product or service that the needs of the customer come first. Speedway's forgotten that and the bill is now being presented for that stupidity. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 The British Basketball on FreeSports is a paid for broadcast with the league and sponsors paying to get the sport on TV. Basketball is very fortunate that the owners of Sheffield based OB company Televideo are huge basketball and Netball fans so do offer their services at a very low rate. So much so to help get the SuperLeague of Netball going and live on Sky sports they waived all the fuel costs for the broadcasts and covered a lot of their riggers wages. I really do not think Speedway fans have much to worry about it’s hust a case of timing the announcement correctly and I’m sure there will be some noticeable improvements with coverage too. One thing that always surprises me is that Speedway cannot get a league sponsor and that sponsor involved in Speedway already doesn’t take up the TV coverage sponsorship rights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, flagrag said: The British Basketball on FreeSports is a paid for broadcast with the league and sponsors paying to get the sport on TV. Basketball is very fortunate that the owners of Sheffield based OB company Televideo are huge basketball and Netball fans so do offer their services at a very low rate. So much so to help get the SuperLeague of Netball going and live on Sky sports they waived all the fuel costs for the broadcasts and covered a lot of their riggers wages. I really do not think Speedway fans have much to worry about it’s hust a case of timing the announcement correctly and I’m sure there will be some noticeable improvements with coverage too. One thing that always surprises me is that Speedway cannot get a league sponsor and that sponsor involved in Speedway already doesn’t take up the TV coverage sponsorship rights Apart from the tv company itself I cannot think of any existing club or rider sponsor that would benefit from much, if at all, more tv coverage by being a league sponsor. You need a large company who might benefit, but the return from the fan base and tv audience would not warrent major advertising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 hour ago, A ORLOV said: Apart from the tv company itself I cannot think of any existing club or rider sponsor that would benefit from much, if at all, more tv coverage by being a league sponsor. You need a large company who might benefit, but the return from the fan base and tv audience would not warrent major advertising. I don’t know. the British Speedway Premiership, sponsored by The Co-op Funeral service has a nice ring to it with all the old fogies who attend the sport up and down the country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: I don’t know. the British Speedway Premiership, sponsored by The Co-op Funeral service has a nice ring to it with all the old fogies who attend the sport up and down the country. Oh Steve that was a big below the belt mate. Seriously, speedway needs all the fans it can get. Thing is, speedway is not promoted like the way football is. Look what happened to football when sky started promoting it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, Starman2006 said: Oh Steve that was a big below the belt mate. Seriously, speedway needs all the fans it can get. Thing is, speedway is not promoted like the way football is. Look what happened to football when sky started promoting it.. Welcome back chap. Football attendances have actually fallen in recent years ... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/21142999 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 minute ago, blupanther said: Welcome back chap. Football attendances have actually fallen in recent years ... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/21142999 They have realised how boring it is 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie456 Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said: I don’t know. the British Speedway Premiership, sponsored by The Co-op Funeral service has a nice ring to it with all the old fogies who attend the sport up and down the country. You included of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 In years to come. Not there yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: In years to come. Not there yet. You hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 52 minutes ago, blupanther said: Welcome back chap. Football attendances have actually fallen in recent years ... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/21142999 Thank you Bluepanther. Yeh the weather wil depict who goes and who doesnt, but in the main, especially in the premier league grounds are pretty much a sell out. I mean, i would love to go and see Bournemouth at some point, but you will never get a ticket for love nor money, unless you know somebody who knows somebody.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 A debate on TV coverage descends into moronic ageism. Speedway gets what it deserves, to be honest. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: I don’t know. the British Speedway Premiership, sponsored by The Co-op Funeral service has a nice ring to it with all the old fogies who attend the sport up and down the country. I said exactly the same thing not so long ago and got slated...your face obviously fits better than mine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Baldyman said: I said exactly the same thing not so long ago and got slated...your face obviously fits better than mine. Your face fits perfectly in the right setting Baldy.... Crimewatch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 hour ago, RobMcCaffery said: A debate on TV coverage descends into moronic ageism. Speedway gets what it deserves, to be honest. Are you crazy? A brilliant speedway race is thrilling. Compare that to the borefest that is formula one and the millions that gets! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Starman2006 said: Thank you Bluepanther. Yeh the weather wil depict who goes and who doesnt, but in the main, especially in the premier league grounds are pretty much a sell out. I mean, i would love to go and see Bournemouth at some point, but you will never get a ticket for love nor money, unless you know somebody who knows somebody.. Man City, the best team in the land can't fill their stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces High Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 42 minutes ago, hyderd said: Man City, the best team in the land can't fill their stadium. Man City are the exception. They offer ten pound tickets through the studios union even to cl league ko games and still cant. I think they have a lot of armchair fans. Handy for when leicester come to town though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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