Steve Shovlar Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 I had a proposal for PPV live streaming before I left the BSPA. It was when I was worried about the sky TV deal not being renewed last time around. 5 years later and words fail me if this is not a back up option to a BT sport deal not being concluded this season. This would be fairly easy to implement and would bring in very good money to clubs. Either a £20 monthly subscription to watch all televised meetings or a fiver a meeting. Today the technology is there to get up and running in no time at all. Just need a company willing to do this and I am sure there are several who would love to have the opportunity like Pete Ballinger or Rerun. Time for clubs to become pro active and get this income source online. All that is reuired is a fast broadband and most stadiums have this facility. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perton Wolf Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Absolute amateurs running British Speedway, PPV live streaming would be easy to implement and wouldn't incur the subsiding of production costs like a TV meeting. A 5er a meeting could attract plenty of British viewers and those from abroad too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 I would pay that for other meetings from around the country. I would start with every Swindon away meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickRushbrook Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 I would most definitely pay for live streaming. It's a great idea and would hopefully increase coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yahoho Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Exactly this. PPV Streaming. I think a huge amount of people would pay for this either through subscription or the one offs for their away team meetings. Set this up through a main channel that manages the feeds, links and subscriptions and you are away! The great thing is that the expectation bar will be so low, customers will be happy with a single camera and no commentary / production value. Clubs could litterally setup a webcam on their home straight and people would pay to watch that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Absolute amateurs running British Speedway, PPV live streaming would be easy to implement and wouldn't incur the subsiding of production costs like a TV meeting. A 5er a meeting could attract plenty of British viewers and those from abroad too. can you call them amateurs i reckon no hopers is a better discription Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 No GPS on TV either? I understand BT contract for GP’s includes 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Exactly this. PPV Streaming. I think a huge amount of people would pay for this either through subscription or the one offs for their away team meetings. Set this up through a main channel that manages the feeds, links and subscriptions and you are away! The great thing is that the expectation bar will be so low, customers will be happy with a single camera and no commentary / production value. Clubs could litterally setup a webcam on their home straight and people would pay to watch that. Just get it going, the quality and better coverage can always be improved and follow later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Just get it going, the quality and better coverage can always be improved and follow later. It's been my "prayer" for two or three years and if the even basic level of broadcast were adequate to enjoy what's going on I would be much, much more likely to pay for and enjoy "away" matches that I cannot any longer get to ( or afford to ). My interest and passion in exciting, close racing remains undiminished after more than 60 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 This would be fairly easy to implement and would bring in very good money to clubs. Either a £20 monthly subscription to watch all televised meetings or a fiver a meeting. Today the technology is there to get up and running in no time at all. Just need a company willing to do this and I am sure there are several who would love to have the opportunity like Pete Ballinger or Rerun. Time for clubs to become pro active and get this income source online. All that is reuired is a fast broadband and most stadiums have this facility. Ice Hockey do this, I believe Pete Ballinger does it for Coventry Blaze. Think it's £7 per broadcast but a season subscription would be great. I would pay to watch meetings that i had zero chance of attending. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yahoho Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Its a no brainer if there are no contracts in place blocking this like in previous years. £0 gate money for the away supporter who can't / wont travel VS £3 PPV money for the supporter who would watch a basic stream from home to follow his / her team... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 It's been my "prayer" for two or three years and if the even basic level of broadcast were adequate to enjoy what's going on I would be much, much more likely to pay for and enjoy "away" matches that I cannot any longer get to ( or afford to ). My interest and passion in exciting, close racing remains undiminished after more than 60 years. As far as quality goes obviously someone like Re Run and other companies who produce official video of meetings would be good, but I have been happy to watch the odd race from a race from someones phone on utube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Its a no brainer if there are no contracts in place blocking this like in previous years. £0 gate money for the away supporter who can't / wont travel VS £3 PPV money for the supporter who would watch a basic stream from home to follow his / her team... The flip side to this is how many home fans would stay at home and watch on PPV for 3 quid, rather than pay £17 to attending in person? I agree that superficially PPV sounds like a fantastic idea, but I can't get past the fact that I don't think the numbers add up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle69 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Has no coverage actually been confirmed anywhere or is it just rumours again? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yahoho Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 The flip side to this is how many home fans would stay at home and watch on PPV for 3 quid, rather than pay £17 to attending in person? I would imagine similar numbers to those who stayed at home and watched on sky, at a guess. The quality of these streams is unlikely to be anything close to a camera crew setup so I would imagine it similar to a betting style feed that would serve a purpose as opposed to being an alternative to going. I would imagine a PPV stream solution to be something to bring in a bit of extra income to the tracks for supporters who wouldn't otherwise be able to make the meeting, rather than watching a weak stream of probably one maybe 2 cameras max at a low quality instead of going to the meeting proper. Could be wrong though, interesting topic for sure and would be crazy for it not to be looked into seriously and trialed at a few tracks if there is no TV coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 If you watch the ReRun highlights on the SGB site the quality is excellent. OK, it is from a single camera, but they seem to have got the ideal angle, just over the first bend, which gives a good view of the start, plus throughout the entire race. It obviously helps that the cameraman is a speedway fan and focuses on the action, rather than the leader. The other problem with PPV for speedway is that it's a closed market. I subscribed to the McGregor/Mayweather fight, as I had no way of attending (it was in Las Vegas after all) and even if I was there I probably couldn't afford a ticket. Speedway simply doesn't have those barriers to attendance or indeed the wider potential audience. With PPV at best you are gaining a few hundred away fans and at worst you are cannibalising home supporters by offering them a cheaper (and dare I say more convenient) alternative to attending in person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 yahoho wrote " Could be wrong though, interesting topic for sure and would be crazy for it not to be looked into seriously and trialed at a few tracks if there is no TV coverage." Why not BSPA? Individual tracks? The BSPA keep harping on that they are now SO with it technologically. It deserves a decent trial as I believe that the number of away supporters ( or neutrals looking for a potentially good match ) would outweigh the possible "can't be bothered" locals ( who may be the wavering ones anyway ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yahoho Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 If you watch the ReRun highlights on the SGB site the quality is excellent. OK, it is from a single camera, but they seem to have got the ideal angle, just over the first bend, which gives a good view of the start, plus throughout the entire race. It obviously helps that the cameraman is a speedway fan and focuses on the action, rather than the leader. The other problem with PPV for speedway is that it's a closed market. I subscribed to the McGregor/Mayweather fight, as I had no way of attending (it was in Las Vegas after all) and even if I was there I probably couldn't afford a ticket. Speedway simply doesn't have those barriers to attendance or indeed the wider potential audience. With PPV at best you are gaining a few hundred away fans and at worst you are cannibalising home supporters by offering them a cheaper (and dare I say more convenient) alternative to attending in person. ReRun are indeed very impressive these days, the quality is very good and I have just checked their website as I have not paid much attention to them recently and seen that they do cover a lot of tracks - I don't know if this is something they do for all meetings or just occasional ones, but my question would be - is it feasible for them or anyone else to put out streams of this quality for all tracks, every meeting? Or would a cheaper more realistic approach need to be found, thus my mention of a single fixed camera with no commentary - effectively a webcam style. I would disagree about speedway not having the same barriers as the boxing - although distance is not the same as travelling to america - travelling an hour up the road to make a 7.30 start meeting, to travel back afterwards and get to work the next day, at least once a week, is beyond the majority of supporters. Be this due to cost of tickets, fuel etc or simply the logisitcs - I would argue that speedway does indeed have those barriers. I would agree that the potential audience is not huge, which brings me back to the thought that a simple unmanned camera feed would be the way I would imagine it getting started due to low implementation costs. I would put myself as a fairly stereotypical speedway supporter, or at least of the younger generation. I love to go to the speedway and support my local team where possible. I cannot afford to go every week, nor can I justify the logistics of travelling to away meetings during the week, certainly not regularly, infact I don't think I have been to an away meeting for quite a few years. However were there a way for me to watch my team racing in their away legs, I would be very happy to pay a subscription to watch them on the road, plus a few other meetings if there was a catchup service style thing, during the week. All this being said, I personally would only stay at home to watch a stream instead of going to watch my team at home, due to financial justifications, at which point I wouldn't be going to the track anyway - so surely a small amount is better than no amount. It would also help me feel more attached to my team if I were able to follow them around their away legs, something that I have not felt for a long time. There are arguements for and against, but I cannot imagine that the impact to tracks due to people staying at home to watch an internet stream, would be anything like the impact caused by Sky. I highly doubt this will be a massively lucrative project for anyone who takes it on (unless done by tracks individually - at which point you never know), but it could certainly be a great thing for the fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 The flip side to this is how many home fans would stay at home and watch on PPV for 3 quid, rather than pay £17 to attending in person? I agree that superficially PPV sounds like a fantastic idea, but I can't get past the fact that I don't think the numbers add up. That is easily got round by not advertising which meeting is being shown until just before the start of the meeting so those who were not going anyway could then decide to pay for it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 ReRun are indeed very impressive these days, the quality is very good and I have just checked their website as I have not paid much attention to them recently and seen that they do cover a lot of tracks - I don't know if this is something they do for all meetings or just occasional ones, but my question would be - is it feasible for them or anyone else to put out streams of this quality for all tracks, every meeting? Or would a cheaper more realistic approach need to be found, thus my mention of a single fixed camera with no commentary - effectively a webcam style. I'd imagine the biggest technical challenge is finding a fast enough Internet connection to send the coverage to the servers which stream the content. I agree in theory though, if no TV deal is forthcoming, this should at least be trialed to determine indicative numbers. That is easily got round by not advertising which meeting is being shown until just before the start of the meeting so those who were not going anyway could then decide to pay for it or not. Surely all meetings would be streamed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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