Midland Red Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 If they go for Monday and Thursday for the Premiership, and televise live Premiership on Mondays, those other tracks running on a Monday will be in direct opposition to the tv - I take it more tracks will operate on a Monday than at present if fixed nights comes about Doesn't make a lot of sense - if there has to live tv there should be no other track running that night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilali Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 Realistically who wants to watch teams full of guests and R/R every week anyways. Add to that having to see mongs like Sargeant go through the tapes everytime he comes to them just makes British speedway even more of a laughing stock. Be better if they streamed every Polish meeting weekly, at least its taken seriously over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 If they go for Monday and Thursday for the Premiership, and televise live Premiership on Mondays, those other tracks running on a Monday will be in direct opposition to the tv - I take it more tracks will operate on a Monday than at present if fixed nights comes about Doesn't make a lot of sense - if there has to live tv there should be no other track running that night Have been saying for ages that if local meeting is against a not very good team or the weather is a bit iffy some people will decide to stay at home and watch the meeting on the tv, especially if they are unable to record or watch a repeat of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike1944 Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 It might be advantageous for BT Sport to show the whole meeting with all the races in full and most of the crap removed like watching most of the time with gardening, tapes being broken andreruns of false starts when the machines get a full service and refill of fuel and track grading. Show all the false starts by all means but cut out all the waiting and time wasting. This would make a much better programme for viewers.  The amount of time wasting is horrendous, sometimes I wonder if it is created by the promoters to spin the meeting out. Cut out time wasting and you have got a decent 60 minute TV programme. As for spinning the meeting out unless there is a rider with two rides in succession or track grading taking place when a heat is finished, the riders should come out and be ready to race as the riders of the previous heat return to the pits, or would this look too embarrassing for a sport charging at least £1 for a little over of 60 seconds of actual racing. Football is expensive especially for the Premiership League but at least one does get 90 minutes football and even allowing for time wasting far more for your money.  Sometimes standing in the cold and wind and sometimes rain when they cannot make up their minds whether to call a meeting off of not. poor track facilities and little comfort for around £15 for around 20 minutes actual racing max. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieIpswich Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 The sport needs TV coverage and it needs to see the at home audience grow over the next few years to show the sport is progressing even if in reality it's TV figures, people love progressive sports and it needs that opportunity in order for it to become worth paying for, use BT even if free, grow the audience to sell to another broadcaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 That'll keep the armchair supporters happy, save them having to pay their entrance money at the turnstiles Another coffin nail hammered in Where the hell is this rule that if you watch speedway on TV then you can't watch it live? Â Of course there isn't one and life is a damn sight more complex than option A - watch on TV - or B - Go to a match. Â And they try to claim that promoters are blinkered! Â I am happy to watch as much speedway as I can, either in person or on TV, because it's a sport that I love and have loved for nearly fifty years now. I have watched the sport live and on TV, and have helped to make it happen both live and on TV. In recent years ill-health has denied me the chance to watch live and TV has been a lifeline. Thankfully things are set to change for me next year and I will be able to get out to see meetings live. In the past I've watched live speedway seven nights/days a week and would now if I could. I can't but I don't see why I should be denied the chance to keep in touch via TV. Â Noggin's point about losing tracks is a very relevant one. In my case I lost my track 44 years ago! Â I find it deeply insulting that some simple-minded 'supporters' think that you can't watch on TV AND go to meetings live. Life isn't just made up of binary choices - one extreme or another! Â I'm sure I'm not the only person who loves to do both. It's simplistic, lazy and stupid thinking to 'think' that it has to be one or the other. Â Serious question, but what exactly are the "highlights" of speedway? We don't have goals, knockouts, touchdown etc. Would you show the best heat from each meeting? That doesn't exactly articulate the balance of a meeting, in the same way showing the goals from both teams shows the ebb and flow of a football match. You can give coherent, complete coverage of a 15 heat match easily in half an hour. No need for 'highlights' packages. The sport needs TV coverage and it needs to see the at home audience grow over the next few years to show the sport is progressing even if in reality it's TV figures, people love progressive sports and it needs that opportunity in order for it to become worth paying for, use BT even if free, grow the audience to sell to another broadcaster Most sports that have lost TV coverage or have never had it are desperate to either get it back (ice hockey/basketball) or have been prepared to pay to get coverage started (netball). Â Only speedway could be so moronic to even think of turning TV away. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruiser McHuge Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 Speedway needs TV..without it it just becomes more and more a virtually amateur sport that virtually nobody watches.. There is a bigger picture than saying matches cannot be televised when other tracks are running..the publicity generated by being on TV cannot be over emphasised and if promoters cannot capitalise on that in any way then they should not be promoters. There is a lot wrong with speedway but there will be even more wrong if they don't get TV. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Where the hell is this rule that if you watch speedway on TV then you can't watch it live? Â Of course there isn't one and life is a damn sight more complex than option A - watch on TV - or B - Go to a match. Â And they try to claim that promoters are blinkered! Â I am happy to watch as much speedway as I can, either in person or on TV, because it's a sport that I love and have loved for nearly fifty years now. I have watched the sport live and on TV, and have helped to make it happen both live and on TV. In recent years ill-health has denied me the chance to watch live and TV has been a lifeline. Thankfully things are set to change for me next year and I will be able to get out to see meetings live. In the past I've watched live speedway seven nights/days a week and would now if I could. I can't but I don't see why I should be denied the chance to keep in touch via TV. Â Noggin's point about losing tracks is a very relevant one. In my case I lost my track 44 years ago! Â I find it deeply insulting that some simple-minded 'supporters' think that you can't watch on TV AND go to meetings live. Life isn't just made up of binary choices - one extreme or another! Â I'm sure I'm not the only person who loves to do both. It's simplistic, lazy and stupid thinking to 'think' that it has to be one or the other. You can give coherent, complete coverage of a 15 heat match easily in half an hour. No need for 'highlights' packages. Most sports that have lost TV coverage or have never had it are desperate to either get it back (ice hockey/basketball) or have been prepared to pay to get coverage started (netball). Â Only speedway could be so moronic to even think of turning TV away. Â Â But I've seen - as an example - the different levels of crowd attendance at Brandon, over many seasons, for a televised meeting compared with that when it wasn't televised There was a significant lowering of attendees I guess other tracks will have seen the same or similar (I exclude the play-offs from this - I'm talking about regular league meetings) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
severnsider Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 After a number of years not attending speedway it was the television coverage that got me back watching at the stadiums. Â Without the TV coverage I wouldn't probably have been attending the last 18 years or so. Nearest track is 50 miles each way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 Highlights would show the significant heats during a meeting, other exciting heats, action in the pits, quick interviews with the team manager, riders during the drama of a meeting, scenes from the crowd, jubilant, angry etc ..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 Highlights would show the significant heats during a meeting, other exciting heats, action in the pits, quick interviews with the team manager, riders during the drama of a meeting, scenes from the crowd, jubilant, angry etc ..... think you go to watch different meetings to me . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 think you go to watch different meetings to me . Â Your cup is half empty m8 In EVERY meeting there are significant heats, exciting heats etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 Â Your cup is half empty m8 In EVERY meeting there are significant heats, exciting heats etc etc if only each club had a few thousand fans like you up and down the country the sport would be saved . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenMiller Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 YET to be approved by the BSPA, not all of whom perceive any advantage from having British speedway televised. Â Words truly fail sometimes to describe how clueless the people running our sport really are....! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 Speedway in the UK is going to end up dying up it's own exhaust pipe anyway. Walking away from it being on TV will just hasten the end. They have never considered Pay Per View streaming which could bring in another revenue stream. The "dinosaurs" are not us old grey-haired fans lingering on the terraces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) Hearing rumours now of no tv in 2018. Why on earth wasnt the tv deal sorted before the agm? Edited November 27, 2017 by Steve Shovlar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Â No GPS on TV either? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Hearing the same no deal! Which could have issues for current premier league clubs with riders all signed up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theboss Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Speedway in the UK is going to end up dying up it's own exhaust pipe anyway. Walking away from it being on TV will just hasten the end. They have never considered Pay Per View streaming which could bring in another revenue stream. The "dinosaurs" are not us old grey-haired fans lingering on the terraces. I had a proposal for PPV live streaming before I left the BSPA. It was when I was worried about the sky TV deal not being renewed last time around. Â 5 years later and words fail me if this is not a back up option to a BT sport deal not being concluded this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Hearing rumours now of no tv in 2018. Why on earth wasnt the tv deal sorted before the agm? Some clubs will have to reduce their expenditure or get out and raise more sponsorship and income from other sources. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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