BWitcher Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 If that is what is on offer than not worth doing in my opinion. No point having GP riders racing against conference league reserves. Why? It used to happen on a regular basis when the sport had much bigger crowds. AGREE ... and it's not just the SGP riders themselves but the equipment they possess Again... I don't remember the outcry when Hans Nielsen was lining up against David Haynes or Andy Sumner in 80's/90's. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Why? It used to happen on a regular basis when the sport had much bigger crowds. Again... I don't remember the outcry when Hans Nielsen was lining up against David Haynes or Andy Sumner in 80's/90's. Spot on. And teams were a lot less even in the good old days too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieIpswich Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Even if BT cover costs it's best to have them in place than nothing at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) Does it really matter how BT get their audience figures? If they are happy then that is surely a big plus to start negotiations. Rather than clubs relying on some sort of TV cash pay out they should be concentrating on using TV to get more (and get more out of) corporate sponsorship, which in turn should benefit riders as well as the clubs. Edited October 29, 2017 by Skidder1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Does it really matter how BT get their audience figures? If they are happy then that is surely a big plus to start negotiations. Rather than clubs relying on some sort of TV cash pay out they should be concentrating on using TV to get more (and get more out of) corporate sponsorship, which in turn should benefit riders as well as the clubs. and perhaps try to persuade them to divert their contributions into different directions away from long standing loyal recipients? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieIpswich Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 British Superbike use Eurosport in this way extremely well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmauger Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) FIGURES for terrestrial TV (BBC, ITV, etc) are calculated by information gathered from a few thousand people whose choice of programmes are regularly monitored. Probably about as reliable as an opinion poll. I think such figures should be taken wih a wee pinch of salt. I mean how many times have we visited folk, or had folk pop round to see us, and the TV is on in the background beacuse no-one has turned over or choose to watch something else whilst folk catch up with gossip, make plans to go out, or choose watch something else like a DVD or a film? So the TV was tuned to a particular channel for, say, the evening news but no-one is actually watching anymore.... Edited October 30, 2017 by Martin Mauger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 FIGURES for terrestrial TV (BBC, ITV, etc) are calculated by information gathered from a few thousand people whose choice of programmes are regularly monitored. Probably about as reliable as an opinion poll. Viewers watching via Sky or BT boxes, for example, can be calculated far more accurately. For example: if you call Sky with a problem they can tell what you are watching. Cannot do that with terrestrial. I wonder how many people they've come across who've had problems accessing those channels for the more discerning gentleman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef robin Posted November 2, 2017 Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) How many screens have these gents come across. Edited November 2, 2017 by beefy keefy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttons Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Steve Shovlar on the Poole thread stating no more coverage of league racing!! anyone know if that is correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 I've heard the same unfortunately. Deal on the table but nothing agreed and apparently they are a long way off. Still a chance they can sort it though To early to panic just yet. But without the little TV money they get then clubs could struggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner85 Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Bt sport will be trying to get Speedway at the lowest price they can... so negotiations will not be fast or easy. Time and tide will yield the answer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Steve Shovlar on the Poole thread stating no more coverage of league racing!! anyone know if that is correct? Great news! Want to watch speedway? Then go and pay at the turnstiles to see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieIpswich Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Bspa should accept what is offered £0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argos Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 I’m sure Terry Russell will be using all is eastend blaggar to sort a deal out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 without media coverage i think that will be the end in a couple of years with talk of top riders returning a tv deal is a must imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Steve Shovlar on the Poole thread stating no more coverage of league racing!! anyone know if that is correct? THINK that is premature 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dodds Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 without media coverage i think that will be the end in a couple of years with talk of top riders returning a tv deal is a must imo Only for those who only watch on TV. Any TV deal must see the company pay a substantial amount of money. Don't forget BT paid big bucks for Moto GP, Australian Cricket and £8 million per match for football. They charge viewers to watch. They want speedway because they have no other live evening sport to show during the summer. No cash ... no deal. It is about bringing money into the sport, not making it easier for those who don't put money into speedway to watch from their armchairs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieIpswich Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Only for those who only watch on TV. Any TV deal must see the company pay a substantial amount of money. Don't forget BT paid big bucks for Moto GP, Australian Cricket and £8 million per match for football. They charge viewers to watch. They want speedway because they have no other live evening sport to show during the summer. No cash ... no deal. It is about bringing money into the sport, not making it easier for those who don't put money into speedway to watch from their armchairs. Domestic speedway has no value and the BSPA are the ones to blame, all the sports you mention are professionally run, marketed sports with large fan bases, British speedway is purely amateur run by amateurs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 until the bspa give up the reins of running our sport it will never change and let an independent body run it it will just keep going hill imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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