Bt Sport Coverage

[PHILIPRISING]

Shame someone in the BSPA hasn't got the ability to do the deal, Instead of much needed revenue going outside of the sport.

NOT unusual in any sport ... IMG, for example, negotiate TV deals for many sports. Don't do it for nothing.

 

90 per cent of something (not saying this is what it is) is better than 100 per cent of nothing.

Edited November 30, 2017 by PHILIPRISING

[waytogo28]

NOT unusual in any sport ... IMG, for example, negotiate TV deals for many sports. Don't do it for nothing.

 

90 per cent of something (not saying this is what it is) is better than 100 per cent of nothing.

 

I was reliably informed that it is 20%. So yes 80% is worth having but someone who truly cares about the sport might have considered waiving their fee now the Sky deal has ended. Hmmmm.

[nobrakeshere1]

Likewise, been watching our boys in Oz too!

Some of the quality has been near awful but on the whole okish with a good signal.

Love periscope for all the cycle speedway stuff tho, including all the major British events over here too.

 

This thread amazes me, There should never be any question about the need for a deal with BT. Speedway is in desperate need of a wider audience, advertising if you like, TV gives that to both the sport and riders. Very few products become popular without exposure to the public, corn flakes, cars, airlines etc etc all are all advertised on TV - getting the product known is vital. Granted the actual product has to be half decent but that's another topic!

 

Getting a minority sport onto TV is not easy, you can spend many hours trying to find a suitable production company (not easy) who will then get slots on Sky or whatever, but it costs money and is certainly not viable on a weekly basis. Never tried to get a live event out there but I imagine that would be extra difficult. IMO opinion if BT are going to do the job for free then speedway in it's current state should bite their hands off.

 

I've seen the cycle speedway from Australia, it's fine but I suspect the only people who will watch periscope are those who have an interest in the first place,

[MattK]

 

I was reliably informed that it is 20%. So yes 80% is worth having but someone who truly cares about the sport might have considered waiving their fee now the Sky deal has ended. Hmmmm.

 

How much of his commission is used to prop-up Swindon?

[The Cheese]

Even if they aren't getting offered any money and BT are just prepared to cover the costs of showing meetings I don't see why anyone with sense would turn that down.

Most clubs had 1 home meeting shown last year, surely the added sponsorship deals that can be made from being shown on TV is worth more than a few people who don't bother turning up because they can watch it at home? And if people are not attending tracks because a meeting from elsewhere is being shown then perhaps promoters should be asking themselves why people prefer to stay at home and watch something they could easily record instead of just blaming it for their problems.

 

It's about time that it was made public who votes for what at these meetings, just like in other sports.

[semion]

NOT unusual in any sport ... IMG, for example, negotiate TV deals for many sports. Don't do it for nothing.

 

90 per cent of something (not saying this is what it is) is better than 100 per cent of nothing.

No not usual in Sport, however in a Sport that is on the bones of its ass it could be suggested that the % that Russell takes out is more needed staying in the Sport rather than in his back pocket.

 

Maybe you disagree ?

[OldRacer]

No not usual in Sport, however in a Sport that is on the bones of its ass it could be suggested that the % that Russell takes out is more needed staying in the Sport rather than in his back pocket.

 

Maybe you disagree ?

 

If he is a good enough negotiator that he can get more money for British Speedway, after his commission, than they could have got without him, they are ahead. It is not a zero sum game.

[semion]

Shame with all these top businessmen/Promoters in the Sport that a couple of those don't have the skills to get a reduced package with a new provider.

[PHILIPRISING]

No not usual in Sport, however in a Sport that is on the bones of its ass it could be suggested that the % that Russell takes out is more needed staying in the Sport rather than in his back pocket.

 

Maybe you disagree ?

AS has already been eluded to, probably helps Swindon survive. But, even if it doesn't, if Terry provides. money that the sport wouldn't otherwise have, what's the problem?

[flagrag]

I had the opportunity to have a good catch up with some former colleagues yesterday after a trade event at the Oval in London they gave me the latest as far they are aware from the BT side.

 

Deal has been offered to BSPA which is that BT will cover all production costs and each staging club will get a £3000 meeting fee.

 

In return BT want minimum of 7 GP riders in the league, a minimum of 10 meetings to televise, All TV meetings apart from finals to be £10 or complimentary and full co operation of all clubs with regards to fixtures so the best meetings can be broadcast.

 

Now some promotors are refusing to sign the deal as they feel they are being undervalued and that they are looking for more money per meeting and want some payment towards rights.

 

It has to be all clubs or none that's the deal I just hope the No brigade can be convinced soon to save the deal.

[A ORLOV]

With this rule of only one rider over 8 per team, that kills the requirement of a minimum of 7 GP riders, as we have 8 teams and 7 riders over 8 points, some of whom are not current GP riders.

I wonder if the bspa will accept the deal and get rid of this daft one over 8 rule.

Edited November 30, 2017 by A ORLOV

[Liontamer]

I find it utterly inconceivable that any promoter would turn that deal down. If they do, then speedway in this country is screwed. For the sake of the sport name those who are against this deal,utter, utter delusional idiots.

[Pirate Nick]

I had the opportunity to have a good catch up with some former colleagues yesterday after a trade event at the Oval in London they gave me the latest as far they are aware from the BT side.

Deal has been offered to BSPA which is that BT will cover all production costs and each staging club will get a £3000 meeting fee.

In return BT want minimum of 7 GP riders in the league, a minimum of 10 meetings to televise, All TV meetings apart from finals to be £10 or complimentary and full co operation of all clubs with regards to fixtures so the best meetings can be broadcast.

Now some promotors are refusing to sign the deal as they feel they are being undervalued and that they are looking for more money per meeting and want some payment towards rights.

It has to be all clubs or none that's the deal I just hope the No brigade can be convinced soon to save the deal.

I’d be interested to know the attendance figures for televised meetings against non televised meetings.

[CookieIpswich]

I had the opportunity to have a good catch up with some former colleagues yesterday after a trade event at the Oval in London they gave me the latest as far they are aware from the BT side.

 

Deal has been offered to BSPA which is that BT will cover all production costs and each staging club will get a £3000 meeting fee.

 

In return BT want minimum of 7 GP riders in the league, a minimum of 10 meetings to televise, All TV meetings apart from finals to be £10 or complimentary and full co operation of all clubs with regards to fixtures so the best meetings can be broadcast.

 

Now some promotors are refusing to sign the deal as they feel they are being undervalued and that they are looking for more money per meeting and want some payment towards rights.

 

It has to be all clubs or none that's the deal I just hope the No brigade can be convinced soon to save the deal.

Ok so i would say bspa would be mad to not sign this deal

 

However if BT Sport want 7 GP riders they need to understand that clubs need to pay these guys over the duration of the season and clubs will be lucky to get 2 or more televised meetings so £6k won't cover a GP riders salary for a full season

 

So what BT Sport are offering is damaging to the sport imo

 

A compromise must be met and a £3k match fee based on current team building should be agreeable with a view of BT Sport increasing involvement in the future to attract GP riders

 

But the BSPA need to submit a 5 years orbit plan to show how the sport can be progressed with BT involvement

[Steve Shovlar]

BT offering 3K to televise a live meeting is taking the P. Seriously. That is 150 people through the turnstiles at normal prices and 300 at a tenner. Clubs could easily lose 300 for a bt meeting meaning they are seriously out of pocket. No wonder some are not happy. Cant say I blame the promoters to be honest. BT can offer more and should offer more.

 

BSPA would make a stack load more money going ppv online with a fiver a meeting to watch the feed. Plus they can still charge £17 entry.

 

I should imagine 10,000 a meeting would be a fairer price for gp riders and a tenner entry.

Edited November 30, 2017 by Steve Shovlar

[stevebrum]

This thread amazes me, There should never be any question about the need for a deal with BT. Speedway is in desperate need of a wider audience, advertising if you like, TV gives that to both the sport and riders. Very few products become popular without exposure to the public, corn flakes, cars, airlines etc etc all are all advertised on TV - getting the product known is vital. Granted the actual product has to be half decent but that's another topic!

 

Getting a minority sport onto TV is not easy, you can spend many hours trying to find a suitable production company (not easy) who will then get slots on Sky or whatever, but it costs money and is certainly not viable on a weekly basis. Never tried to get a live event out there but I imagine that would be extra difficult. IMO opinion if BT are going to do the job for free then speedway in it's current state should bite their hands off.

 

I've seen the cycle speedway from Australia, it's fine but I suspect the only people who will watch periscope are those who have an interest in the first place,

Absolutely no question of a doubt for me. We need BT of any TV company that wants to take the sport on.

As previously proved plenty were watching the various previous coverage that some had filmed on periscope of speedway which shows people will watch a sport they love on any platform they can.

It's only when SKY and then the club's clamped down on the recordings that halted the coverage on periscope.

What we need is a major player, and BT seem to want us.

Can't believe there isnt one promoter that can't see the bigger picture - other than the one that cares only about lining their own pockets.

[Mattfordfan]

What you guys dont realise is the fact that the sport is dying over here.

 

Sky got out and now BT are taking the mickey because they hold all the cards.

 

British Speedway needs a TV contract otherwise its goodnight for some as the rely on a bit of TV money and BT know that and that's why they want a bargain deal.

[CookieIpswich]

BT offering 3K to televise a live meeting is taking the P. Seriously. That is 150 people through the turnstiles at normal prices and 300 at a tenner. Clubs could easily lose 300 for a bt meeting meaning they are seriously out of pocket. No wonder some are not happy. Cant say I blame the promoters to be honest. BT can offer more and should offer more.

 

BSPA would make a stack load more money going ppv online with a fiver a meeting to watch the feed. Plus they can still charge £17 entry.

 

I should imagine 10,000 a meeting would be a fairer price for gp riders and a tenner entry.

Agree and disagree here

 

Shouldn't pay more just because they can, bspa are responsible for adding value to get more

 

But £3k offer from BT demanding GP riders is ok for a one off meeting won't cover a full season and clubs will only get 2-3 live meetings max

 

Not sure if speedway will get more on PPV, I done a free stream once with ex UFC athletes worldwide stream reached six figures including royalty in Saudi Arabia

 

I know other shows who charged £6.99 and they got less than 100/150 buys

 

Speedway demographic is older so unlikely they'll get to grips with streaming either plus will fans go out of their way to pay money every week to watch clubs they don't support for £10?

[waytogo28]

I find it utterly inconceivable that any promoter would turn that deal down. If they do, then speedway in this country is screwed. For the sake of the sport name those who are against this deal,utter, utter delusional idiots.

 

While BSPA are huffing and puffing to "Big Up" GB Speedway, they must surely be in deep discussion with the other two or three broadcasters eager to televise speedway?

[Wolfsbane]

I just wish they'd get a wriggle on so I can cancel due to the price rise without penalty in the set time if there's no coverage