Mark Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 It's really good to have speedway on BT Sport but whoever is directing the coverage needs to up his/her game. Camera angles not wide enough so we miss riders who are making attacking moves and, worse still, the director keeps changing the picture away from the real action. Instead we get a close up of one rider who is clear of the rest. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theboss Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) It's really good to have speedway on BT Sport but whoever is directing the coverage needs to up his/her game. Camera angles not wide enough so we miss riders who are making attacking moves and, worse still, the director keeps changing the picture away from the real action. Instead we get a close up of one rider who is clear of the rest.Shocking! Been watching at home and looks like being directed by a 5 year old. Missed so many of the passenger and exciting parts of the racing. Also don't understand the constant close ups of Debbie Hancock.... Not relevant and certainly not attractive Edited August 7, 2017 by jchapman 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisperer Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 Shocking! Been watching at home and looks like being directed by a 5 year old. Missed so many of the passenger and exciting parts of the racing.  Also don't understand the constant close ups of Debbie Hancock.... Not relevant and certainly not attractive  Muck Fe you're on it tonight !!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonmole Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 Shocking! Been watching at home and looks like being directed by a 5 year old. Missed so many of the passenger and exciting parts of the racing. Â Also don't understand the constant close ups of Debbie Hancock.... Not relevant and certainly not attractive You're no oil painting yourself ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike1944 Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 At least BT Sport are showing speedway for the many people who cannot get to the meetings, easy to criticise but I would sooner have a few relatively minor imperfections than no speedway at all. Remember this is the first year BT have covered speedway so give them some slack rather than moan, moan, moan 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 At least BT Sport are showing speedway for the many people who cannot get to the meetings, easy to criticise but I would sooner have a few relatively minor imperfections than no speedway at all. Remember this is the first year BT have covered speedway so give them some slack rather than moan, moan, moan I never got this weird way how people defend poor quality television with the defence, 'at least we have speedway on TV'. Â Yes we have speedway on TV, but the others are right, the coverage was not keeping up with the bikes in key moment tonight. Fundamental stuff. Nothing wrong with wanting 'quality TV' for our speedway coverage. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theboss Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 You're no oil painting yourself ... Â Agreed and I would not be happy of camera kept on focusing on me. I am not saying she asked for it to happen and could well be p**sed off when she watches the meeting but the question still remains... why the hell did the producer keep on showing Miss Hancock standing there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 At least BT manage to find the youngsters in the crowd. All Sky ever showed was wrinklies old age pensioners and dogs  Agreed and I would not be happy of camera kept on focusing on me. I am not saying she asked for it to happen and could well be p**sed off when she watches the meeting but the question still remains... why the hell did the producer keep on showing Miss Hancock standing there?  Probably because he knows very little about speedway and thinks a female in charge is a novelty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theboss Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 At least BT manage to find the youngsters in the crowd. All Sky ever showed was wrinklies old age pensioners and dogs  Agreed, it seems a rarity at any track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) I must say I do find the production,directing and vision mixing of the league Speedway quite confusing this year. Â The guy in charge is very experienced and in fact would say he is the master of directing Speedway tv production having done 100s of GPs and has done the world cups as well but not really sure what's going on with the league coverage. Â I am unsure whether he is being let down by a more junior production team and vision mixer than he is used to or whether as there is less cameras is struggling to produce it in the way as you can the GPs. This may be why they keep cutting to Debbie and Colin Pratt as they haven't got the on track angles to make the coverage seem varied. Â I have also noticed that now the nights are starting to draw in that more of the meetings are being done in the dark the age and quality of equipment being used is starting to show as needs more light than what new kit can operate with. Â This year was always going to be difficult as has been said many times on here it is being done to a tight budget to keep costs as low as possible. Â Let's hope that 2018 it can continue to be on TV whether it be on BT or back on Sky the main thing is live British Speedway on TV whichever way there will be improvements to coverage as can be budgeted and funded correctly. Edited August 7, 2017 by flagrag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 and surely we hoping that BT seem it fit to press on with coverage for 2018. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theboss Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 I must say I do find the production,directing and vision mixing of the league Speedway quite confusing this year. Â The guy in charge is very experienced and in fact would say he is the master of directing Speedway tv production having done 100s of GPs and has done the world cups as well but not really sure what's going on with the league coverage. Â I am unsure whether he is being let down by a more junior production team and vision mixer than he is used to or whether as there is less cameras is struggling to produce it in the way as you can the GPs. This may be why they keep cutting to Debbie and Colin Pratt as they haven't got the on track angles to make the coverage seem varied. Â I have also noticed that now the nights are starting to draw in that more of the meetings are being done in the dark the age and quality of equipment being used is starting to show as needs more light than what new kit can operate with. Â This year was always going to be difficult as has been said many times on here it is being done to a tight budget to keep costs as low as possible. Â Let's hope that 2018 it can continue to be on TV whether it be on BT or back on Sky the main thing is live British Speedway on TV whichever way there will be improvements to coverage as can be budgeted and funded correctly. Thank you for taking the time to explain. I can not imagine this quality of production will put any existing speedway fans off, but I seriously doubt it will tempt new ones to watch again and certainly pubs and venues with TVs will notice the poor quality. Hence viewing figures will get hit over the season if it carries on like this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 Â Agreed and I would not be happy of camera kept on focusing on me. I am not saying she asked for it to happen and could well be p**sed off when she watches the meeting but the question still remains... why the hell did the producer keep on showing Miss Hancock standing there? Maybe he couldnt find Buster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 Let's hope that 2018 it can continue to be on TV whether it be on BT or back on Sky Is it still in the contractual pipeline that Sky might take it back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liontamer Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 [quote name="jchapman"  Also don't understand the constant close ups of Debbie Hancock.... Not relevant and certainly not attractive  No need for comments like that.Childish & spiteful. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonmole Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 Â Agreed and I would not be happy of camera kept on focusing on me. I am not saying she asked for it to happen and could well be p**sed off when she watches the meeting but the question still remains... why the hell did the producer keep on showing Miss Hancock standing there? Yes that's a good point ... though you didn't need to diss Mrs Hancock (I don't know if you have history with her!). As women in speedway go, she's not bad at all! Colin Pratt is no Colin Firth either. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted August 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) Shocking! Been watching at home and looks like being directed by a 5 year old. Missed so many of the passenger and exciting parts of the racing. Â Also don't understand the constant close ups of Debbie Hancock.... Not relevant and certainly not attractive Not relevant what Mrs Hancock looks like but should only judge on her skill in promotion. No need to comment on attractiveness. Edited August 7, 2017 by marky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) The Return - I cannot say obviously from a BSPA/Go Speed side about Speedway returning to Sky sports whether they would be interested but from a Sky side the door is not closed and locked, Â if the conditions were right and some of the improvements that Sky have previously suggested have been implemented like reduced entry fees and more promotions combined with the positive viewing figures has not gone unnoticed by the powers that be at Sky especially with how some recent tv rights auctions have gone for other sports and rebranding of channels. Â Speedway would actually be a good fit for Sky sports Action channel with regular live content. Â Unfortunately the end decision is not with me otherwise we would be having a UHD 24camera & Dolby Atmos super production 😀 Edited August 7, 2017 by flagrag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theboss Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 Yes that's a good point ... though you didn't need to diss Mrs Hancock (I don't know if you have history with her!). As women in speedway go, she's not bad at all! Colin Pratt is no Colin Firth either. I think Debbie is a good and honest speedway promoter and my comment was flippant based on the fact cameras will often focus on start line girls because they they clearly think it keeps the average viewer happy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) I personally think Debbie is attractive, she also seems like a really nice person. Â However, she would want to be judged on her promotional abilities, not her looks. Â Somerset as a club are growing on and off the track. Edited August 7, 2017 by Jeremy Corbyn Fan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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