foamfence Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 So where do you draw the line? Do you ban riders from racing in the World Cup, as both Workington and Newcastle rode without their heatleaders during SWC week? No, representing your country is OK but at the start of the season promoters were signing riders who they knew would be absent because of league requirements abroad and other commitments and as the season progresses the Poles and others alter their schedules and riders are unexpectedly called away. As it is, Poland is starting to have a lot more meetings other than Sunday and Sweden is considering radical changes to it's league set-up, so changing to one or two race nights might not be as beneficial as imagined. I can't see it happening anyway. There are two issues. Firstly more riders miss meetings due to doubling up than riding for overseas clubs. Secondly is diluting the strength of our league even more really the solution? Do we want a league where the likes of Bewley and Lambert cannot race if they want to fulfil their potential? What we need is seven riders ready willing and able and one big league but the guys who own the clubs and put their money where their mouth is, will go the way they want to go, irrespective of what your or I might say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 The Premiership can't deal with the Championship. So no chance they can work to do a deal with Poland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 I have a Polish friend who wrote me a few weeks back about the current state of Polish speedway. Behind Extraleague and Nice league the feeder system is collapsing. Not enough juniors coming through and so on... Now I dont want tremmor or anyone attacking me, I'm not attacking anyone. Just saying that the Polish system is not working perfect at the bottom end either. At one point they need help. Like Sweden did with Finland. At one point a few years back they were gods, denied Finnish riders from 85cc and 500cc 1st division. Now they are open again because there are not enough riders of their own. So co-operation is needed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 just read on fb that Poland is going to insist on riders performing in ONE league only next year we might just have some radical changes forced upon us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 just read on fb that Poland is going to insist on riders performing in ONE league only next year we might just have some radical changes forced upon us That will probably mean the end of any of the top Riders coming here. Sad really. It certainly will not help British Speedway and it's standing in the World. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 just read on fb that Poland is going to insist on riders performing in ONE league only next year we might just have some radical changes forced upon us It might just prove to be a good thing, less financial outlay and less absences. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 That will probably mean the end of any of the top Riders coming here. Sad really. It certainly will not help British Speedway and it's standing in the World. More of a concern is that it means any Brit who wants to be world class will need to quit British speedway at some point.On the plus side it may mean swedes and Danes choose to skip Poland and ride three leagues elsewhere if they are not guaranteed team places (and in fact do either of those countries have requirement to ride in home leagues or face consequences?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 just read on fb that Poland is going to insist on riders performing in ONE league only next year we might just have some radical changes forced upon us Two years ago I read that no APD no speedway. We still ride in Finland. One league only??? FFS just read on fb that Poland is going to insist on riders performing in ONE league only next year we might just have some radical changes forced upon us Two years ago I read that no APD no speedway. We still ride in Finland. One league only??? FFS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 One league only, who will commit to Poland alone? Will the Swedes and Danes have to race in their countries so no Poland for them? Basically, if true, Poland are going it alone......interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 If that is the case (one league) then let's see these riders manage on only 14 meetings a year. Not long before the excuses of not enough meetings / rusty etc. Can't wait to see it all implode, karma for those who think they can run the sport by throwing money at everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 If that is the case (one league) then let's see these riders manage on only 14 meetings a year. Not long before the excuses of not enough meetings / rusty etc. Can't wait to see it all implode, karma for those who think they can run the sport by throwing money at everything.Surely every sport is dominated by those who through money at it? Certainly Football Cricket rugby RL etcI imagine the poles will organise more and more individual and pairs meetings for the top riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 One league only, who will commit to Poland alone? Will the Swedes and Danes have to race in their countries so no Poland for them? Basically, if true, Poland are going it alone......interesting.Everything I have seen has said one league in addition to the Polish league... Not one league in total. There was also a proposal put to the FIM where each of the main leagues had fixed race nights and had priority on those. Presumably they were willing to be more flexible with league numbers for riders if this was introduced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Everything I have seen has said one league in addition to the Polish league... Not one league in total. There was also a proposal put to the FIM where each of the main leagues had fixed race nights and had priority on those. Presumably they were willing to be more flexible with league numbers for riders if this was introduced. Seems to me the Poles are taking reasonable steps to safeguard their investment in their leagues.Bad news for Britsin though, zero or two other leagues I think there was still the opportunity to get TOP riders. Now the only possibility would seem to be if say Doyle or Holder decide that the benefits of being based in Britain outweighs the extra earnings in Sweden. Or could they actually still base themselves on the uk without a work visa by demonstrating they had sufficient income overseas to support themselves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Everything I have seen has said one league in addition to the Polish league... Not one league in total. There was also a proposal put to the FIM where each of the main leagues had fixed race nights and had priority on those. Presumably they were willing to be more flexible with league numbers for riders if this was introduced. That is what I thought the proposal was, Poland and one other, we'll see no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Not sure about Sweden.Could well clamp down if riders choose to miss their league,but doubt they would.But didn't they threaten riders before with suspensions?Not sure of the reasons now,but Jonason and Lindgren come to mind With Denmark,it would obviously be a disaster if top riders miss out as they are the stars that attract the crowds.Danish fans are similar to Poles and don't support foreigners like they do their own riders.Quite a bit probably depends on what sponsorship they have and if that is based upon being seen in Denmark and on danish TV.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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