SteveLyric2 Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 I wish people would read the official statements about Jack Holder before coming on here with all their suppositions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 I wish people would read the official statements about Jack Holder before coming on here with all their suppositions.Only the Peterborough one to go on, plus SCB took a photo of the rule that says the 4's are compulsory unless you're injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 It's all about watching speedway as opposed to playing with statistics on the computer, and being intelligent enough to understand that no two days in life are the same whatever one is doing. If you've played any sport at all you would understand that more. One day everything clicks and you feel like a world champion. The next day you perform as if you've never played the game before. That's real life, not a computer simulation. Im intelligent enough to know that no 2 days are the same. Â I was number 4 in the country in my 'sport' when i was 10 (retired at 13 lol) Â My youngest daughter is a British Champion in her sport. Â I know reality is different but the doom and gloom of some Poole fans re this match i dont get. Â You won there last time, Masters is out and KK is gone who only got 4. Surely you must feel confident? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Im intelligent enough to know that no 2 days are the same. Â I was number 4 in the country in my 'sport' when i was 10 (retired at 13 lol) Â My youngest daughter is a British Champion in her sport. Â I know reality is different but the doom and gloom of some Poole fans re this match i dont get. Â You won there last time, Masters is out and KK is gone who only got 4. Surely you must feel confident? Depends if Jack and Richie are riding.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Depends if Jack and Richie are riding.. Cant see why Jack Holder should be banned for Poole...the issue is with Peterborough and Torun.........would be wrong if he wasnt allowed to ride for Poole. Â And yes Worrall at Monmore is a big loss. Starke can cover him a little bit but Shanes isnt great at Wolves so Starke may have 7 rides here if Worrall is missing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Ritchie would be a big loss as he was terrific last time and Starke isn't riding as well as he was and he isnt the only one who has dropped a bit lately. So expecting a big defeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) Only the Peterborough one to go on, plus SCB took a photo of the rule that says the 4's are compulsory unless you're injured. They are BSPA rules and a BSPA member (and the Host BSPA Promoter) has given permission for Jack to ride in Poland as injury cover for Hancock. Â Predzpelski would have covered if he hadn't been recently injured in this country and Miedzinski hadn't got injured again!! Im intelligent enough to know that no 2 days are the same. Â I was number 4 in the country in my 'sport' when i was 10 (retired at 13 lol) Â My youngest daughter is a British Champion in her sport. Â I know reality is different but the doom and gloom of some Poole fans re this match i dont get. Â You won there last time, Masters is out and KK is gone who only got 4. Surely you must feel confident? So Poole fans - you know the ones who have actually watched them race - should take little notice of current and recent form since the last Wolves meeting then>?? Edited August 6, 2017 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 They are BSPA rules and a BSPA member (and the Host BSPA Promoter) has given permission for Jack to ride in Poland as injury cover for Hancock. Â Predzpelski would have covered if he hadn't been recently injured in this country and Miedzinski hadn't got injured again!! So Poole fans - you know the ones who have actually watched them race - should take little notice of current and recent form since the last Wolves meeting then>?? Nope not saying that at all. Â But if you win somewhere and fairly recent as well..............you dont feel like you could do it again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 They are BSPA rules and a BSPA member (and the Host BSPA Promoter) has given permission for Jack to ride in Poland as injury cover for Hancock. Â Predzpelski would have covered if he hadn't been recently injured in this country and Miedzinski hadn't got injured again!! So Poole fans - you know the ones who have actually watched them race - should take little notice of current and recent form since the last Wolves meeting then>?? Think you are "clutching at straws" here Skidder. Firstly they are SCB rules and 1 promoter can think he can do what he likes but he can`t. There is a ban coming - there is no doubt about that !!!!! Przedpelski could well be riding today anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Think you are "clutching at straws" here Skidder. Firstly they are SCB rules and 1 promoter can think he can do what he likes but he can`t. There is a ban coming - there is no doubt about that !!!!! Przedpelski could well be riding today anyway. Jack Holder has to be banned pure and simple. Â However i dont agree he should get a ban for Poole as they have played no part in this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Think you are "clutching at straws" here Skidder. Firstly they are SCB rules and 1 promoter can think he can do what he likes but he can`t. There is a ban coming - there is no doubt about that !!!!! Przedpelski could well be riding today anyway. No ban for Jack according to the BSPA statement, because he was given permission by his promotion. BSPA to take issue with Peterborough over their agreement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 No ban for Jack according to the BSPA statement, because he was given permission by his promotion. BSPA to take issue with Peterborough over their agreement.Glad he isnt banned but we will get thrashed at Wolves with or without him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Glad he isnt banned but we will get thrashed at Wolves with or without himHardly going to make a difference to our season if he got banned or not tbh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 If jack is banned it will be for 28 day's from riding in the uk not just peterborough surely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 If jack is banned it will be for 28 day's from riding in the uk not just peterborough surelyHe's not getting the 28 day ban. He'd only get that if he didn't have Peterborough's permission. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) Any BSPA sanctions will be taken against the Peterborough promotion - even though the Panthers 4 still won the 4's today without Jack!!! Edited August 6, 2017 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Any BSPA sanctions will be taken against the Peterborough promotion - even though the Panthers 4 still won the 4's today without Jack!!! Â That destroys the entire case against the Panthers. Â If a club feels they don't need a rider for a meeting then they should be able to release that rider. Â Who's to say Jack Holder would have matched Simon Lambert's score? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Cant see why Jack Holder should be banned for Poole...the issue is with Peterborough and Torun.........would be wrong if he wasnt allowed to ride for Poole.  And yes Worrall at Monmore is a big loss. Starke can cover him a little bit but Shanes isnt great at Wolves so Starke may have 7 rides here if Worrall is missing  the BSPA statement lays the blame with Peterborough, rightly so.  No ban for Jack according to the BSPA statement, because he was given permission by his promotion. BSPA to take issue with Peterborough over their agreement. Sensible statement it was too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 I was hoping to see the BSPA Chairman present the prestigious BSPA Championship 4's trophy to the winners today - but apparently he didn't?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 I was hoping to see the BSPA Chairman present the prestigious BSPA Championship 4's trophy to the winners today - but apparently he didn't?! Think he was at home feeding his dogs.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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