foreverblue Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Totally disrespectful to British Speedway and the 2 teams they will be visiting in particular. Disgraceful and should be made an example of (both rider and promotion) Apparently Peterborough are quite happy with the arrangement, i wouldn't be happy as a fan though with the home side depleted, BWD has had a good season but he is no Jack Holder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Apparently Peterborough are quite happy with the arrangement, i wouldn't be happy as a fan though with the home side depleted, BWD has had a good season but he is no Jack Holder.Berwick were quite happy with an arrangement to sign an injury replacement for NBJ after the cut off date but it was denied as its against the rules. The same applies here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) Apparently Peterborough are quite happy with the arrangement, i wouldn't be happy as a fan though with the home side depleted, BWD has had a good season but he is no Jack Holder. I wouldn't be happy as a fan neither.And by the looks of it they(Peterborough)will be happy going with no facility to cover his absence against Newcastle and Scunthorpe if he is chosen to ride for Torun.Another kick in the teeth for the fans. No Peterborough just use a NL rider in those meetings. So had it been Poole meetings he was to miss you would be quite happy for them to use no facility. Edited August 5, 2017 by tellboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 I wouldn't be happy as a fan neither.And by the looks of it they(Peterborough)will be happy going with no facility to cover his absence against Newcastle and Scunthorpe if he is chosen to ride for Torun.Another kick in the teeth for the fans. So had it been Poole meetings he was to miss you would be quite happy for them to use no facility. Matt Ford was the one promoter who wouldn't bow down to Torun and sign Holder over. It's been well documented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Matt Ford was the one promoter who wouldn't bow down to Torun and sign Holder over. It's been well documented. That wasn't the question.You made it sound like it's ok for Peterborough fans to miss out.So thought i would ask you whether you would be happy for Poole to use the no facility option.But as usual you give a politicians answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 What is the rain off date if it gets called off in Poland on Sunday? Not Monday is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 That wasn't the question.You made it sound like it's ok for Peterborough fans to miss out.So thought i would ask you whether you would be happy for Poole to use the no facility option.But as usual you give a politicians answer. No Poole fan would be happy but as we didn't bow down and accept anything the Polish say i expect Poole wouldn't allow it. I assume Torun gave Peterborough a sweetener which is why they want the fans to not moan but when you have one of the meetings of the year and i dare say a meeting many fans look forward to and it is missing the home teams spearhead it cannot be easy to swallow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 That wasn't the question.You made it sound like it's ok for Peterborough fans to miss out.So thought i would ask you whether you would be happy for Poole to use the no facility option.But as usual you give a politicians answer.Ingave an answer. matt Ford refused to sign a document allowing Polish clubs first dabs on a rider even if it was a re-arranged fixture. So the situation would not arise. Whatever Peterborough do is their business. Clearly they are happy as probably got some compo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB252 Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Whether Peterborough are happy is irrelevant. The rules clearly state that missing a BSPA shared event results in a ban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 What is the rain off date if it gets called off in Poland on Sunday? Not Monday is it? He won`t be riding at Wolves- he will be banned. You wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) He won`t be riding at Wolves- he will be banned. You wait and see. Then why wasn't Thorsell? He missed a Wolves fixture for a re-arranged Polish meeting. Edited August 5, 2017 by Steve Shovlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Then why wasn't Thorsell? He missed a Wolves fixture for a re-arranged Polish meeting. Quite simple - the BSPA knew full well there was a possibility of that occurance happening - so they had arrangements in place. Holder is altogether different. Once he signed for Peterborough in the Championship, apart from clashes with Premiership and FIM commitments- he knew, the BSPA knew that he had to honour his UK Commitments first. He hasn`t done that and will result in a ban. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 When i have seen him at Monmore, he usually has two good rides an average ride and a bad ride, that is what i mean, with his ability he should be getting double figures most weeks. Odd comment fb. Of the 12 home matches he has scored double figures (including paid double points ) 6 times. 50%. Of those he didn't he scored 9 three times and 8 twice! I'd say that is pretty consistent! ! Then why wasn't Thorsell? He missed a Wolves fixture for a re-arranged Polish meeting. Post 72 explains it perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Sorry, Wolves, but I hope the princes of darkness win this just so Swindon can top the league cos the play offs can be a lottery! Feel sick saying it though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Odd comment fb. Of the 12 home matches he has scored double figures (including paid double points ) 6 times. 50%. Of those he didn't he scored 9 three times and 8 twice! I'd say that is pretty consistent! ! Post 72 explains it perfectly. you can't have one rule for one rider and a different rule for another. All rules should be the same. I would be stunned after Matt Ford refused Poland to use Holder, that Peterborough did so without his permission, considering Holder is a Poole rider first and foremost and only loaned to Peterborough this season. How could a championship club go behind a premier clubs back, and broker a deal with Poland for a rider they don't own, that would see Holder banned from riding for his parent club Poole? It makes no sense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 you can't have one rule for one rider and a different rule for another. All rules should be the same. I would be stunned after Matt Ford refused Poland to use Holder, that Peterborough did so without his permission, considering Holder is a Poole rider first and foremost and only loaned to Peterborough this season. How could a championship club go behind a premier clubs back, and broker a deal with Poland for a rider they don't own, that would see Holder banned from riding for his parent club Poole? It makes no sense. That's a issue between Poole and Peterborough then. Nothing to do with the rules being the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) there is considerable logic in that post,but who knows?? edit reply is to ss post Edited August 5, 2017 by poole keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Sorry, Wolves, but I hope the princes of darkness win this just so Swindon can top the league cos the play offs can be a lottery! Feel sick saying it though! Wolves will win but Swindon will still top the table, so don't worry about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Baz Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Im stunned why Poole fans have no faith in their team.......winning at Monmore last time and now going back stronger??? If Poole lose this by 10 or more then there must be something very wrong in the pirates camp. Ive listed the facts of the last meeting compared to this...if you have a different opinion to those facts then please tell me! It's all about watching speedway as opposed to playing with statistics on the computer, and being intelligent enough to understand that no two days in life are the same whatever one is doing. If you've played any sport at all you would understand that more. One day everything clicks and you feel like a world champion. The next day you perform as if you've never played the game before. That's real life, not a computer simulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Richie has pulled out of the 4's today, so must be a doubt for tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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