Dave Jones Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 He had a medical certificate - there is no debate - despite what you may think/want He had a certificate , but I think there is plenty of room for debate. I accept he won't be punished, however I believe he knew the consequences of his actions when withdrawing, so covered his "rear" with a certificate, which seem to be handed out like confetti in the world of speedway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 He had a medical certificate - there is no debate - despite what you may think/want Please could TB or his representative scan the alleged certificate and display it on here? No such certificate was issued by anyone with the authority to do so on the night. TB was just signed out of the meeting because the "injury" may have impeded his further riding that night. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 unlike Britain, where riders always get paid ontime... No, but neither is it a case of the grass always being greener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) Please could TB or his representative scan the alleged certificate and display it on here? No such certificate was issued by anyone with the authority to do so on the night. TB was just signed out of the meeting because the "injury" may have impeded his further riding that night. Well there you go Steve Zero make what you will from that post. Seems there is still plenty of room for debate. Edited August 10, 2017 by Dave Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 Bit gob smacked by all of this. Fully supported his original 28 day ban and his sacking but 9 months!!! I'm wondering if he has actually got another 28 day ban which starts from the beginning of next season and there's been some journalist licence taken. There again it doesn't change much as he couldn't ride in the UK this season anyway. Maybe it's karma for all the male cow dung he has been spouting on twitter, the comments to Graham Drury in particular were totally out of order, maybe that's what breaching rule 3.2.7 refers to. Forgive the ramblings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 Please could TB or his representative scan the alleged certificate and display it on here? No such certificate was issued by anyone with the authority to do so on the night. TB was just signed out of the meeting because the "injury" may have impeded his further riding that night. From the speedwaygb report: "But having been issued with a medical certificate, the SCB had no grounds to take action against the Queenslander.". As I said there is no debate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted August 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 Holder's tweet to Drury was pathetic. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyabb17 Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 Will that make his visa invalid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aroundtheboards Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 Will that make his visa invalid? Sure will !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 Could there possibly be more to this than is obvious?? Fully agree with his original ban, and tbh his sacking and the timing but to extend it for so long!! Have they been storing this up for a while to finally stamp on those riders who moan and whinge all the time but still take the £££££s when it suits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 Bit gob smacked by all of this. Fully supported his original 28 day ban and his sacking but 9 months!!! I'm wondering if he has actually got another 28 day ban which starts from the beginning of next season and there's been some journalist licence taken. There again it doesn't change much as he couldn't ride in the UK this season anyway. Maybe it's karma for all the male cow dung he has been spouting on twitter, the comments to Graham Drury in particular were totally out of order, maybe that's what breaching rule 3.2.7 refers to. Forgive the ramblings I was wondering if he'll get a further ban for his posts on Twitter. Calling people names is not what a professional sportsman should be doing as Lewis Bridger found out. He couldn't even be bothered to turn up and defend himself, says everything! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 Not showing up for a tribunal means Holder was showing contempt for the speedway authorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 Could there possibly be more to this than is obvious?? Fully agree with his original ban, and tbh his sacking and the timing but to extend it for so long!! Have they been storing this up for a while to finally stamp on those riders who moan and whinge all the time but still take the £££££s when it suits. I commented on this earlier , I don't see this as a 9 month ban at all. Holder is out of work in UK because the July cut off prevents anyone signing him .(same applies to Batchelor) That effectively means they are finished in this country until next march. Holder has also attracted an extra 28 days so that takes him to April. I suppose it depends on each persons view of this matter but my opinion is that in Holder's case his ban is just 28days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 I commented on this earlier , I don't see this as a 9 month ban at all. Holder is out of work in UK because the July cut off prevents anyone signing him .(same applies to Batchelor) That effectively means they are finished in this country until next march. Holder has also attracted an extra 28 days so that takes him to April. I suppose it depends on each persons view of this matter but my opinion is that in Holder's case his ban is just 28days. That's my guess too. The British season traditionally starts on March 15th, add 28 days and you get to April 13th which is when Holder is able to ride in Britain again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 So not really a ban then? If they wanted to ban him that would affect his riding in UK why didnt they say ban until end of May 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 Does this mean as he cant sign for anyone at the start of the season he wont be able to get a visa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 So not really a ban then? If they wanted to ban him that would affect his riding in UK why didnt they say ban until end of May 2018 Ah!!!! that's another can of worms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 Are people missing the point, the ban will affect his visa application for 2018 so could be missing until 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 I commented on this earlier , I don't see this as a 9 month ban at all. Holder is out of work in UK because the July cut off prevents anyone signing him .(same applies to Batchelor) That effectively means they are finished in this country until next march. Holder has also attracted an extra 28 days so that takes him to April. I suppose it depends on each persons view of this matter but my opinion is that in Holder's case his ban is just 28days. He has been banned from the evening of the meeting where he refused to ride which means August, September, part of October (if KL had made the playoffs) and mid-March to mid-April) - that's at least 3 months. So Buster's spiteful and vindictive actions were in vain - as he was already banned - not so in Batch's case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornier Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 Not necessarily true. Perhaps there are plans to have two leagues ~ North and South ~ using riders who actually want to ride in the UK. I really like the sound of this, with play offs between the top two from each league at the end of the season. I'm still optimistic this will happen while I'm still able to get to Speedway meetings.Hear hear me too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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