DC2 Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 So Holder gets punished three times? Banned for 28 days, sacked, banned for 9 months. All because Chapman put riders lives at risk by producing a dangerous track. What has this got to do with Holder? As possibly the most experienced rider, his knowledge and experience should have been listened to. Whilst the younger less experienced guys will go for it, that doesn't make it any safer for them and both Lambert and Huckenbeck both refused to ride. Why no action taken against them? Looks like Holder is being used as a scapegoat for the appalling track Buster Chapman served up. Good point, Steve. Chris Holder was totally in the right, he's far more experienced than Muddlo, Hans Andersen and Kasprzak so the whole Poole team should be fined, docked points and banned for nine months! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 So Holder gets punished three times? Banned for 28 days, sacked, banned for 9 months. All because Chapman put riders lives at risk by producing a dangerous track. Today I went paragliding at Monks Down near Blandford. There were about 15 of us. The older more skillful pilots looked at conditions, 14-18mph, and decided to wait fir the wind to mellow. The younger pilots with less experience started to set up and fly. One got blown into a tree, another got dragged through cowpats as his wing kited him along. Two hours later the more experienced took off with some reaching 3500 feet. One landed at Portland bill. What has this got to do with Holder? As possibly the most experienced rider, his knowledge and experience should have been listened to. Whilst the younger less experienced guys will go for it, that doesn't make it any safer for them and both Lambert and Huckenbeck both refused to ride. Why no action taken against them? Looks like Holder is being used as a scapegoat for the appalling track Buster Chapman served up. What utter utter crap you talk On the night you were moaning that the track was fine and Kings Lynn were a disgrace for not riding Now you say Chapman prepared a bad track..............................which is it???????? Quite rightly banned for 28 days...........no rider should be able to dictate a meeting no matter what his standing in the sport is. Sacked by his club..............spot on. No club needs troublemakers and making him unavailable to other clubs was 100% correct. Why should other riders be replaced by a rider who refused to ride and put them out of a job????? And now a 9 month ban................which ends the first week of April so hardly having any affect at all. So please tell us...........................was the track that bad they shouldnt have raced...........................or was you simply lying that night when you said the Kings Lynn riders were a disgrace for not riding and the Poole boys raced fine??? Oh and Holder wasnt the most experienced .........that would be Hans or KK I think if the track was so bad as you make out that the meeting should be declared void and re run again and Poole should have the 4 points taken away. Replay the match when the track is up to standard.......surely thats fair??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted August 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) If any good comes of this it will be the the Aussie's stop whinging. They are generally moaners, especially Schlien who really gets on my nerves. If he isn't happy then go back to Australia and work there. Simple choice., Not heard Holder's view as his promised statement hasn't been published. But if Chapman's version is right then the riders attitude stunk badly. Edited August 10, 2017 by marky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 yes he does need a visa surely Hans is more experienced??? And he rode!!And KK i would say he is pretty experienced too and by the way the track wsn't dangerous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 Holder is banned for 9 months because Buster is a spineless little corrupt coward who thinks its acceptale to send riders out on a pile of sh!t. Correct me if im wrong but didnt more KL riders refuse to go out in respective heats that night? Yet Holder is the only one who gets punished. What about Batchelor? Where is his 9 month ban for walking out? C. Holder got banned for 9 months because of two reasons. 1. Buster didn't want us having him start next season on a bargain average. 2. To punish him even further because J. Holder didn't compete in the fours. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 He's not the first rider to make a stand, and won't be the last Holder is banned for 9 months because Buster is a spineless little corrupt coward who thinks its acceptale to send riders out on a pile of sh!t. Correct me if im wrong but didnt more KL riders refuse to go out in respective heats that night? Yet Holder is the only one who gets punished. What about Batchelor? Where is his 9 month ban for walking out? C. Holder got banned for 9 months because of two reasons. 1. Buster didn't want us having him start next season on a bargain average. 2. To punish him even further because J. Holder didn't compete in the fours. Holder is banned for 9 months because Buster is a spineless little corrupt coward who thinks its acceptale to send riders out on a pile of sh!t. Correct me if im wrong but didnt more KL riders refuse to go out in respective heats that night? Yet Holder is the only one who gets punished. What about Batchelor? Where is his 9 month ban for walking out? C. Holder got banned for 9 months because of two reasons. 1. Buster didn't want us having him start next season on a bargain average. 2. To punish him even further because J. Holder didn't compete in the fours. He's not the first rider to make a stand, and won't be the last What a brilliant post, well done 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 Holder is banned for 9 months because Buster is a spineless little corrupt coward who thinks its acceptale to send riders out on a pile of sh!t. Correct me if im wrong but didnt more KL riders refuse to go out in respective heats that night? Yet Holder is the only one who gets punished. What about Batchelor? Where is his 9 month ban for walking out? C. Holder got banned for 9 months because of two reasons. 1. Buster didn't want us having him start next season on a bargain average. 2. To punish him even further because J. Holder didn't compete in the fours. why does everything revolve around Poole??? Although to be fair I suspect it may have something to do with no-one being able to sign him on a low average!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 If any good comes of this it will be the the Aussie's stop whinging. They are generally moaners, especially Schlien who really gets on my nerves. If he isn't happy then go back to Australia and work there. Simple choice., Not heard Holder's view as his promised statement hasn't been published. But if Chapman's version is right then the riders attitude stunk badly. Aussies stop whining, you obviously haven't been over on Twitter this afternoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 That's what Holder thought of the track. Anyway I hope Noddy is back home at Poole next season. Always gives his best for the Pirates and would come in as second heat leader. Would that be like KK does 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 why does everything revolve around Poole??? Although to be fair I suspect it may have something to do with no-one being able to sign him on a low average!! I don't know why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytsejam Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 So is everyone on here happy now, that effectively rules him out of next season, looks to me that he is the only rider from that night at kings Lynn too get punished, when there were clearly other riders not coming out to race, its a shame those riders are not standing by holder, obviously haven't got the guts Uhmmm....please explain how this is "effectively ruling him out for NEXT season"....as I can't quite see how this is the case seeing that he will be able to ride in the UK again at the start of April 2018! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 I think Noddy will sign for Swindon next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef robin Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 I think Noddy will sign for Swindon next season What about Big Ears? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 Most Lynn fans will probably of read it.Might be of interest to some. From Tuesdays local rag. http://www.lynnnews.co.uk/sport/king-s-lynn-stars-chief-buster-i-felt-like-quitting-1-8091683 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 What about Big Ears? Nah! I don't think we'll have Batch too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) Holder is banned for 9 months because Buster is a spineless little corrupt coward who thinks its acceptale to send riders out on a pile of sh!t. Correct me if im wrong but didnt more KL riders refuse to go out in respective heats that night? Yet Holder is the only one who gets punished. What about Batchelor? Where is his 9 month ban for walking out? C. Holder got banned for 9 months because of two reasons. 1. Buster didn't want us having him start next season on a bargain average. 2. To punish him even further because J. Holder didn't compete in the fours. You seem a little short of facts.. Batchelor didn't walk out.. he had a medical certificate. Although for being abusive to British speedway on Twitter this afternoon, I hope it does signal the end of his British speedway career. Other Kings Lynn riders went out and did ride after the track prep... Holder is the only one who didn't, hence the ban. Edited August 10, 2017 by TheReturn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 Holder is banned for 9 months because Buster is a spineless little corrupt coward who thinks its acceptale to send riders out on a pile of sh!t. Correct me if im wrong but didnt more KL riders refuse to go out in respective heats that night? Yet Holder is the only one who gets punished. What about Batchelor? Where is his 9 month ban for walking out? C. Holder got banned for 9 months because of two reasons. 1. Buster didn't want us having him start next season on a bargain average. 2. To punish him even further because J. Holder didn't compete in the fours. He's not the first rider to make a stand, and won't be the last What a brilliant post, well done What is it with clowns like you two? You really are amongst the thickest people around. You post such utter crap without an ounce of sensibility, and actually like each other posts. Truly amazing....... Thank god all Poole supporter aren't like you. Meeting people like you would turn me off speedway for good....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 Holder banned for nine months haha best news I have read all day serve the twerp right for trying to act the big man needed knocking down a peg or two. Holder consider yourself served! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 Why would it affect his visa? As long as a club is willing to sign him from mid April - there should be no problem. Unless you know something about visa applications?You have something like 60-days from the date of your previous visa ended to get a new one. If you don't then you have to wait 12 months. Holder wot be signing for anyone in the next month for April 2018 so he'll have to wait 12 months. Hence no 2018 season for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 This was Batchelor's Twitter response.. Wow ... Give yourselves a big pat on the back .....#withahammer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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