Daniel Smith Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 Chapman must have accepted Batchelor was injured otherwise he wouldn't have used r/r. What are you talking about?!? If a rider gets injured and is signed off by the doc IRR comes into play whether a manager accepts it or not. I don't get what you're trying to say 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornier Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 That's not how I recall things, but I bow to your greater knowledge.C`mon don`t hold back ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 Chapman must have accepted Batchelor was injured otherwise he wouldn't have used r/r. If you mean Chapman used r/r on the night of the injury - well if the medical staff at the track indicated TB was unfit to continue....... but the point is, TB had a medical certificate but made a wonderful recovery for the next nigh guesting at BV - a track he knew he can score well at. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 Not in GB ,maybe abroad though.If the Visa was An issue( don't know if it is) he should have taken that into consideration before he refused to ride.Silly Boy. He's not the first,and he certainly won't be the last to make a point about the crap tracks in the uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 Not in GB ,maybe abroad though.If the Visa was An issue( don't know if it is) he should have taken that into consideration before he refused to ride.Silly Boy. It would be silly to ride on a dangerous track in a dangerous sport. In retrospect a ride through the tapes in heat 13 would have been a better option but I doubt that entered his mind in the heat of the moment. Buster Chapmans behaviour has now alerted the top riders and he could struggle to attract anyone of quality next season. Suprised Jonathon Chapman hasn't made a comment about this whole debacle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 He's not the first,and he certainly won't be the last to make a point about the crap tracks in the uk but to make a meaningful point about poor track condition you need solidarity - all for one and one for all type of stuff. The riders were not in unison that night, that was Holders and Batchelors downfall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 He's not the first,and he certainly won't be the last to make a point about the crap tracks in the ukTrue,but he maybe should have just poodled round at the back and let Buster sack him earlier,he would not have had a ban either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 Chapman must have accepted Batchelor was injured otherwise he wouldn't have used r/r. You are obviously a 'Chapman basher'..... I get the impression you want to blame him for everything, it was probably Buster's fault the election turned out the way it did. , but you are way off the mark in your accusations. Buster was not in the pits with the team, all he was in charge of was the tractor.. He assumed Allitt and Lyons were doing the Team Managing. Its very difficult to defend the deployable actions of someone like Batchelor.. Its been said, he packed his van and left without saying a word of his departure. It only came to light when he was expected to race again, but by then, he had long gone.., So I don't imagine Buster excepted anything, I don't think he even knew of the doctors certificate.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 No I haven't seen her working on his bikes. I have often spoke to her over the pits fence. She is in the pits and I am outside the pits. The pits area is not just the bay where the bikes are worked on. Just saying that she's not working closely with Robert on race nights, simple as that ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 What are you talking about?!? If a rider gets injured and is signed off by the doc IRR comes into play whether a manager accepts it or not. I don't get what you're trying to say No the team manager has to ASK for it. I have seen a match where IRR was available, but not used - I heard the referee explain to a fan after the meeting that 'yes IRR was available and the TM could have nominated one of the eligible riders' but he simply omitted to do so and used reserves. The team lost the match narrowly so the TMs omission probably cost his team the match - no prizes for guessing who this genius was! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 It would be silly to ride on a dangerous track in a dangerous sport. In retrospect a ride through the tapes in heat 13 would have been a better option but I doubt that entered his mind in the heat of the moment. Buster Chapmans behaviour has now alerted the top riders and he could struggle to attract anyone of quality next season. Suprised Jonathon Chapman hasn't made a comment about this whole debacle. He'l be a home tucking into his grapes.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted August 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 The fact TB had a medical certificate issued at KL one night, and the next night he guest rides and scores well makes his situation a lot worse IMO. Remarkable recovery, would you agree? No. Plenty of riders get a bruise and then get treated to ride next day. The point I'm making is that he did get signed off so medically he is water tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 No the team manager has to ASK for it. I have seen a match where IRR was available, but not used - I heard the referee explain to a fan after the meeting that 'yes IRR was available and the TM could have nominated one of the eligible riders' but he simply omitted to do so and used reserves. The team lost the match narrowly so the TMs omission probably cost his team the match - no prizes for guessing who this genius was! Muddlo? Havelock? Rosco? He'l be a home tucking into his grapes.. Why on earth would he be tucking in to grapes over this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 He's not the first,and he certainly won't be the last to make a point about the crap tracks in the uk We are talking here about an alleged crap track that had consistently good race times. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 It would be silly to ride on a dangerous track in a dangerous sport. In retrospect a ride through the tapes in heat 13 would have been a better option but I doubt that entered his mind in the heat of the moment. Buster Chapmans behaviour has now alerted the top riders and he could struggle to attract anyone of quality next season. Suprised Jonathon Chapman hasn't made a comment about this whole debacle. If you think this will put riders off in future, I think you're very naive. That fact that 3 riders have been signed to come into the side to replace Holder and Batchelor shows those riders really weren't bothered. Riders always leave teams on bad terms. I remember Olly Allen being promised a team place at Somerset one year and then get dropped out of team plans just before we announced our team. Ty Proctor also dropped on the eve of press and practice one year. You'd think that might put riders off, but as if - the real world is nobody really takes much notice. We are talking here about an alleged crap track that had consistently good race times. All down to who fancied it and who didn't I think is the bottom line. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 Say what you like about Matt Ford, he never stops riders from earning a living Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alkadera Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 Say what you like about Matt Ford, he never stops riders from earning a living So he has never changed his team then, putting riders out of work? Holder and batchelor can still earn from their contracts abroad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin wood Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 Sacking Kyle Newman who was coming back from injury certainly helped him earning a living lol. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 Muddlo? Havelock? Rosco? Yes, one of those three 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starboy118 Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 It would be silly to ride on a dangerous track in a dangerous sport. In retrospect a ride through the tapes in heat 13 would have been a better option but I doubt that entered his mind in the heat of the moment. Buster Chapmans behaviour has now alerted the top riders and he could struggle to attract anyone of quality next season. Suprised Jonathon Chapman hasn't made a comment about this whole debacle. "It would be silly to ride on a dangerous track in a dangerous sport". So how silly were the Poole riders on the night? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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