diamonds54 Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Why do people feel the need to critise George, he along with other people who have put money into the club should applauded for keeping it going since 1997, The rules of the sport make it difficult for a team manager to influence the result of a match so there is little he can do when things go wrong. With regard to the team there was very few people complaining when the side was put together during the winter and having both Robert and Steve at the top end made it weak at the bottom, at least the promotion have tried to do something about the bottom end the problem being that most of the 2 pointers coming out of the national league are not good enough yet for the championship. In my opinion what has really hampered Newcastle this season was the reduction in the points limit during the winter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike7164 Posted July 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 earlier you had said that George was useless, and am sure av heard that he would like to step-down sometime. Surely there must be lots of folk that would be able to step in. as for Ludvig, if he is a 7pt man, thats what he is,,, am sure there's plenty around. as for being pretty unique, there seems to be a rule book that changes like the wind and, whats in it seems ambigious at best. the rules make the sport complicated, but speedway does seem to make easy things hard ruffdiamond I did say that & I stand by it you are correct, however it is alright George saying he "would like to step down" and actually doing so it all appears to be hot air and nothing more. Speedway is dying on its arse we all know this as supporters of any club, however Newcastle don't help themselves at times either. So there for I stand by my comments and opinions and respect yours and others likewise! Would there be speedway at Newcastle without George? Difficult to envisage speedway surviving for long at Newcastle without the continued devotion of the English family. I stand to be shot down in flames from those who know better! I don't entirely by that rule of thought & don't think you could ever guarantee one way or another yes it maybe a factor or a risk if you prefer, but with all clubs up and down the country having changed owners etc never say never again if you ask me! Btw, looks like the access is now clear and open. Thanks ruffdiamond Can anyone confirm this please? Why do people feel the need to critise George, he along with other people who have put money into the club should applauded for keeping it going since 1997, The rules of the sport make it difficult for a team manager to influence the result of a match so there is little he can do when things go wrong. With regard to the team there was very few people complaining when the side was put together during the winter and having both Robert and Steve at the top end made it weak at the bottom, at least the promotion have tried to do something about the bottom end the problem being that most of the 2 pointers coming out of the national league are not good enough yet for the championship. In my opinion what has really hampered Newcastle this season was the reduction in the points limit during the winter. diamonds54 Why not critise George or anybody else for that matter I also agree on your comment about him putting money in to the club but so does every supporter of speedway, so what you are saying is put your money in and shut up? to which I for one would never do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Thanks ruffdiamond Can anyone confirm this please? well I went thru the gate 3 times and used the downstairs/outside toilets, but it wasn't me who had a pooh and didn't flush 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leander Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 My argument exactly!!! unfortunately certain people on here talk out of their arses most of the time like I said previously on other threads they weren't whingeing when we were winning the league and KOC, yes we're having a bad season, and I'm sure they'll look at how the team is built abit differently next season. Totally agree. There weren't many complaints when the team was announced. Danny's unfortunate injury came at the wrong time for us. He wa on a 2.00 greensheet but was actually averaging nearer 4.00. People seem to think it's easy to swop a regular 7.00 point rider for a 7.00 point rider who's going to average 9.00. Averages don't tell lies. It was said, for example, we should have made changes and signed Aarnio on 5.28. Well his average has dropped to about 4.8. so it is never that easy. Yes teams do drop under performing sportsmen usually replaced by others in the SQUAD. Berwick have under achieved this season and made SIX changes (not all enforced) and they are still getting tonked home and away. Nobody, other than the promotion, knows what, if any, attempts have been made to strengthen the side this season. It's easy to say we should sign Joe Bloggs or whoever, but if Joe Bloggs won't come or wants megabucks which would bankrupt the club then it's better to take the pain this season and STILL have a club to support NEXT year. Not everybody has the financial clout of Glasgow's backers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellioth4 Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Today's updates will be provided by Rach. Thanks to Midnight Lady for organising this today. - http://speedwayupdates.proboards.com/thread/17052/newcastle-edinburgh-championship-2017-30pm Can we find out if a fixture could be ran next Monday potentially to reduce the backlog of fixtures that need to be completed. I have posted a potential solution on the Newcastle 2017 thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Totally agree. There weren't many complaints when the team was announced. Danny's unfortunate injury came at the wrong time for us. He wa on a 2.00 greensheet but was actually averaging nearer 4.00. People seem to think it's easy to swop a regular 7.00 point rider for a 7.00 point rider who's going to average 9.00. Averages don't tell lies. It was said, for example, we should have made changes and signed Aarnio on 5.28. Well his average has dropped to about 4.8. so it is never that easy. Yes teams do drop under performing sportsmen usually replaced by others in the SQUAD. Berwick have under achieved this season and made SIX changes (not all enforced) and they are still getting tonked home and away. Nobody, other than the promotion, knows what, if any, attempts have been made to strengthen the side this season. It's easy to say we should sign Joe Bloggs or whoever, but if Joe Bloggs won't come or wants megabucks which would bankrupt the club then it's better to take the pain this season and STILL have a club to support NEXT year. Not everybody has the financial clout of Glasgow's backers. Ok George cheers 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) What is the weather doing in Newcastle? It's p*ssing it down where I am, the streets are flooding!! Also, if anyone thinks "getting rid of George" is a good idea, they need their heads banging together, he's been one of the biggest, if not the biggest reason Newcastle speedway still exists... Sure, our team this year may have struggled, or we might have had an unlucky season... But how many times has George pulled a good move out of the hat down the years? I mean, he did sign Robert Lambert and Steve Worrall this year... That's no small move, and even Lewis Rose is a good move, he and the promotion have tried their best to revive the season, well done to them... Although I do think 2017 is beyond us now (besides the KOC, Against Glasgow.....) And we should look forward to seeing what happens over the next 6 months or so... Edited July 30, 2017 by Dandelion 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leander Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Ok George cheers Not even in the same county! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) Totally agree. There weren't many complaints when the team was announced. I personally wasn't a MASSIVE fan of the team, I prefer more strength in depth, however I was excited to see out top 5 perform, although they weren't quite as strong as I hoped they would be Anyway, back to tonight (if it's even on), I predict 47-43 Edinburgh win... With Steve and Robert knackered after yesterday, I'm just looking forward to watching Robson Edited July 30, 2017 by Dandelion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andys Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 So when you say get rid of george do you mean altogether from the club Mike7164 the fact you liked this post I put on here says everything I and others need to know about you, it's because of george english and family and alan hedley that we have speedway on tyneside end of story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Even thinking about getting rid of George English from Newcastle speedway is completely, utterly and totally crazy. He has a track record either of team manager or promoter that many would kill for. Ok maybe this season hasn't quite gone the way that some Diamonds fans would've like but good grief take a look at the league table, there`s one or two clubs that would trade places with Newcastle in a heart beat. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike7164 Posted July 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Mike7164 the fact you liked this post I put on here says everything I and others need to know about you, it's because of george english and family and alan hedley that we have speedway on tyneside end of story. andys you are entitled to think whatever you want I am not stopping you be true to yourself, personally yes I would get rid of George and Darryl I have said that on this forum before, however we were talking about the team were we not? and George is team manager! I don't believe they the promotion are the be and end all of the club which I have also said before, but they maybe two of the longest serving co promoters in the clubs history however I have pointed out in the past that we have had more dross than success with said promotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andys Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 andys you are entitled to think whatever you want I am not stopping you be true to yourself, personally yes I would get rid of George and Darryl I have said that on this forum before, however we were talking about the team were we not? and George is team manager! I don't believe they the promotion are the be and end all of the club which I have also said before, but they maybe two of the longest serving co promoters in the clubs history however I have pointed out in the past that we have had more dross than success with said promotion. Last I heard daryl had nothing to do with the promotion side of the club anymore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrace Grumbler Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 is the on going work on the track any closer to being complete? Tidied that for you, mate. The answer to the question is no, it is ongoing during meetings. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Grateful to get a point. Massive gratitude to Rickayyyy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Mike7164 the fact you liked this post I put on here says everything I and others need to know about you, it's because of george english and family and alan hedley that we have speedway on tyneside end of story. Don't forget Andrew Dalby, too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andys Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Don't forget Andrew Dalby, too I'll take your word for that unsure what input he has nowadays promotion wise or financial wise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrace Grumbler Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Great stuff from George and Roy in the programme tonight. I hope the SCB read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idanthyrsus Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Great stuff from George and Roy in the programme tonight. I hope the SCB read it. Any chance of enlightening those of us who couldn't be there on what was written? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrow Boy 2 Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 When IRR was introduced was it not done so to cover riders injured through no fault of their own to compensate teams having to use Fast Track Reserves who the powers that be did not want to go up against top riders. I presume however that this is no longer the case and can be used for any injury even if it the injured riders fault. I ask this in the light of Sam Master's rides being covered when it states in the referee's programme that he was DQ'd in heat one after a crash that was deemed to be his own fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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