Swindon V Poole Thurs 27/07/

[Catalan]

What a crappy post BITTER and twisted and trying to sound SUPERiOR what a case you are.Just say it as it is your team are in meltdown this year and if Lynn can muster up a run the Pirates might not even get fourth.

Seemed pretty fair to me, maybe you're not reading it properly.

[keef robin]

This Shovlar geezer might think he's superior but at least the ex-Swindon fan put his head above the parapet and was one of the few Poole fans who showed up. We both forecasted a heavy defeat.

The big Blunsdon crowd were noisy at the start but the match was over very early on and it quietened down.

Great heat 1 win for Jase, and Latte in heat 13!

But bloody Kennett is crap same as with Rye.

Superb win for the Robins but sadly shows how the standard has fallen in top league.

Would be angry and ashamed if I had made the trip up from the south. Didn't look like a Poole side.

[Steve Shovlar]

Seemed pretty fair to me, maybe you're not reading it properly.

Thank you. There was nothing bitter in my post at all. Congratulated Swindon on their win, called them favourites for the title, picked out our weaknesses. Perhaps he didn't like the fact that I said the actual racing was dire, which it was.

 

Does anybody who was there believe the racing was good last night?

[racers and royals]

Well just got back and what a load of twaddle the last few pages have been. Can't anyone here string a constructive sentence together? Ye gods come on this is meant to be a forum not the ya hoo boo sucks crap posted on here. Some on here need to grow up.

 

Now onto the meeting. Utter dire rubbish sorry to say. The Swindon fans will enjoy the win but as a spectacle it was truly awful. Doyle made a pass in heat one, then we had to wait until heat 9 before anything of note happened. It was all from the gate with the Swindon riders rolling and being pulled back or flying from the gate so the race was over first bend. No chance of passing so there was little in the way of actual racing. Just a gating competition which Swindon won hands down.

 

Thought the crowd was reasonable. Not big but OK. I must admit I thought there would be more but it was a cold night up there.

 

Swindon do look a good team. Whether they can get close enough to Wolves at Monmore is the challenge if they are going to win it. Clear favourites though. Can see those two in the final.

 

As expected we didn't have the top end fire power to win heats. We pretty much kept it level after 7 heats but by then all the damage had been done. We are missing Brady and we are missing a number one. For the first time in many years we don't have a rider or two where we can expect a heat win. There's nobody in the team who can power through and score big. This is no doubt going to be sorted this winter but no good for this season.

 

Score was roughly what I thought it would be. Should have been a little closer but Holder blew a 5-1 with a silly fall, and the ref made an error in allowing Morris off 15 metres when he had been disqualified. He was disqualified for delaying the start after a warning for rolling. There is no 15 metre handicap for this offence so it should have been a 5-0 Poole instead of the 4-2 due to Kennett messing up a bend. This needs to be corrected, not because Poole might have got something out of the meeting as it makes no difference, but if finishing top comes down to points difference and its very close, said points "could" become important.

 

Well done Swindon on the win. Bringing in Museilak for Gappmier turned them into also rans to clear Championship favourites. For us Pirates its blatantly obvious where our problems lie. No top rider and Brady out. One can be sorted but not the other, making us also rans for this season.

I told you last night in post 127 that you are wrong about Morris and his disqualification- I trust after reading this extract from the Speedway regulations you will apologise;

 

15.3. A Starting Offence is considered to have been committed in the following

circumstances: -

Gate Preparation after the expiry of the 2-minute allowance.

When a rider’s motorcycle touches or breaks the starting tapes whilst the green starting

light is on or prevents the raising of the start gate.

And fails to comply with: -

Art 5.4.4 (riding across the infield prior to a heat) *

Art 15.2.2 (returning into the pits)

Art 15.2.4 (failure to meet the 2-minute time allowance)

Art 15.2.8 (not obeying the Start Marshal instructions)

A second offence, following an official warning during the meeting for incorrectly

preparing the start gate area, disobeying the start marshal and moving during the

illumination of the green light before the tapes are released

 

15.16 HANDICAP HEAT RULES (for offences shown in Art 15.3, or permitted by an SR

In Team events, if a rider commits a Starting Offence (Art 15.3) the Team Manager has an

option to either replace the disqualified Rider by a Reserve (starting in the original position) or

nominate the offending rider for a 15-metre Handicap, starting in gates c or d or to be replaced

by a reserve who will start at the original gate at the tapes (the opposing team does not

change gate positions)

 

[Steve Shovlar]

I told you last night in post 127 that you are wrong about Morris and his disqualification- I trust after reading this extract from the Speedway regulations you will apologise;

 

15.3. A Starting Offence is considered to have been committed in the followingcircumstances: -Gate Preparation after the expiry of the 2-minute allowance.When a rider’s motorcycle touches or breaks the starting tapes whilst the green startinglight is on or prevents the raising of the start gate.And fails to comply with: -Art 5.4.4 (riding across the infield prior to a heat) *Art 15.2.2 (returning into the pits)Art 15.2.4 (failure to meet the 2-minute time allowance)Art 15.2.8 (not obeying the Start Marshal instructions)A second offence, following an official warning during the meeting for incorrectlypreparing the start gate area, disobeying the start marshal and moving during theillumination of the green light before the tapes are released[/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size]

 

15.16 HANDICAP HEAT RULES (for offences shown in Art 15.3, or permitted by an SRIn Team events, if a rider commits a Starting Offence (Art 15.3) the Team Manager has anoption to either replace the disqualified Rider by a Reserve (starting in the original position) ornominate the offending rider for a 15-metre Handicap, starting in gates c or d or to be replacedby a reserve who will start at the original gate at the tapes (the opposing team does notchange gate positions)[/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size]

 

Fair enough I stand corrected. Seems different comps different rules.

[orion]

Thought my post was absolutely spot on to be honest. You don't actually believe that

 

Nothing bitter in my post we were beaten fair and square. But the over the top gloating from some Swindon fans on here is rather sad and pathetic to be honest. Embarrassing behaviour truth be told.

To be fair to Steve if anyone can spot over the top gloating it would be him

[Midland Red]

But the over the top gloating from some Swindon fans on here is rather sad and pathetic to be honest. Embarrassing behaviour truth be told.

Something no Poole fan, including Mr Shoveller, has ever been guilty of in the past?

[keef robin]

Thank you. There was nothing bitter in my post at all. Congratulated Swindon on their win, called them favourites for the title, picked out our weaknesses. Perhaps he didn't like the fact that I said the actual racing was dire, which it was.

Does anybody who was there believe the racing was good last night?

Don't be silly if you want good racing go to Zummerzet. Swindon fans just turn up to see the opposition get murdered, like the old Arsenal teams under George Graham.

It ain't pretty to watch but its pretty effective.

[dump that clutch]

Well just got back and what a load of twaddle the last few pages have been. Can't anyone here string a constructive sentence together? Ye gods come on this is meant to be a forum not the ya hoo boo sucks crap posted on here. Some on here need to grow up.

 

Now onto the meeting. Utter dire rubbish sorry to say. The Swindon fans will enjoy the win but as a spectacle it was truly awful. Doyle made a pass in heat one, then we had to wait until heat 9 before anything of note happened. It was all from the gate with the Swindon riders rolling and being pulled back or flying from the gate so the race was over first bend. No chance of passing so there was little in the way of actual racing. Just a gating competition which Swindon won hands down.

 

Thought the crowd was reasonable. Not big but OK. I must admit I thought there would be more but it was a cold night up there.

 

Swindon do look a good team. Whether they can get close enough to Wolves at Monmore is the challenge if they are going to win it. Clear favourites though. Can see those two in the final.

 

As expected we didn't have the top end fire power to win heats. We pretty much kept it level after 7 heats but by then all the damage had been done. We are missing Brady and we are missing a number one. For the first time in many years we don't have a rider or two where we can expect a heat win. There's nobody in the team who can power through and score big. This is no doubt going to be sorted this winter but no good for this season.

 

Score was roughly what I thought it would be. Should have been a little closer but Holder blew a 5-1 with a silly fall, and the ref made an error in allowing Morris off 15 metres when he had been disqualified. He was disqualified for delaying the start after a warning for rolling. There is no 15 metre handicap for this offence so it should have been a 5-0 Poole instead of the 4-2 due to Kennett messing up a bend. This needs to be corrected, not because Poole might have got something out of the meeting as it makes no difference, but if finishing top comes down to points difference and its very close, said points "could" become important.

 

Well done Swindon on the win. Bringing in Museilak for Gappmier turned them into also rans to clear Championship favourites. For us Pirates its blatantly obvious where our problems lie. No top rider and Brady out. One can be sorted but not the other, making us also rans for this season.

Heat 7 - scores on the doors - 30 - 12

 

doesn't look level to me Steve..?

[racers and royals]

Fair enough I stand corrected. Seems different comps different rules.

Not different comps in UK speedway- all under the same rules- GP`s don`t have 15m handicaps so obviously it`s the reserve that comes in.

[Trees]

Thank you. There was nothing bitter in my post at all. Congratulated Swindon on their win, called them favourites for the title, picked out our weaknesses. Perhaps he didn't like the fact that I said the actual racing was dire, which it was.

 

Does anybody who was there believe the racing was good last night?

I don't think I have ever seen good racing at Swindon, roll on their new track..

[keef robin]

Heat 7 - scores on the doors - 30 - 12

 

doesn't look level to me Steve..?

It was all over by heat 6 27-9, Andersen had lost the black n white ride. A boxing match would have been stopped. Then sadly pretty boring after that hold-ups, crashes, rain. Hope Zach is ok.

This Swindon team is bloody good, brutal, and ruthless, especially that Bellego.

Edited July 28, 2017 by beefy keefy

[theblueboy]

Has anyone seen my friend Starman?

 

He was really excited yesterday. It was his first day at BSF school, which is a state funded school, and he made lots of new friends, particularly in the Swindon area.

 

He was telling all his new friends, here on the BSF, that in English, he now understands the meaning of the word

'H A M M E R I N G'

 

In maths, he has learnt that 56 - 34 isn't just a lot but actually 22.

 

And in geography, he learnt that the good people of Swindon love nothing more than to relax by fishing. Naturally, Swindon people are clever, and look to undertake sustainable fishing, particularly off the coast of Dorset. There has been lots of fishing down in Dorset this season and has currently led to stocks being depleted as everyone is filling their boots.

 

You just can't put a price on learning so much in one day.

 

Who said the education system can't be fun...

Edited July 28, 2017 by theblueboy

[Odds On]

for my sins I went to this last night, Swindon were very good and fully deserved their win, however the stadium, the racing and Poole were very poor and did nothing to portray speedway as a entertaining sport.

[keef robin]

for my sins I went to this last night, Swindon were very good and fully deserved their win, however the stadium, the racing and Poole were very poor and did nothing to portray speedway as a entertaining sport.

It's not, the opposition turn up at this Wiltshire scrapyard set on a windswept hill, see the big track, and big, ugly, aggressive fans and stewards, and thats just the females, ugly bogs, and most are beaten before they start! Blunsdon Shabbey is a foreboding place, hell on earth.

Surprised nobody has painted "Welcome to "Hell" on the wall.

We don't want a nice shiny new stadium.

Edited July 28, 2017 by beefy keefy

[A ORLOV]

A bit of a boring meeting, but only because the opposition as predicted, was poor. Many of the races were won by the Robins in the first lap, often the first bend, as they showed the pirates how to ride.

We have had a load of hype about certain Poole riders but last night showed that some of them are overrated.

The first race set the meeting up with Jason being behind Hans for the whole race apart from the last couple of meters.

All the Swindon riders scored well, but this could only be expected with weak opposition, oh how the mighty have fallen.

Swindon are now second in the league, who would have thought that at the start of June, and Poole are heading the other way with two meetings against Wolves and BV yet to come and if KL can get their act together Poole may end up out of the playoffs.

It is bad news about Zach injuring his spleen when he fell and I, along with many, wish him well. He has been steadily improving this season and this injury is the last thing he needed.

[keef robin]

Good to have a chat with fellow cockney Big Ron, christ i thought i was ugly!

[Steve Shovlar]

Heat 7 - scores on the doors - 30 - 12

 

doesn't look level to me Steve..?

You misunderstand. After 7 heats we steadied the sunken ship.

[Sidney the robin]

Thought my post was absolutely spot on to be honest. You don't actually believe that was good racing last night, do you? It was dire stuff. Virtually no passing all meeting. Even when Swindon riders missed the start they couldn't pass unless a rider fell or nearly came off. It was a gating competition which the Swindon riders won hands down. Even Lahti, who was tailed off against the Swindon reserve, eventually gated and easily beat Doyle and Morris.

Nothing bitter in my post we were beaten fair and square. But the over the top gloating from some Swindon fans on here is rather sad and pathetic to be honest. Embarrassing behaviour truth be told.

All of the Robins fans i know dont gloat i watched the meeting with Hagonshocker and he didn't once mention we were beating Poole for him like myself it was just another home win.Ok apart from heat 1 and a few Holder moves (who will be a top class rider) the racing was poor but some of that was because the opposition was so poor.This year at the Abbey we have seen some decent racing so it has not been that dire everyweek after last night Ford needs to except 100 per cent responsibility.He assembled a side that lets be honest is not good anough the balance is not right and his changes of riders this year have not worked.SS you have had some really good times over the years so you have to take defeat and the banter with it when you learn to do that winning is even more special.

[SteveLyric2]

I don't think I have ever seen good racing at Swindon, roll on their new track..

 

It seems like several of the Robins like to 'roll on the current track' so seems only fair that they would want to 'roll on the new one'!!

 

But seriously, a big well done to the Robins - certainly the team in form and could easily top the play - off positions giving them choice of opponents. I hope young Wajtknecht is ok after his spleen injury.

 

Poole at the moment can't seem to gate for toffee and can only look forward to Brady's return - but only if he's fully fit - and in the meantime look to avoid 6th place!!

Edited July 28, 2017 by Skidder1