salty Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 As far as I'm aware Matt can't stop any asset (who he's not including in the 1-7) riding elsewhere. Can make it hard by asking daft loan fees or "insisting" on a full transfer, but essentially it would be seen as a restraint of trade? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 At the end of the day Matt Ford would not stop a GP rider riding for a different team. He still wants GP riders in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) So Buster would like NKI he will need to call Matt for permission. Matt won't stand in the way but I'm sure end of June when Matt could of introduced Batch (could not use Chris as against the rules) before the window shut could work against Buster. Of course a rider will ride where he wants but actions can always have other reactions down the line. Edited November 9, 2017 by Pirates Of Poole 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 Not sure anyone gets on with MH! well that line isn't that bad is it? can't see Jack not riding for us, got plenty of improvement to come and could teach his brother a thing or two about racing when the track isn't to his liking! Gonna take a long time for Chris to get that monkey of his back huh ? ;-) As for Jack I think he has a decent future. Interesting looking at the POL EXL rider stats for 2017. There are 55 rider stats listed for those regular riders in 2017 (no idea why 55 when 8 x 7 - 56 riders. Anyway. If Jack were to finish in the top 35 he would only need around 5.4 av excl bonus points per 4 rides. Such an av puts you ahead of Kildermand/Walasek/Thorssell.Musielak/Andreas Jonsson. Of the 24 unclassified riders who rode in a few meetings, Jack was top and Brady second. Jack form 4 meetings and Brady from 2. Perhaps one can see why the top league in the World wants to sign such potential prestigious talent for 2018. I still think Matt would be crazy not to sign Jack alongside Chris. I think Chris will be mentor to Jack in UK and POL and both can tap into the prestigious Monster Sponsorship deals as well. Having Chris/Jack and Brady all signed by POL EXL cant be bad. Especially when you consider riders such as Cook can only get a POL Nice 1 place despite having qualified for the SGP. Its what we build around these guys which is important in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 Good point POP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 Holder is OK for you lot for 2018 then now he's on a low average, fickle!! Not fickle just sound business sense. He wasn't signed as his high GSA under new calc for 2017 would have meant problems further down the team. Probably right decision considering Holders poor form for so long due to engine tuning issues well documented also by Alan Johns on the main Polish website in last week. However with a 7.16 GSA for 2018 one would be barmy not to try and sign the guy bearing in mind he was third in the real GSA's to only Doyle & NKI in 2016. Considering NKI would come back with 9.04 and Holder with 7.16 for 2018 then surely common sense dictates Holder is worth a gamble in trying to get back to near or on to his 2016 GSA. Of course much will depend on IF he can get the gremlins out of his tuning problems of 2016 as with the Darcy loss of 20165 as also his personal breakup with his partner and Max's mum soon after should now be behind him so no excuses on the emotional front for me for 2018. Hopefully if he also has young bro Jack alongside he can also take on the mantle of mentor just as he will be doing so for Torun and also recognised by Torun in recent press releases after following their signings. Have said earlier he deserves next season to HOPEFULLY prove the doubters wrong. I do not defend his actions at that meeting at KL in 2017 so don't get me wrong, but he was suspended/sacked and then banned and fined so the situation is over in that respect come the start of 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 Holder is OK for you lot for 2018 then now he's on a low average, fickle!!poole should have kept Holder last season. He may have proved to be a top number one at Poole like Doyle and Lindgren were and the management could still have had a good team and pushed for the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 Where's this 'NKI is a Poole asset' come from?? NB. Any relaxation of the Polish '3 league only' rule is dependent on the BSPA approving the fixed night proposal at their AGM. The Poles won't announce/confirm anything until the BSPA confirm their decision!! Even then I won't believe it til I see it in black and white!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 This year poole will be going all out for the league win...That's what they do if didn't win it the previous year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 Have said earlier he deserves next season to HOPEFULLY prove the doubters wrong. I do not defend his actions at that meeting at KL in 2017 so don't get me wrong, but he was suspended/sacked and then banned and fined so the situation is over in that respect come the start of 2018. You say the situation is over and we should move on. Try telling that to the many fans who went home early that day and haven't been seen since. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 This year poole will be going all out for the league win...That's what they do if didn't win it the previous year. They must have failed miserably this year then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 They must have failed miserably this year then. Very droll pmsl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedway197635 Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 Poole to line up something like 2 holders, 2 kurtz's BWD shanes and grajczonek what's that come to ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 Oops..I meant next year . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 Oops..I meant next year . Still doesn't make sense as Poole haven't won for 2 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 poole should have kept Holder last season. He may have proved to be a top number one at Poole like Doyle and Lindgren were and the management could still have had a good team and pushed for the league. Holder was pretty dire during 2017 wherever he rode. So having him in the team on a silly average would have accomplished little. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 Still doesn't make sense as Poole haven't won for 2 seasons. Oh ain't they...I don't normally follow this league..was only showing a bit of interest as maybe ipswich will be back in it. Let's hope it's 3 seasons they don't win it then😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 The main reason for me that Chris was not firing in 2017 was due to his engines. Think you will find he is not the only senior rider who had problems (especially on John's tuned motors). I think there were numerous World class riders who suffered similar problems although admittedly Chris suffered more that a lot of them. For me Chris deserves this year to hopefully prove the doubters wrong. I could be wrong and hope my faith in his ability is rewarded. The Darcy situation and his personal split from Sealy are behind him now. He has to knuckle down on his riding to show us all he is the rider who won the SGP a few years ago. I too had views similar to yours about Holder last year. With the exception of Doyle, I thought Holder was the best substitute we could have got to replace Neils. But how disappointing he turned out. His performances were lack lustred and mostly unimportant. Very rarely did he show his real form. On those occasions he did, proved to me his machinery was as good as the others. Looking and seeing him ride at Lynn was very 'matter of fact' showing little fight or determination. Someone, who only years earlier had been World Champion, really went down in my estimation. It was as if he wasn't bothered... Looking at him ride in the SGP's very seldom did he shine bright like he once did.. Your post puts the blame firmly on his bad machinery, but I didn't see it as cold and calculated as that. Probably the setup was wrong, probably Holder wasn't dialled in as he should be, but to blame just the bikes to me is definitely wrong. I hope he does better in 2018 but he needs to have a long hard look at himself and realise its all down to him now....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 So we have a new badge it is getting revealed in a couple of hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 So we have a new badge it is getting revealed in a couple of hours. probably a picture of Matt !!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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