Poole 2018

[Pirates Of Poole]

No he didnt. He said the biggest deal in UK British speedway history. Tony R was on 6k a meeting.

Tony was not on 6k a meeting!! And Magic was never offered a summer deal! The money you talk about would fold the club. An offer was made to 2 GP riders which were good deals but would have worked out around 3k a meeting but due to Polish contracts was not possible.

Edited October 25, 2017 by Pirates Of Poole

[poolebolton]

Tony was not on 6k a meeting!! And Magic was never offered a summer deal! The money you talk about would fold the club. An offer was made to 2 GP riders which were good deals but would have worked out around 3k a meeting but due to Polish contracts was not possible.

 

Not from what Ive heard. It was the biggest deal in British speedway history. Nicki P was on 6k a meeting in 2010 in Pboro.

 

 

This is from what i heard from a sponsor and written in the programme. If I have made mistake there fair enough.

 

 

 

Back to 2018.

 

Do people want Hancock in this team.

Edited October 25, 2017 by poolebolton

[foreverblue]

Dont believe Peterborough would have paid NP 6k a meeting in 2010 either.

How much did M Loram want then because Tony agreed to ride for less.

Edited October 25, 2017 by foreverblue

[hyabb17]

Tony was not on 6k a meeting!! And Magic was never offered a summer deal! The money you talk about would fold the club. An offer was made to 2 GP riders which were good deals but would have worked out around 3k a meeting but due to Polish contracts was not possible.

 

I did think those figures were excessive. No UK team could afford those type of figures, like you've said 3k is probably the max, 4k at a push but I doubt that.

[wessexboy]

Matt Ford was offering to pay 8/9k a meeting for Magic J this summer.

 

And it wont be Batch. Batch isnt that well liked by Middlo or Matt so it wont be them.

£8000 / £9000 per meeting Rubbish or Speedway promoters are more silly than I thought

 

I went to few Poole meetings last year and if there was more than 1500 paying fans they would be very lucky

 

When you take 80% of the crowd are over 60 or kids then 20% of the gate money goes in vat. So you would be lucky to take £16,000 per meeting so Magic would have took all the gate money for a home and away meeting (mad).

 

It is time for Speedway riders and fans to get real Speedway in this country can not pay anymore than £100 a point.

Edited October 26, 2017 by wessexboy

[bruno]

I think we all agree riders deserve a good rate of pay for what they risk. However you can't pay what you avnt got. Simple really

[SteveLyric2]

Tony R was on £180 a point. plus a few other bits and pieces that most of the other top riders would expect as part of their 'deal'!

 

As for the Greg rumour, lets not forget that Gordon Pairman would probably have some influence in either Poole or Glasgow camps?!!

Edited October 26, 2017 by Skidder1

[Aces51]

Tony R was on £180 a point. plus a few other bits and pieces that most of the other top riders would expect as part of their 'deal'!

 

As for the Greg rumour, lets not forget that Gordon Pairman would probably have some influence in either Poole or Glasgow camps?!!

£180 a point allowing for inflation is about £250 a point now but crowds are significantly smaller now.

[therefused]

Poole Bolton doesnt have a clue anyway Im not sure what youre all getting riled up about

[psycho3a]

£180 - £200 a point sounds a reasonable figure for a GP standard number 1.

 

So they average 9 over 32 meetings ish gives them earnings of about £54k , not a bad living for one country and they will probably earn similar in Poland and Sweden.

[poolebolton]

£180 - £200 a point sounds a reasonable figure for a GP standard number 1.

 

So they average 9 over 32 meetings ish gives them earnings of about £54k , not a bad living for one country and they will probably earn similar in Poland and Sweden.

According to to Sporty Fakty it was £850(4000 Zl) a point in Poland last year and £400 a point in Sweden.

Edited October 26, 2017 by poolebolton

[A ORLOV]

£180 - £200 a point sounds a reasonable figure for a GP standard number 1.

 

So they average 9 over 32 meetings ish gives them earnings of about £54k , not a bad living for one country and they will probably earn similar in Poland and Sweden.

In Poland the riders can earn up to about 10 times what they earn here as many of the top riders get a high signing on fee as well.

The top riders earn a hell of a lot more than the figure above.

Edited October 26, 2017 by A ORLOV

[foreverblue]

According to to Sporty Fakty it was £850(4000 Zl) a point in Poland last year and £400 a point in Sweden.

Which is why we struggle to get the best riders over here, uk pay rates are totally different to Poland or Sweden.

[poolebolton]

In Poland the riders can earn up to about 10 times what they earn here as many of the top riders get a high signing on fee as well.

The top riders earn a hell of a lot more than the figure above.

NKI got offered a £25,000 signing fee for Tarnow.

 

But he wanted Torun,

[hyabb17]

According to to Sporty Fakty it was £850(4000 Zl) a point in Poland last year and £400 a point in Sweden.

So do you now see why your 8/9k per meeting for Magic comment was ridiculous. Basically you were saying £750 a point if you divide 9k by 12.

[psycho3a]

Although the pay per points is increased in Poland and Sweden the riders generally dont score as many points per meeting as every race has GP or better standard riders so means they have mixed results but agreed on a good day they can earn a fantastic amount of money.

[poolebolton]

So do you now see why your 8/9k per meeting for Magic comment was ridiculous. Basically you were saying £750 a point if you divide 9k by 12.

 

Yes, I was wrong.

 

In the event with Kyle and Christina Turball. Matt Ford said he knows a rider who earned 30k in one week in Poland.

[Bleeds Pirate Blue]

So if you don't want Chris Holder in the Poole team then you are not a Poole fan??! Darcy has said on twitter he doesn't think he will be in the Poole team! Also i would rather have riders in the team who actually give a ****, all he does is slags it off. Rather keep Hans.

 

Sorry for the delayed reply. Problem is this forum is a hate-filled cess pool these days so I don't care to frequent as much as I should do as a long-term speedway addict.

 

Anyways, where did I say not wanting Holder in the team means you're not a Poole fan? Didn't I in fact say I was one of those who agreed with KK > Noddy at the start of 2017!? I was just stating my POV that Chris Holder, a legend and future Poole Hall of Famer, with nearly a decade of riding for Poole and winning numerous trophies doesn't deserve to have his legacy pi55ed on. Noddy has done more than enough in Poole colours to get cut some slack. He's earned my respect and admiration, and even if he never lines up in Poole colours again I will always remember him for his service to the club.

 

Looking forward to 2018, if the averages and make up of the team can allow him back in 2018 I'd be fine with that. If he isn't in the team, no biggie either. I trust Matt's ability to build a title-contending team.

[Agrotron]

 

Sorry for the delayed reply. Problem is this forum is a hate-filled cess pool these days so I don't care to frequent as much as I should do as a long-term speedway addict.

 

Anyways, where did I say not wanting Holder in the team means you're not a Poole fan? Didn't I in fact say I was one of those who agreed with KK > Noddy at the start of 2017!? I was just stating my POV that Chris Holder, a legend and future Poole Hall of Famer, with nearly a decade of riding for Poole and winning numerous trophies doesn't deserve to have his legacy pi55ed on. Noddy has done more than enough in Poole colours to get cut some slack. He's earned my respect and admiration, and even if he never lines up in Poole colours again I will always remember him for his service to the club.

 

Looking forward to 2018, if the averages and make up of the team can allow him back in 2018 I'd be fine with that. If he isn't in the team, no biggie either. I trust Matt's ability to build a title-contending team.

 

 

Well he didn't last year he put together a load of sht!

[Bleeds Pirate Blue]

 

 

Well he didn't last year he put together a load of sht!

 

So because we only managed 4th last season we should ignore the multiple league titles, cup competitions etc from the proceeding decade!? Personally, I prefer a more balanced and even handed approach. Matt Ford has consistently built title-contending teams and I think it's fair to say he is likely to do so again (assuming he doesn't sell the club!)