Jump to content
British Speedway Forum

Poole 2018


Recommended Posts

Indeed, it seems that this 'rule' doesn't actually exist despite more than one promoter and rider believing that it did.

Not at all in keeping with the open, honest, transparent and uncomplicated way that British speedway is run :D:rolleyes:

  • Like 5
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, INCOGNITO said:

 

Yes they make the rules and the rule is ANY rider that has been a regular GP rider in the last three seasons or currently a GP rider that has an old average below 8.00 will be reassessed at 8.00 unless they rode in Britain in 2017.

 

While Kildemand has had many appearances as a standby reserve he was a full GP rider in 2016 and therefore should carry an 8.00 average rather than the 7.10 average.

 

The he annoying part is that Poole were one of the most outspoken and put in these clauses at the AGM and then go against them.

so if it's not right, why have the bspa not blocked the move

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, Arthur Fry said:

so if it's not right, why have the bspa not blocked the move

Unfortunately when a sport is corrupt and therefore clubs are treated differently questions like that are irrelevant.

  • Like 2
  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, INCOGNITO said:

 

Yes they make the rules and the rule is ANY rider that has been a regular GP rider in the last three seasons or currently a GP rider that has an old average below 8.00 will be reassessed at 8.00 unless they rode in Britain in 2017. 

 

While Kildemand has had many appearances as a standby reserve he was a full GP rider in 2016 and therefore should carry an 8.00 average rather than the 7.10 average. 

 

The he annoying part is that Poole were one of the most outspoken and put in these clauses at the AGM and then go against them. 

if im not wrong didnt kildermand ride in brittan last year ?

sure he did a few meetings for someone

probaly not enough to change his average  but might just qualify that way

Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, Arthur Fry said:

don't understand the song and dance, he's only a temporary replacement, does he make Poole stronger, I don't think so, noddy any day

So a Holder who isnt in the right frame of mind, has seen his form nosedive over the last 2 seasons is actually a stronger rider right now then Kildemand??? 

Kildemand over Holder every day of the week right now, Holder has loads to prove

  • Like 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, Arthur Fry said:

don't understand the song and dance, he's only a temporary replacement, does he make Poole stronger, I don't think so, noddy any day

So you still think he's a temporary replacement. Let's wait & see. I get the feeling he will not be back for a while, if at all this season.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, DunRobin said:

So you still think he's a temporary replacement. Let's wait & see. I get the feeling he will not be back for a while, if at all this season.

In which case his value of £25,000 will be shot to bits.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

15 minutes ago, Arthur Fry said:

don't understand the song and dance, he's only a temporary replacement, does he make Poole stronger, I don't think so, noddy any day

It's about the playing field being level and everyone getting treated fairly rather than riders making teams stronger or not. Without integrity the competition is a complete waste of time.

Not saying that's the case here but it would be interesting to know where the 'GP rider 8 point rule' idea came from.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Skidder1 said:

Can you point me in the direction of where this appears officially in the 2018 rules please!?

It’s next to the rule that says you can achieve an average after only 2h & 2a meetings (Max Clegg) or the rule where a club is fined and docked 3 points for a bogus call off. Last year a rider was stopped from riding for seven days after missing a meeting due to illness. The rule is in the rulebook in bold meaning its new for this year, even though it was applied last year?

 
Some “rules” are written some are not as this allows fluidity in their interpretation dependant on which team is involved. 
  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

There are some really uptight people on this forum. Funnily enough, Poole is not the only club in this league, i suggest you go on your own threads and have a whinge about your own clubs short comings. like having no ambition. So come October as your club is floundering in mid table obscurity you will have something else to moan about. But no you will still turn to the Poole thread... Its nice to be liked... Perhaps you are all closet Poole fans, i mean, we are the most successful club in mordern speedway so it stands to sense   :D

Edited by Starman2006
Link to comment
Share on other sites

59 minutes ago, Starman2006 said:

Please direct us to that ruling in the 2018 rule book. This has already been explained to you all by Gordon Pairman.

It's just below the regulation that says Woryna and Szczepaniak can come back on ancient historic averages, whilst others can't.

Give us a shout when you've located those regulations.

 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

30 minutes ago, Gavan said:

So a Holder who isnt in the right frame of mind, has seen his form nosedive over the last 2 seasons is actually a stronger rider right now then Kildemand???

Kildemand over Holder every day of the week right now, Holder has loads to prove

and he will, Gavan you will be eating your words come the end of season

Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 minutes ago, Starman2006 said:

There are some really uptight people on this forum. Funnily enough, Poole is not the only club in this league, i suggest you go on your own threads and have a whinge about your own clubs short comings. like having no ambition. So come October as your club is floundering in mid table obscurity you will have something else to moan about. But no you will still turn to the Poole thread... Its nice to be liked... Perhaps you are all closet Poole fans, i mean, we are the most successful club in mordern speedway so it stands to sense   :D

Nobody is whinging about their own clubs shortcomings they are whinging about Poole which they are quite entitled to do. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

31 minutes ago, DunRobin said:

So you still think he's a temporary replacement. Let's wait & see. I get the feeling he will not be back for a while, if at all this season.

even if he's not, it won't be kilderman, he's already said not interested in a full season

Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 minutes ago, ouch said:

Last year a rider was stopped from riding for seven days after missing a meeting due to illness. The rule is in the rulebook in bold meaning its new for this year, even though it was applied last year?

Some “rules” are written some are not as this allows fluidity in their interpretation dependant on which team is involved. 

Last year it was discretionary and correctly applied. This year it's compulsory.

...and we get it. The sole purpose of British speedway, the BSPA and the SCB regulations is to mess with the minds of a few paranoid residents of the Manchester area.

2 minutes ago, WalterPlinge said:

It's just below the regulation that says Woryna and Szczepaniak can come back on ancient historic averages, whilst others can't.

Give us a shout when you've located those regulations.

 

"as per the grading list" which at one time was administered by Peter Oakes and may well still be.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

Nobody is whinging about their own clubs shortcomings they are whinging about Poole which they are quite entitled to do. 

And no doubt they will moan again in October... bless.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

18 minutes ago, Starman2006 said:

There are some really uptight people on this forum. Funnily enough, Poole is not the only club in this league, i suggest you go on your own threads and have a whinge about your own clubs short comings. like having no ambition. So come October as your club is floundering in mid table obscurity you will have something else to moan about. But no you will still turn to the Poole thread... Its nice to be liked... Perhaps you are all closet Poole fans, i mean, we are the most successful club in mordern speedway so it stands to sense   :D

hence the 440 pages and counting

Link to comment
Share on other sites

You say discretionary I say fluidity. Glad we can agree. 

Sole purpose - no, that’s just silly. 

I like it when speedway fans call you out and you say show us the rule. We then quote a rule for you to find and suddenly it doesn’t matter. 

Discretionary way to stick to your guns, lol. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue. Privacy Policy