Poole Quay 7 Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 15 minutes ago, sugarray said: I've not made it yet, but from tv and videos I've seen looks the perfect track. Wish we had it at Poole. From what I also have seen also on TV and videos it looks a great track and I agree I wish we had it at Poole on our track. For the last few years, the Poole track has been often poor which is unacceptable. Certainly hope this new relaying etc at Poole does the job and not before time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Poole Quay 7 said: From what I also have seen also on TV and videos it looks a great track and I agree I wish we had it at Poole on our track. For the last few years, the Poole track has been often poor which is unacceptable. Certainly hope this new relaying etc at Poole does the job and not before time. Thing is mate, you need the right shale, Red shale is the best in the business, it binds better than anything else. You also need to put the four wheel blade round first thing before prep, every week. Once you've done that you can do what you like with the track. It takes about 45 mins to an hr to do it properly. When its right we have a dam good track, since john retired in 0-12 its been very much trial and Error,, Im not complaining about the BV track its been built on the same lines as Hyde rd, although i never see that track but clearly it got rave reviews, Like Swindon, its just an observation, some Swindon fans admit if the track was 10 metres shorter at each end you would have a dam good race track, My observation is the same at BV, they dont seem to grasp that and they think i am critisising the set up, clearly they dont read the posts and just wade in feet first. my observation is the same at Berwick, if they took part of a corner off it would make it far better and rounded, an observation.. The place at BV is brand new, and providing they keep on top of it it will last for years in tip top condition. Everybody is welcome to there opinions, but clearly poole fans are not. Nothing new there... Edited March 2, 2018 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoke Potter Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 There is no comparison between Swindon and Belle Vue! Whenever I have seen Swindon, in person or on TV, it has been a 1 line wonder. The size is fine, the shape and likely the banking, material, etc, etc. are where the problems are. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, sugarray said: No The track work carried out by Glyn Taylor has reportedly been done in consultation with Matt and Chris Holder. Chris is reported to be very pleased with it. Seeing it first hand before the snow and ice arrived, it looked smooth and pristine with a tad more banking?! Edited March 2, 2018 by Skidder1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 Have a look at Belle Vue on Google Maps starman and compare it to Swindon and Berwick and almost any other big track apart from Peterborough, it's much rounder and has bends which are far longer and more sweeping. It really doesn't need shortening. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 37 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Have a look at Belle Vue on Google Maps starman and compare it to Swindon and Berwick and almost any other big track apart from Peterborough, it's much rounder and has bends which are far longer and more sweeping. It really doesn't need shortening. Ive seen all three tracks on TV mate, but im sure there will be some on here who will want to make a song and Dance about my posts without even reading them. But you get them everywhere you go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Stoke Potter said: There is no comparison between Swindon and Belle Vue! Whenever I have seen Swindon, in person or on TV, it has been a 1 line wonder. The size is fine, the shape and likely the banking, material, etc, etc. are where the problems are. Thank you for you input, i wont lose any sleep over it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSL84 Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 Mike let me tell you one thing there is NOT a track in this country can get hold of red shale anymore. Ever track last season had struggles after breedoen stopped makeing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 1 hour ago, geoff58 said: hmm wonder which stadium/track as just been awarded FIM NATIONS CUP ?? say no more the finest stadium/track in the country i rest my case lol Errrr.... It has been awarded a leg, not the final, and the lineup is crap. Won’t be many bothering with it to be honest. If you want to see a real lineup come to Poole’s 70th aniversary meeting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Trackerman48 said: Mike let me tell you one thing there is NOT a track in this country can get hold of red shale anymore. Ever track last season had struggles after breedoen stopped makeing it. Well we have some so i think we had better use it sparringly. Nothing else gets near it. thats a shame. Edited March 2, 2018 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntFaceMan Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 11 hours ago, Trackerman48 said: Mike let me tell you one thing there is NOT a track in this country can get hold of red shale anymore. Ever track last season had struggles after breedoen stopped makeing it. Why don't they truck it in from Europe? Road freight isn't that expensive compared to the reward, especially if you get multiple clubs in on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BobC Posted March 3, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 I managed to to get to the NSS 3 times last season. Meeting 1 was v Swindon in the KO Cup Semi Final. Fabulous meeting that had everything in atrocious conditions. Great racing.Anywhere else, I am convinced it would have been rained off. Meeting 2 was the following night, Colts v Eastbourne. After the night before I wasnt expecting anything special at all. Incredibly, it was again superb entertainment. Track was superbly prepared, passing in almost every race . Inside, outside, through the middle, the young lads could race confidently anywhere at any time,despite the changeable weather. Meeting 3 was a about a month later as the Colts won the NL title v Eastbourne. Once again tremendous racing. An absolute credit to NL racing.The NSS has a superb circuit. I managed to get to Poole 7 times last season. Well, to be honest, I think I saw more full blooded racing in any ONE of those NSS meetings than I saw in any at Poole. Riders were literally bouncing across the track and you could clearly see hestistation. Dont get me wrong, I am Poole through and through and have been since 1955.That wont change. I welcome the track being ripped up and hopefully will produce some better and safer racing. Only time will tell. Fingers crossed, eh? 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoombdog Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 20 hours ago, Stoke Potter said: There is no comparison between Swindon and Belle Vue! Whenever I have seen Swindon, in person or on TV, it has been a 1 line wonder. The size is fine, the shape and likely the banking, material, etc, etc. are where the problems are. Im a Swindon fan who goes every week and the racing has been poo most weeks for the last few years. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 Speaking as an outsider I've been to Poole and Swindon many times and always enjoy my visits but there's no way you can compare the racing to the NSS . Or Somerset and Scunny which are my top 3 tracks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 1 hour ago, thecoombdog said: Im a Swindon fan who goes every week and the racing has been poo most weeks for the last few years. Cant remember the last time the track was prepared brilliantly at the Abbey, Nick Morris for me is the one rider who has entertained us the most at the Abbey in the last few years.He is a racer and has come from the back alot,for me the second bend at the Abbey is very hairy even the brilliant Darcy got sucked into that air fence there.So you are right Coombdog we have seen quite alot of average racing in recent years with the isolated good race chucked in to, hope it is better this year.Dont know what you think it would be great if the young Anders Rowe could get some laps in before the meeting and in the interval as well as that would be beneficial for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 2 hours ago, BobC said: I managed to to get to the NSS 3 times last season. Meeting 1 was v Swindon in the KO Cup Semi Final. Fabulous meeting that had everything in atrocious conditions. Great racing.Anywhere else, I am convinced it would have been rained off. Meeting 2 was the following night, Colts v Eastbourne. After the night before I wasnt expecting anything special at all. Incredibly, it was again superb entertainment. Track was superbly prepared, passing in almost every race . Inside, outside, through the middle, the young lads could race confidently anywhere at any time,despite the changeable weather. Meeting 3 was a about a month later as the Colts won the NL title v Eastbourne. Once again tremendous racing. An absolute credit to NL racing.The NSS has a superb circuit. I managed to get to Poole 7 times last season. Well, to be honest, I think I saw more full blooded racing in any ONE of those NSS meetings than I saw in any at Poole. Riders were literally bouncing across the track and you could clearly see hestistation. Dont get me wrong, I am Poole through and through and have been since 1955.That wont change. I welcome the track being ripped up and hopefully will produce some better and safer racing. Only time will tell. Fingers crossed, eh? Great post from a true honest Poole fan. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, BobC said: I managed to to get to the NSS 3 times last season. Meeting 1 was v Swindon in the KO Cup Semi Final. Fabulous meeting that had everything in atrocious conditions. Great racing.Anywhere else, I am convinced it would have been rained off. Meeting 2 was the following night, Colts v Eastbourne. After the night before I wasnt expecting anything special at all. Incredibly, it was again superb entertainment. Track was superbly prepared, passing in almost every race . Inside, outside, through the middle, the young lads could race confidently anywhere at any time,despite the changeable weather. Meeting 3 was a about a month later as the Colts won the NL title v Eastbourne. Once again tremendous racing. An absolute credit to NL racing.The NSS has a superb circuit. I managed to get to Poole 7 times last season. Well, to be honest, I think I saw more full blooded racing in any ONE of those NSS meetings than I saw in any at Poole. Riders were literally bouncing across the track and you could clearly see hestistation. Dont get me wrong, I am Poole through and through and have been since 1955.That wont change. I welcome the track being ripped up and hopefully will produce some better and safer racing. Only time will tell. Fingers crossed, eh? Yep i agree Bob, the make over should help, but the period between bends 1-2 being completely re-laid and practice for me is a concern, its barely 3 weeks and imo know where near enough time for it to bed in properly. The 3-4th bends had far to much dirt on it last year, you dont need it, that now looks fine, the straights could be cambered better but they are ok. Its all about the prep Bob, if the boys put the four wheel blade round EVERY week before prep then you can do what you like with it, and it keeps it smooth and level. But your next problem is shale, if its true that Breeden have stopped making Red shale then you need something very simular with not to much clay content in it... you can add it with bags of dust clay, but you cannot take it off... To much clay content is not good... Edited March 3, 2018 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, BurntFaceMan said: Why don't they truck it in from Europe? Road freight isn't that expensive compared to the reward, especially if you get multiple clubs in on it. Mate, if it is the case that Breeden have stopped making Red shale then clubs have two choices, either get something very simular with not to much clay content or if you want it brought in clubs will have to start tapping up sponsors maybe 3-4 to help financilly. Edited March 3, 2018 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoombdog Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 7 hours ago, Sidney the robin said: Cant remember the last time the track was prepared brilliantly at the Abbey, Nick Morris for me is the one rider who has entertained us the most at the Abbey in the last few years.He is a racer and has come from the back alot,for me the second bend at the Abbey is very hairy even the brilliant Darcy got sucked into that air fence there.So you are right Coombdog we have seen quite alot of average racing in recent years with the isolated good race chucked in to, hope it is better this year.Dont know what you think it would be great if the young Anders Rowe could get some laps in before the meeting and in the interval as well as that would be beneficial for him Yeah totally agree about Morris. Very entertaining as can pass up inside and outside. But as you say its rare to see anyone like that these days. Looking forward to young Anders ride for us very soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoke Potter Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 13 hours ago, thecoombdog said: Im a Swindon fan who goes every week and the racing has been poo most weeks for the last few years. An honest appraisal. Perhaps you should tell Starman, Orlov and Brum as they don't seem to believe it. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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