Sidney the robin Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 25 minutes ago, BurntFaceMan said: No he shouldn't. It doesn't matter if he was exciting. Putting together a team that will win is first priority. Winning is not a priority entertainment comes first if you have not got a crowd then you haven't got a club end of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Winning is not a priority entertainment comes first if you have not got a crowd then you haven't got a club end of. It isn't very entertaining being beaten every week! Crowds tend to dwindle when your not winning. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterPlinge Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 11 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: God i wish Swindon could sign him I bet 95 per cent of Belle Vue fans would to have you been on the Brandy ??? That sentence makes no sense. I presume you're trying to say you've been drinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, WalterPlinge said: That sentence makes no sense. I presume you're trying to say you've been drinking? With punctuation in the correct places and spelling corrected I think it would make sense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, WalterPlinge said: That sentence makes no sense. I presume you're trying to say you've been drinking? Pretty simple really Belle Vue have one spot to fill and i would predict most Belle Vue fans would be very happy with Shanes Edited January 18, 2018 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, foreverblue said: It isn't very entertaining being beaten every week! Crowds tend to dwindle when your not winning. That really surprises me forever, is it that important to you that you win everyweek?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterPlinge Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 minute ago, foreverblue said: With punctuation in the correct places and spelling corrected I think it would make sense! I don't share your confidence. 1 minute ago, Sidney the robin said: Pretty simple really Belle Vue have one spot to fill and I would predict most Belle Vue fans would be very happy with Shanes Well, Belle Vue have no spots left to fill, but even if they kicked out one of their reserves for Shanes, they'd be something like 2 points under the limit, which would be stupid. If they needed a 2 point-ish reserve, there's one already at their disposal in Jack Smith. (And geographically much better placed). However they aren't in need of a 2 point-ish reserve as I've already said above. If you're a Swindon fan why aren't you campaigning to fit Shanes in by kicking out a Swindon rider instead of kicking out a Belle Vue rider? Swindon would be more local for Shanes and you'd be able to see him too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Swindon fans seem more concerned about the Poole team than most Poole fans, maybe their team is boring?? If not, then why are they soooo interested? Also maybe James would rather ride for Poole than BV?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 54 minutes ago, ray c said: Most exciting rider at poole last season should have been the first name in the 1- 7 Glad you’re not in charge of team building! I should imagine nearly all Poole fans would like him in the team. However, if the Poles don’t back down and Sundstrom isn’t allowed to ride, Matt Ford might well have two 5bpiinters lined up instead. So we end up with a lesser rider in the 1-5 but an extremely strong reserve pairing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 26 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Winning is not a priority entertainment comes first if you have not got a crowd then you haven't got a club end of. Winning is number one priority. Full stop. A winning team will bring in a crowd. Losing every week 44-46 might be entertaining for a few but the crowds soon vanish. That goes for all clubs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Swindon fans seem more concerned about the Poole team than most Poole fans, maybe their team is boring?? If not, then why are they soooo interested? Also maybe James would rather ride for Poole than BV?? They are clearly running scared. If Sundstrom and Shanes are the final two, Poole will have a powerhouse team which would be stronger than any completed team so far. Comparing Swindons team, which if I am honest looks a bit flat and lacklustre, to Pooles is like comparing a two day open bottle of Lambrusco with a couple of extinguished fags floating on top, (Swindon) to a chilled bottle of Krug. (Poole) Edited January 18, 2018 by Steve Shovlar 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 13 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Swindon fans seem more concerned about the Poole team than most Poole fans, maybe their team is boring?? If not, then why are they soooo interested? Also maybe James would rather ride for Poole than BV?? Can you blame him wanting to wait as long as possible for Poole ?? He lives 18 miles up the road and a max 30 min drive on a normal day. He has a chance to mix it up with some of the best young riders around and can learn plenty from the likes of Kurtz/Woryna as well more experienced riders in the team like Holder (hopefully Sundstrom) and Josh G. With his commitment to Sheffield in Champ /Grass Track and Long track, even if Matt was forced to reluctantly release him due to the Poles pig headedness, I am sure he would have no trouble getting fixed up in Prem not long after the season starts when some of the already signed riders/reserves in other teams start performing badly and Promoters/managers start looking at other options. I think James would prefer that to give himself every chance to get into the Poole team rather than have the trek to the likes of BV every week on top of the commuting to Sheffield. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 48 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: That really surprises me forever, is it that important to you that you win everyweek?. Of course winning is important, not saying it is everything. Most people will except the odd loss but if you lose regularly crowds drop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntFaceMan Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sidney the robin said: Winning is not a priority entertainment comes first if you have not got a crowd then you haven't got a club end of. 1 hour ago, Sidney the robin said: You me old mucker you don't know your arse from your elbow.!!!! It's a competitive sport you old codger. People don't pay to watch their team lose. A winning team produces a big crowd, not a losing team who rushed to sign a sub 3 pointer because a few old men found him exciting. I'd like to see James in the squad, but he's certainly not top priority and he's been treated exactly how a risky sub 3 pointer with no experience should be treated. Imagine if you'd spent 10 years finessing your trade just for a potential employer to be more interested in the inexperienced apprentice (because he had better banter on the job and that was a bit more interesting), how would you feel? I think you might want to reevaluate your arse and elbow situation as I'd suggest there is a chance you've mixed the two up. Edited January 18, 2018 by BurntFaceMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntFaceMan Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 It's not about winning every match, but you should aim to win every home match. The home match is where you get your customers and where you take your money. The best teams in the league are the ones that can pull off the away win. The home match is about satisfying the home crowd, and although you need the occasional few losses to make the wins that much sweeter, you still need a team that is winning regularly to put the bums on the seats. Honestly I think some of the "die hards" in this sport live in cloud cuckoo land. This is a competitive sport, driven by money. We can't fund the sport on kisses and cuddles and sweet thoughts. Just because you'll turn up come rain or shine, doesn't mean the vast majority will, and whilst the vast majority are paying the bills it's important they are kept happy. So, to my original point, James Shanes is not the top priority and there is nothing wrong with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) 28 minutes ago, BurntFaceMan said: 28 minutes ago, BurntFaceMan said: It's a competitive sport you old codger. People don't pay to watch their team lose. A winning team produces a big crowd, not a losing team who rushed to sign a sub 3 pointer because a few old men found him exciting. I'd like to see James in the squad, but he's certainly not top priority and he's been treated exactly how a risky sub 3 pointer with no experience should be treated. Imagine if you'd spent 10 years finessing your trade just for a potential employer to be more interested in the inexperienced apprentice (because he had better banter on the job and that was a bit more interesting), how would you feel? I think you might want to reevaluate your arse and elbow situation as I'd suggest there is a chance you've mixed the two up. I am hardly an old codger but who cares , but if winning is everything to you and your club i feel sorry for you.When your club fails ( and by the way you speak you have not been a supporter for long if at all???) alot of people take great delight in you failing and they saviour the moment.Your promoter brings that a win at all costs mentality sod the sport as a whole and manipulates the rulebook for his own needs and he has been a genius at doing it for well over a decade and that will be his legacy. Edited January 18, 2018 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 hour ago, lisa-colette said: Swindon fans seem more concerned about the Poole team than most Poole fans, maybe their team is boring?? If not, then why are they soooo interested? Also maybe James would rather ride for Poole than BV?? Not all of us...not remotely interested! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 53 minutes ago, hagonshocker said: Not all of us...not remotely interested! I mainly meant DC2 and Sidney atm but a lot of Swindon fans have commented on this thread in last few months. I can't remember the last time I went on the Swindon thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 53 minutes ago, hagonshocker said: Not all of us...not remotely interested! Same here, apart from the occasional wind up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 I would have thought Linus would be available on a 6.64 average due to the fact he hasn't raced here since 2012 when he got his 7.22 average. 8% discount should apply same as Mateusz. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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