Reliant Robin Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 19 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Time for GB, Sweden and Denmark to play hardball with Poland. If the PZM do not relax their rule over riders, then the three countries should basically ban their riders from riding in Poland until the issue is resolved. Probably illegal but probably no more illegal than what the Poles are doing. Kind of ironic that Poole pushed for the Mon/Wed race nights which has now led to the Poles not being willing to relax their rule as had originally been agreed with Mon/Thurs race nights. Why would Denmark want to play hardball with Poland when it is the UK who have gone against what was agreed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted January 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Yawn. Either get on and sign Shanes or let another club have him. He shouldn’t be stuck in the middle of this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 The Championship clubs who didn't act in the best interests of speedway as a whole have a lot to answer for. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Reliant Robin said: Kind of ironic that Poole pushed for the Mon/Wed race nights which has now led to the Poles not being willing to relax their rule as had originally been agreed with Mon/Thurs race nights. Why would Denmark want to play hardball with Poland when it is the UK who have gone against what was agreed. Poole didn't 'push for Mondays/Wednesdays' - they only suggested it when 2 of the 3 Championship Thursday tracks threatened to pull out and not to run!!! Tail wagging the dog yet again in British speedway. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 45 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: The Championship clubs who didn't act in the best interests of speedway as a whole have a lot to answer for. It shouldve been - This is the structure - which league (if any) do you wish to run in And I say this as an Ipswich fan. If the revised structure was genuinely to improve the overall future of British Speedway then it should be fit in or ship out. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 11 hours ago, BurntFaceMan said: Matt Ford confirms Poole in advanced talks with Linus Sundstrom. Ford is keen to make the 27-year-old Avesta-born racer his sixth signing for the club's 70th anniversary season, but rules outlined by the Polish Automobile and Motorcycle Association (PZM) dictate that riders in the Polish Ekstraliga can only race in a maximum of three European leagues. Sundstrom currently has two contracts in his homeland and one in Poland, but Ford is hopeful the Swede will take a place in his 2018 septet. Ford said: "Linus is very good friends with our former world champion Tony Rickardsson and he believes, as I do, Poole is the best place for Linus to really push on to the top of the sport in 2018. "He's a very exciting rider and one I have the utmost respect for. He will complement the riders already signed up for this year perfectly, so I hope we will be able to secure his signature in the not-too-distant future." Should he sign for the Volvo Cars Poole Pirates, Sundstrom would use up 7.22 of Ford's team-building points limit and that would open make James Shanes an ideal fit to join Kacper Woryna, Mateusz Szczepaniak, Chris Holder, Josh Grajczonek and Brady Kurtz in the 2018 line-up. ----- PIRATES boss Matt Ford cannot finalise the signing of Linus Sundstrom unless the Polish authorities lift the controversial three-league rule. The Swedish star has agreed terms ahead of a proposed move to Wimborne Road but the switch is being affected by his contracts elsewhere. Sundstrom is set to race for Masarna and Piraterna in his homeland while he also has a deal in place with Gorzow, who compete in the Ekstraliga – Poland's top flight. It was agreed in November that the Polish Automobile and Motorcycle Association would lift the regulation which restricted Ekstraliga riders to racing in two other leagues. However, the PZM is yet to deliver on that promise. Speaking to this newspaper at the start of December, Ford admitted the three-league rule had been holding up his plans. And he and World Cup-winner Sundstrom remain in limbo. Ford told the Daily Echo: "I'm sure everyone is as frustrated as I am that this saga has been going on since the AGM, when I first made contact with Linus. "While I was at the AGM, we were informed by Tony Steele, who was representing the BSPA at an FIM event, that the rule would be lifted or changed to four leagues. "With this in mind, Linus and I entered discussions and while we have agreed terms, sadly we cannot sign anything until the restriction is lifted. "I don't know what the hold-up is. It's very frustrating because we want to finalise things. "I know there are other riders who this has an impact on. It's not for me to reveal other people's teams but I know it is having an effect at King's Lynn. "I can only hope for all of our sakes that the matter is resolved as soon as possible." When Krzysztof Kasprzak suffered a broken collarbone in May last year, Sundstrom contacted Ford to offer his riding services. And although talks were shelved after Sundstrom picked up a contract at Gorzow – coincidentally to replace Kasprzak – Ford remains a big fan of the 27-year-old. He added: "I can remember Linus coming down with Peterborough in 2012 and beating Chris Holder and Darcy Ward at their peak. "At that time, I remember thinking: 'This kid really has got something special'. Now, I am incredibly excited at the thought of bringing him in. "I know Tony Rickardsson has great regard for Linus and he believes him coming to Poole would be a huge step in his development. "If we get Linus on board, we should also have more contact with Tony as well, which is my hope." Should he complete the signing of Sundstrom, who has a 7.22 average, Ford would have 3.51 points left for his final rider. That would almost certainly be Puddletown-based charger James Shanes, who has a 2.88 rating and would take his place at reserve. However, if the Sundstrom deal falls through, Ford is likely to plump for two mid-range riders to complete his septet. Pirates 2018: Brady Kurtz 8.08, Josh Grajczonek 7.34, Chris Holder 7.16, Kacper Woryna 4.65, Mateusz Szczepaniak 4.54. Finally!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) https://speedwayekstraliga.pl/spolka-ekstraliga/regulaminy/ This is a link to the Polish Extraleague Riders 2018 Professional Speedway Contract, duly translated by Google. Although open to misunderstanding, to me Clause 7.4 makes provision for a rider to race in a 4th league!!!? Edited January 18, 2018 by Skidder1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntFaceMan Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 25 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: https://speedwayekstraliga.pl/spolka-ekstraliga/regulaminy/ This is a link to the Polish Extraleague Riders 2018 Professional Speedway Contract, duly translated by Google. Although open to misunderstanding, to me Clause 7.4 makes provision for a rider to race in a 4th league!!!? There is a space in the rider contract to add a 4th league, so that's very promising! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 47 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: https://speedwayekstraliga.pl/spolka-ekstraliga/regulaminy/ This is a link to the Polish Extraleague Riders 2018 Professional Speedway Contract, duly translated by Google. Although open to misunderstanding, to me Clause 7.4 makes provision for a rider to race in a 4th league!!!? 21 minutes ago, BurntFaceMan said: There is a space in the rider contract to add a 4th league, so that's very promising! Not sure if this is to cover Polish riders that are squad members to ride for a sister club in a lower division. If that is the case It may also cover Linus riding in two leagues in Sweden under the same federation but not sure. Would have thought Linus would be better dropping the second league in Sweden to secure the three better options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 and at the end of the day the only loser could be james and that would be a disgrace 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, ray c said: and at the end of the day the only loser could be james and that would be a disgrace That's why Belle Vue should sign him right away , how can Shanes get properly organised to be honest he has been treated very poorly Belle Vue would suit him down to the ground. Edited January 18, 2018 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterPlinge Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: That's why Belle Vue should sign him right away , how can Shanes get properly organised to be honest he has been treated very poorly Belle Vue would suit him down to the ground. Why are you trying to palm him off on Belle Vue? If you're so bothered about him, why not take him to Swindon, which would suit him better geographically? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shifty Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 I would love to have Shanes at Belle Vue ... any day. Him and Dan Bewley would a great reserve pairing - imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, WalterPlinge said: Why are you trying to palm him off on Belle Vue? If you're so bothered about him, why not take him to Swindon, which would suit him better geographically? If nobody snaps him up, then there's a pretty good chance they will once the new averages come out, if they can fit him in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntFaceMan Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 20 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: That's why Belle Vue should sign him right away , how can Shanes get properly organised to be honest he has been treated very poorly Belle Vue would suit him down to the ground. How on earth has he been treated really poorly? We don't just sign people at random. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, BurntFaceMan said: How on earth has he been treated really poorly? We don't just sign people at random. Most exciting rider at poole last season should have been the first name in the 1- 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntFaceMan Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Just now, ray c said: Most exciting rider at poole last season should have been the first name in the 1- 7 No he shouldn't. It doesn't matter if he was exciting. Putting together a team that will win is first priority. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 20 minutes ago, BurntFaceMan said: No he shouldn't. It doesn't matter if he was exciting. Putting together a team that will win is first priority. My opinion your opinion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 40 minutes ago, WalterPlinge said: Why are you trying to palm him off on Belle Vue? If you're so bothered about him, why not take him to Swindon, which would suit him better geographically? God i wish Swindon could sign him I bet 95 per cent of Belle Vue fans would to have you been on the Brandy ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) 36 minutes ago, BurntFaceMan said: How on earth has he been treated really poorly? We don't just sign people at random. You me old mucker you don't know your arse from your elbow.!!!! Edited January 18, 2018 by Sidney the robin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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