Poole 2018

[Paddy The Rebel]

All this petty schoolkid behaviour our rider is better than yours,as someone said previously it's quite obvious that both have improved alot in the last 2 seasons which is good to see and in this league there's no reason both cant hold there averages atleast.

I must say I was impressed with Morris 1 of the better riders to visit wimborne road. 

[BWitcher]

4 hours ago, Pinny said:

Well he topped the league averages so though dominant may not quite be right, Morris was still the best part of a point below him and Doyle took the pressure off him. 

Now he is the teams star number one, theres question marks over whether he can go out and win the big heat 13 and 15’s. 

hopefully he does, always been a fan of him.

Or you could say, that despite riding with such a dominant partner in two races, he still comfortably averaged more than Kurtz.

No difference between 5 & 1 in terms of the opposition.

[stevebrum]

1 hour ago, hrhbig said:

We will ignore Kings Lynn's number one

Assumed Iversen.

1 hour ago, ray c said:

no different time different era we shall never know

We do know.  Ivan won 6 world titles when the opposition were probably stronger. 

Ivan was totally professional throughout his career. 

Darcy was indeed naturally gifted but lacked the professionalism.

[Pinny]

2 hours ago, BWitcher said:

Or you could say, that despite riding with such a dominant partner in two races, he still comfortably averaged more than Kurtz.

No difference between 5 & 1 in terms of the opposition.

There is a hell of a difference riding as your teams number one, expected to go all out winning races and leading from the front, to being a teams second heatleader. Far less pressure to produce wins. 

Also , he rides with a reserve in his first three programmed rides where as number ones are paired with a second string in their first three . More chance of a second string coming in ahead of a number one than a reserve coming in ahead of their number 5 partner. 

As said , we will have to see this season how they go. Fully fit over a full season, with the rate hes improving, I would fancy Kurtz to end the season with a higher average than Morris.

Edited January 15, 2018 by Pinny

[Sidney the robin]

2 hours ago, Pinny said:

 

 

2 hours ago, Pinny said:

There is a hell of a difference riding as your teams number one, expected to go all out winning races and leading from the front, to being a teams second heatleader. Far less pressure to produce wins. 

Also , he rides with a reserve in his first three programmed rides where as number ones are paired with a second string in their first three . More chance of a second string coming in ahead of a number one than a reserve coming in ahead of their number 5 partner. 

As said , we will have to see this season how they go. Fully fit over a full season, with the rate hes improving, I would fancy Kurtz to end the season with a higher average than Morris.

With Doyle out of the way i expect Morris to kick on again he is more consistent than Kurtz and the league is weaker this year.At home i expect Morris to really excell double figures plus every week that is how good he is at the Abbey.

Edited January 15, 2018 by Sidney the robin

[ray c]

8 hours ago, Jason.C said:

I thought you were joking until I saw for myself! £80 is ridiculous, I can't see them putting many bums on seats by charging that much. 

just a corporate event for business and sponsors i reckon

[Steve Shovlar]

We are talking a Gala event with dress code to celebrate 70 years of Poole speedway. £80 ahead is not expensive for fine dining and a decent menu.  We are not talking about chicken in a basket. £80 a head would be without wine and what you would pay for three courses at a decent restaurant. There's probably entertainment in the price as well. 

Edited January 15, 2018 by Steve Shovlar

[Baldyman]

I love coming on here to cheer myself up....it makes me realise that speedway fans must have some of the cleanest windows of any sports fans.

[allthegearbutnaeidea]

Nick Morris>Brady Kurtz Just look at Nick’s CV probably the best British speedway CV of any rider under 30 never mind the fact he’s only 23, he’s won everything already, watch him go, the man is a genius on a bike.

[tellboy]

7 hours ago, Pinny said:

There is a hell of a difference riding as your teams number one, expected to go all out winning races and leading from the front, to being a teams second heatleader. Far less pressure to produce wins. 

Also , he rides with a reserve in his first three programmed rides where as number ones are paired with a second string in their first three . More chance of a second string coming in ahead of a number one than a reserve coming in ahead of their number 5 partner. 

As said , we will have to see this season how they go. Fully fit over a full season, with the rate hes improving, I would fancy Kurtz to end the season with a higher average than Morris.

So you would think Kurtz would have gained more bonus points than Morris to keep his average down.Last season Kurtz got 11BP whilst Morris got a staggering 28BP.

 

[theblueboy]

1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said:

We are talking a Gala event with dress code to celebrate 70 years of Poole speedway. £80 ahead is not expensive for fine dining and a decent menu.  We are not talking about chicken in a basket. £80 a head would be without wine and what you would pay for three courses at a decent restaurant. There's probably entertainment in the price as well. 

KK: Wimbourne Road. I love it. A selection of KK’s heats from the 2016-17.

That should give you something to smile about after picking your jaw up off the floor from spending 80 sheets...

Surely, at that price, the whine would be free?

[Gavan]

I find this incredible that some Poole fans can be that daft not to see facts!

2017 Brady Kurtz was not as good as Nick Morris in the top flight. There is no discussion on this its fact

2018 Brady Kurtz has the potential to be as good if not better than Morris is over here.

You cant compare what they do abroad unless your Steve Shovlar who is saying Brady is better in Poland but yet thinks it doesnt matter that Tungate beat Kurtz in the Aussie champs!

If your team building you may well have Kurtz as his average is nearly a point lower and his will go up you would think and Morris may stay the same.

I agree Brady may go on to better things than Morris but at the moment IN THE UK Morris is simply better than Kurtz.......you cant argue that.

Edited January 15, 2018 by Gavan

[BurntFaceMan]

So what do we get for £80 a head? Does it include the menu or will that be £4 on the door?

Honestly £80 a head is very expensive. It would have to be pretty fine dining to justify that price and I think I'd much rather a burger and chips if I'm honest. Not sure what kind of entertainment Poole could be putting on but I'm more than a little sceptical. I'll crack up if it's a disco. Anywho, with Matt Ford assuring us that these will sell out fast then I suppose it's got to be good value, right? 

And at only £750 to sit with a random rider from the 2018 team... bargain! 

Might give this one a miss.

[SteveLyric2]

As its the 70th Anniversary Dinner then I suppose £70 per head would be more apt - but lets not forget all the costs of the riders and guests the like of Tony Rickardsson and Mark Loram etc have to be covered. The function room at AFC Bournemouth only has a maximum Dinner capacity of 250, so as the announcement says - it won't take long to sell out. I guess the knack of ensuring your attendance is to know one of the clubs many sponsors!!?

Its a shame I'm out of the country that week and will miss both the meeting on 23rd and the Dinner, otherwise my £80 would have been in the post today!!

Edited January 15, 2018 by Skidder1

[Terry]

2 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

We are talking a Gala event with dress code to celebrate 70 years of Poole speedway. £80 ahead is not expensive for fine dining and a decent menu.  We are not talking about chicken in a basket. £80 a head would be without wine and what you would pay for three courses at a decent restaurant. There's probably entertainment in the price as well.

Ford on the banjo and Middlo playing the spoons.

1 hour ago, Baldyman said:

I love coming on here to cheer myself up....it makes me realise that speedway fans must have some of the cleanest windows of any sports fans.

Agree, the Poole thread is entertainment personified. It always attracts the weird, the whacky and the wallybrains.

[Arthur54]

41 minutes ago, Gavan said:

I find this incredible that some Poole fans can be that daft not to see facts!

2017 Brady Kurtz was not as good as Nick Morris in the top flight. There is no discussion on this its fact

2018 Brady Kurtz has the potential to be as good if not better than Morris is over here.

You cant compare what they do abroad unless your Steve Shovlar who is saying Brady is better in Poland but yet thinks it doesnt matter that Tungate beat Kurtz in the Aussie champs!

If your team building you may well have Kurtz as his average is nearly a point lower and his will go up you would think and Morris may stay the same.

I agree Brady may go on to better things than Morris but at the moment IN THE UK Morris is simply better than Kurtz.......you cant argue that.

Who cares who's better, last season has gone, move on, Morris at Swindon Kurtz at Poole, lets judge them on this season

[Sherborne Green]

I find it very comical about this rider is better than that rider. He will score more than him. Whoever owns a team selects the riders they want, subject of course to the riders agreement.

it is immaterial what any of us think. There are several reasons why a rider is selected. Can he improve his average, how does he ride his home track, how does he get on with his team mates etc. Sometimes, the owner gets it wrong and will try and make changes.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. It is no good anyone saying I am defiantly correct as I have never met such a person.

Poole will build a team that Matt Ford thinks will bring the people through the gate. He has done quite well over the years but has got it wrong at times.

Speedway is a business like any other and with so many demands on our money it must be a good evenings entertainment for us to put our hands into our pockets.

Good luck to all teams this season but remember races are won and lost on the track not on computer keyboards.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BluPanther]

10 minutes ago, Skidder1 said:

As its the 70th Anniversary Dinner then I suppose £70 per head would be more apt - but lets not forget all the costs of the riders and guests the like of Tony Rickardsson and Mark Loram etc have to be covered. The function room at AFC Bournemouth only has a maximum Dinner capacity of 250, so as the announcement says - it won't take long to sell out. I guess the knack of ensuring your attendance is to know one of the clubs many sponsors!!?

Its a shame I'm out of the country that week and will miss both the meeting on 23rd and the Dinner, otherwise my £80 would have been in the post today!!

Its cheaper to fly out of the country than attend this dinner, wise choice chap 

[SteveLyric2]

Just now, blupanther said:

Its cheaper to fly out of the country than attend this dinner, wise choice chap 

What I'm paying to be out of the country that week would more than pay for a whole table plus champagne!!!!!

[Sidney the robin]

The Kurtz v Morris debate is very interesting just looked up some stats Morris rode with the World Champion 39 times in the season Doyle won 22/17 just shows you Morris had the tougher campaign both are very talented along with Fricke and J.Holder.

Edited January 15, 2018 by Sidney the robin